That’s A Wrap: Tim Priller

  • 04/03/2018 11:19 am in

Welcome to “That’s A Wrap,” our player-by-player recap of the 2017-2018 Indiana Hoosiers. Today: Tim Priller.

Priller (4 games): 0.3 points, 0.5 rebounds, 50 FT% in 1 minute per game.

An Indiana fan favorite from almost the first moment he stepped out on the Assembly Hall floor, Tim Priller’s Hoosier career is now in the books.

In April of 2014, Tom Crean took a chance on Priller, a two-star forward. The list of other schools interested in Priller’s services was far from spectacular – Incarnate Word, University of Illinois Chicago and Old Dominion – but Crean saw something in the lanky Texan and offered him a scholarship.

Priller played sparingly in his three years under Crean, logging 67 total minutes over 31 games. Other than a rare opportunity here or there when several of Indiana’s bigs were in foul trouble, Priller only saw minutes in garbage time. His career-high in minutes played came in his first game when he saw nine minutes of action in a blowout victory over Mississippi Valley State.

When Archie Miller took over the program, “Priller Time” decreased further. With Indiana facing a tougher out of conference schedule that left them on the winning side of fewer blowouts, Priller recorded career-lows in games (4), minutes (4) and points (1). Priller’s lone point scored in his senior year came as a result of a free throw in the final minute of a rout over Minnesota.

Bottom line: Priller’s role primarily came in practice, where he challenged his teammates in scrimmages. In the fleeting moments where he did see playing time, fans had their eyes transfixed on the court as they anticipated his every move. Even when it was something as small as setting a screen in the final minute of a 20-point game, fans would cheer as if he dunked over a 7-footer.

Quotable: “My freshman year I went in at the end of the game and hit a three, but it was a little long and hit the backboard, but went in though. I got a steal and after that, I was trending on Twitter and ever since then, it’s just been a thing, I guess. I don’t know.” Priller, on Inside IU Basketball in February, on how he earned his cult-like status

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  • ImYourHuckleberry

    For the same reason others feel he belonged. I stated my case. It’s getting late. I don’t feel like getting into this right now. Especially with you. You should have tuned in earlier. 🙂

  • Arch Puddington

    Worth pointing out that Archie ran Gelon off almost immediately, but allowed Priller to stay. Granted, Priller was only a one year “issue”, whereas Gelon was going to occupy a scholarship for three more years, but the politics of it all — essentially cutting an Indiana player just as he was attempting to rebuild the Indiana recruiting base — suggest to me that Archie is more than willing to cut ties with players he doesn’t think can contribute, even if it isn’t popular. He saw something in Priller, even if just a bigger body to practice against.

    And while it is easy enough to argue that he really wasn’t up to high D1 standards, in order to classify his scholarship as a “waste”, you’d have to argue that we lost somebody enough better to have meaningfully changed our results over the last four years. That would be difficult to do, and not just because it would be a counterfactual. We have missed the tournament the last two years, and the year before that we won the B1G. It is nearly impossible to imagine any players we could have even theoretically picked up who would have been so good as to get us into the tournament the last two years, or to have improved on the team that won the regular season title. I don’t mean there are no players at all who would have helped, just that none of the players we might reasonably imagine having gotten if an extra scholarship had been available would have made a real difference. Our problems have been with our best players, not our worst ones, and I can’t think of a situation in which somebody good enough to make difference WOULD have come here, but didn’t because there wasn’t a scholarship available.

  • Guyton25

    Have you guys been talking about Ryan Taylor? I haven’t checked on here in awhile and I don’t see an article about him on ITH. I’d love for us to pick him up. He’s a Missouri Valley star and would add some much needed talent and experience to our backcourt next season. I probably won’t check back on here for awhile because I’m busy. I just wanted to add that to the pool of discussion on here for you guys. The majority of you probably know about it already though.

    Going to miss having TP around!

  • coachv

    oh synapse! my neurons are not firing. probably because i’m chasing around after vomiting children who are not sick, just sick of eating. outside the door, i took four more. what a drag it is getting old

  • coachv

    but that value, if only off court, does not merit a scholarship

  • Ivan Renko

    4 fouls in 5 min last year against Purdue for a reference point

  • coachv

    not arguing hard, just shootin’ the breeze. who do you expect me to have stimulating conversations with, my wife? bawahahahaha

  • coachv

    lol. i’m a night owl. let’s dance

  • coachv

    true. you can’t even get everyone to agree the earth is round anymore

  • coachv

    he doesn’t even look like shaggy anymore

  • inLinE6

    There’s a lot of competition for his service, just so you know.

  • inLinE6

    I guess that means the value is not enough to be on scholarship. Good for walk-on though.

  • Ivan Renko

    Can you name a single D1 team that has all 13 scholarship players earn game minutes?

  • coachv

    if priller was a junior or younger, he would be as gone as the wild goose in winter. you can bank that. let’s flip your question around. you think the priller scholarship wasn’t wasted because there wasn’t a single player in the whole wide world in the last 4 years that was willing to play for indiana that is better than priller?

  • coachv

    because coaches are publicly going to say nice things about their walk-ons

  • coachv

    oh no! what are we going to do with priller on the bench in foul trouble in one out of 140 games he was eligible to play?

  • inLinE6

    Of course not. But that doesn’t mean your scholarship bench players have to be at or below walk-on level. It’s not because we are deep in the post. We constantly had to play someone shorter than 6’7 at post but he’s still not seeing the floor. Someone mentioned even Stan Robinson played 5 at one point. Would something like this ever happen at Kansas or Duke? Or any power conference team? Do we have to significantly lower our bar to make sense of his 4-year scholarship? As I said before, nothing against Tim, but he doesn’t qualify as scholarship player at Indiana, by any standard. It’s a reality.

  • coachv

    see?

  • Ivan Renko

    See arch’s comment above about Gelon. And I also point you towards the handful of kids Crean pushed out. Didn’t happen to Priller the Thriller

  • Ivan Renko

    Give me a break. Dipo and OG certainly didn’t have scholarship offers from major programs. Were they not worthy of an IU offer?

  • coachv

    no one one is arguing he wasn’t a nice, hard working guy. let’s try it this way. would you be willing to have eight scholarship players like priller, who were even nicer, cheered for their teammates even harder, volunteered in the community tirelessly? if not eight, what’s the maximum number of priller-like players you want on the indiana roster? it seems to me that if you didn’t want all eight of those players you would be hypocritical

  • coachv

    as i pointed out somewhere else in this thread, if priller was younger he would have been gone. miller did not need his scholarship

  • coachv

    i guess i missed the thrills when he played, save purdue

  • coachv

    can you name a 4 year scholarship player who never played in a top tier program?

  • coachv

    AHA! so you admit it!

  • coachv

    heheehe. either you are getting funnier or i am getting drinkier. don’t fall off the edge like i have

  • inLinE6

    OG’s final 4 school included Georgia, Indiana, Ole Miss and Iowa. Oladipo’s offers included Maryland, Notre Dame, Xavier, Missou and Pitt. Do you expect them to be NBA superstars based on this offer list? Probably not. But they certainly worthy of an IU offer. At worst they can be a rotational player. If you’re not arguing based on facts, then I guess I’m wasting time here.

  • coachv

    all season i hoped miller would put priller in for meaningful minutes. maybe he would show something he obviously did not show coach in practice. just always wanted to see it for myself. alas, we’ll always have purdue

  • Ivan Renko

    Sorry, not exactly sure. I sort of addressed this above. My point was moreso that Dipo and OG were unheralded 3 star recruits

  • inLinE6

    Slighting a good kid? Excuse me??? I made it clear from the very beginning (see my other posts) that he took the offer and did his best. And I liked his efforts and everything off the court. With that out of the way, I have to be fair when making assessment on a player’s basketball skills and contributions to a major college program. From that perspective, he did not meet the expectations. I also made clear that it’s not his fault, but the coaching staff’s. What’s wrong with that?

  • Ivan Renko

    Haha good night to you as well. Unfortunately I have to take the train up to Greenwich CT for work tomorrow. Anxious for another NYC spring to arrive though!

  • inLinE6

    You consider my fair comments (admittedly mildly negative) to be a damage. Ok then. Good night.

  • Ivan Renko

    Not sure how that’s relevant. I was trying to provide evidence of Priller’s value in practice since you implicitly questioned it.

  • Ivan Renko

    I’m arguing off the cuff as I get ready to go to sleep because you’re slighting a good kid who represented the IU program well. True fans don’t do that.

    I admit I don’t have the exact scholarship info in front of me, but it’s not a secret Dipo and OG were unheralded 3 stars. i was simply making a point that it’s ridulous to think that if a player can’t get a scholly to “Duke or Kansas” they shouldn’t get one to IU.

  • Ivan Renko

    What’s wrong is Tim is collateral damage to your tirade whether you like it or not. He’s a great kid and now has a degree from an excellent university. A new sheriff is in town and is going to run the program the way it ought to be run. Let it go.

    I’m signing off for the night. Feel free to get the last word in. Goodnight

  • PalmettoHoosier

    Thanks TP and good luck! I’ll sure miss all the spirited discussion of your scholarship worthiness on ISTH. Maybe those of you still butt hurt abt it can find a Georgia site to continue your discussion. Tim, me and IU men’s basketball have moved on!

  • Ivan Renko

    there’s a rumor going around that the Valpo coach had inside info that Ryan Taylor to IU was a done deal. not sure if there’s any credibility behind it, as it’s a rumor. but any help in the backcourt would be very welcome IMO

  • Lance76

    I read an article (sorry don’t know which one) that Taylor approached Archie. Team Ryan Taylor with Romeo Langford and it will be pick your poison from three. I hope we get both and retain Morgan. That would be a dangerous team by season end.

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    say what you want about TP but i’ll bet his ‘that’s a wrap’ gets more comments than any of the others!

  • Ole Man

    Pot meet kettle.

  • Ole Man

    Hogwash on the “you can bank that.”
    Strictly your opinion.

  • Ole Man

    Totally your opinion.
    It’s not a reality at all.

  • Ole Man

    What makes you the authority to declare that?
    I say that it does merit a scholarship.

  • Ole Man

    What was the value of that scholarship spot (not monetarily).
    Seriously, if the coaches thought he was contributing basketball-wise then I accept their decision over your “ESPN-wannabe” opinion.
    You can say all your want to that it “wasn’t his fault”, but then you keep on dissing him.

  • Ole Man

    NO, as is obvious from posters here and from the coaches he played for, everyone does not agree.

  • Ole Man

    Now that’s funny. LOL!
    Hopefully a joke, though.

  • inLinE6

    We played multiple walk-ons ahead of TP, at his position, notably McRoberts and Burton. Those guys made significantly more on-court contributions without scholarship. I wasn’t dissing TP at all, just stating the facts (or as you put it, my “opinion”) that he did not qualify or meet the expectations as a scholarship player at IU. I liked his personalities, his efforts in practice and in classroom, and off-the-court in general. But those attributes alone do not justify athletic scholarships. I also made it clear it “wasn’t his fault”, because it was a coach decision. However that decision didn’t help the team, or even promote a fair environment.

  • coachv

    i noticed that, too. probably didn’t put the work in. perhaps that’s why ne never saw the floor. definitely not an athlete

  • ImYourHuckleberry

    We are all just a bunch of hypocrites

  • coachv

    you know you’re in indiana when folks start throwing” hogwash” around. lol