News and notes from Archie Miller’s radio show

  • 02/23/2018 8:23 am in

Inside IU basketball with Archie Miller was live on Thursday evening at the Holiday Inn in Bloomington for the final time this season. Miller was out recruiting and joined the show briefly via phone, while assistant Bruiser Flint sat with host Don Fischer. Tim Priller was the player guest in the show’s final segment.

Below are news and notes from Flint, Miller and Priller:

· Flint, after Fischer said he had some really good teams while coaching at Drexel: “Not bad. Not good enough to keep my job…We had some good times at Drexel though and made some really good friends.”

· Flint said he spent the year after being let go from Drexel trying to figure out his future. He did some television and radio work, and also went around the country sitting in on around 25 professional and collegiate practices. After that, he decided he wanted to get back into coaching.

· Miller, on Robert Johnson: “(Since my) first day on the job, he hasn’t changed one bit. He’s been all in (done) everything we’ve ever asked. Above and beyond in terms of coachability. He’s turned into a really good leader although a little quiet…Some of our best moments, he’s been a part of…He gave us a chance to be pretty successful in our first year, especially down the stretch.”

· Flint said the Big Ten has the toughest road environments in the country.

· Flint recruited Miller when he was in high school and has known the family for a long time. Near the end of last season, Sean Miller asked Flint if he’d consider joining Archie’s staff. Flint and Archie Miller met during the Final Four to discuss the possibility and Flint later became an assistant.

· Flint, on Bloomington: “I’m a city guy. You know me. I grew up in the city… It’s a great college town. One of the things I will say when I first got here, myself and Archie and (assistant athletic director for basketball administration) Bill Comar were the first three guys to be here for a significant period of time before everybody else. We use to take these tours through campus. And I will say this – the campus is unbelievable. I couldn’t believe how beautiful the campus was. That took me back, so that’s one of the things I’ve enjoyed. But Bloomington has been good. They love their basketball here… It’s been a lot of fun and I’ve enjoyed it. People have really made me feel comfortable here.”

· Flint said that “Archie let’s you coach as a coach. I’ve been in this business for a long time, and sometimes coaches just sit on the sidelines. They don’t say anything. He does a great job of delegating, letting you know ‘this is what I expect out of you. This is what I want you to do.’ So actually, as a coach, it keeps you refreshed, it makes you feel as though you’re a part of what’s going on. I’ve known a lot of guys that have done work at some places where they just sit there and let the coach do what he wants to do. But Archie lets you really get involved, with what the gameplan is about, with what practice is about. So that keeps you fresh.”

· Flint said Miller has a lot of similarities to John Calipari, who Flint was an assistant for at UMass, including “unbelievable organization,” an “intensity about them that doesn’t intimidate,” but also “a kindness about them where you know that they care.”

· Asked if he’s ever coached a player that had a game like Robert Johnson’s against Iowa, Flint said Damion Lee made 10 threes when he was at Drexel.

· Flint, on Justin Smith’s emergence: “He’s getting a better feel for what we’re asking for and what he can do on the floor. When you make the transition from high school to college, people don’t understand that shot when you drove to the basket and dunked, it gets contested. That move you made, it gets contested. Guys are a little bit bigger, a little bit faster, a little bit more athletic than you’re used to playing. Night in and night in. I thought (Smith) got a little tired (leading up to) the Christmas break. I think after (the break), he came back, he was a little bit more refreshed. He also got a better understanding of what he could do out there. Some of the things that he could do in high school he realized he can’t do in college… Now, he’s not making as many mistakes. Because he’s played a lot, he has a better understanding of what he can and cannot do out there.”

· Flint, on how to get the team to play more consistently: “If we knew that, we’d be able to answer a lot of questions. But you never know. You’re dealing with kids also, too. I always laugh because I tell adults who talk about sports, I say, when you’re dealing with kids, you’re going to be consistent. If you’re inconsistent as an adult, you get fired from your job… When you’re with a kid, you’ve gotta stick with them and hope they get better as time goes on.”

· Flint, on if he’d rather play in the afternoon or evening session of the Big Ten tournament, “I’m just glad we’re not playing on that Wednesday. That’s the good thing for us, I guess. I don’t know I just wait for them to put out the itinerary, so I don’t know anything about when we’re leaving or anything like that. I just wait for the email, let me know when I have my bags packed by.”

· Flint, on his role in commit Jake Forrester’s recruitment: “I actually played against his dad in college. His dad played at Temple… We had sort of a relationship going into (the recruitment). Actually, the previous staff had done some pretty decent work with Jake. Knowing his parents, I was able to jump right back into it, but he’s going to be a really good player for us. He plays with a lot of energy, really athletic, 6-foot-9. We need to get some size, and that’s one reason why we like him. But he plays with a lot of energy, I think the people will enjoy him here.”

· Priller, on how he earned his cult status: “I have no idea. My freshman year I went in at the end of the game and hit a three, but it was a little long and hit the backboard, but went in though. I got a steal and after that, I was trending on Twitter and ever since then, it’s just been a thing, I guess. I don’t know.”

· Priller said he chose Indiana because it was his biggest offer. He was thinking about going to the University of Illinois at Chicago but, “then coach Crean called me up and offered me. I was like ‘yeah, I’ll come to Indiana.'”

· Priller on his role with the program: “Everyone wants to play and obviously, I haven’t played that much, but if (scout team) is going to be my role, I’m just going to do whatever I can for the team and try as hard as I can at being a scout player and getting them ready for the games.”

· Priller is majoring in liberal studies with minors in criminology and sociology.

· Priller, on what he does outside of playing basketball: “I sleep. I do homework. And there’s a game called Fortnight… It’s a pretty fun game.”

· Priller said his best friend on the team is Robert Johnson: “We’ve been through a lot of ups and downs. We used to argue all the time, but y’know, that’s just part of building a friendship and stuff.”

· Priller said his worst experience at Indiana was during an offseason workout freshman year. The team was flipping 75-pound logs on a wet field and one slipped out of Yogi Ferrell’s hands and hit him in the head.

Priller added that “Let’s just say the rest of that workout I was pretty dizzy and nauseous.”

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  • coachv

    could be the tip of the iceberg

  • IdahoHoosier

    Haha plenty of Knight stories make it clear he wasn’t congenial consistently enough.

  • sarge

    double secret probation, sir?

  • coachv

    remember a couple years ago that duke player got sued for not paying off his jewelry purchase of over $100,000 at a nyc store. if memory serves, which is not often anymore, he plunked down around $35,000 cash while still a player at duke. boy, did that go away fast

  • sarge

    Awesome seeing all of these schools on this list that I always assumed were cheated getting named! Glad that we aren’t on here and I hope it remains that way. I always thought we set the standard for how to run a program correctly, even with the Kelvin Sampson mess. Proud of CTC and Archie Miller. I hope what Sampson says about these cheaters comes true and they “throw the book at them.” Good to see IU on the rise while these teams are seemingly going down.

  • coachv

    oooh, secrets.

  • sarge

    Duke is one of the worst in my opinion. K took over Knights legacy as the all time winningest coach and did it dirty. It’s obvious to me they are cheats just like UNC. Take some more titles from these teams please.

  • coachv

    oh no. i don’t know what i would do if i ever lost your respect

  • coachv

    yeah. pat knight. good call. he may not have been on scholarship

  • coachv

    yeah, me too. but doesn’t explain why he is a favorite

  • Arch Puddington

    Some immediate thoughts:

    1. Hard work and skill aren’t the same. Indeed, it has been argued by people both in the press and here on ITH that CTC’s manic energy and hyper-focus on details was, beyond a certain point, counterproductive. Too many plays in the playbook, too many teeny, tiny points of critique, etc.
    2. He seemed to coach from the top-down — recruit athletes, teach them to play offense, back fill the rest. Even today, though, basketball starts with fundamentals and builds from the ground up. We just never knew how to defend, how to take care of the ball, or how to attack sticky, physical defenses.
    3. While generally known as a decent guy (full disclosure, I knew him and his family a bit), he was also an odd and sometimes contentious person who could not establish or sustain the kind of relationships it takes to recruit. He was seen by many coaches, including some I know, as standoffish or even arrogant, and in the end could not even recruit his home state. That Archie landed RP and DA almost immediately after being hired, and got us back in the game (or in the game for the first time) with Brooks, Jackson-Davis, and Romeo, kind of tells the story. That is more interest and more success with Indiana kids in the first few months of his time here than CTC had over the last 3-4 years.

    Hard work cures a lot, but not everything.

  • Arch Puddington

    You’re talking about Delta, sir.

  • IUBizmark

    This is great news! I’ve heard that this is only one agency or one agent and there could still be more to come. I’m confident Crean ran a clean program. Hopefully the players were as diligent.
    There was an interview with Crean after he was let go talking about losing players to other schools and he took the high road. I have seen TONS of guys he was recruiting on these lists (PJ Dozier, Isaiah Whitehead, Miles Bridges, Bowen(?)) so I’m sure it must’ve been frustrating to not land them. He seemed to insinuate he knew.

  • Travis

    Good point. I guess those buckets in the Purdue game last year had a lasting effect on SCHoosier

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    Yessir, I don’t think CTC had to pay much for April, priller, or gelon. 😉

    I’d be ticked too if I was CTC. How frustrating would that be, especially when you’ve got a rabid fan base on your a$$ every time you let another one get away.

    And you’re right, he handled it with class. Ran a clean program, found some diamonds in the rough along the way. The dude really tried hard, y’know? I wonder if he was hoping to just weather the storm, wait for all this to get flushed out.

  • coachv

    kind of like drugs. make them legal, crime goes down and gangs disappear

  • coachv

    by that time jefferies probably had 5 grand laying around loose between his couch cushions.

  • Arch Puddington

    Not much to argue with there. I have written extensively on this site about my feeling that everything about the NCAA’s notion of amateurism is fraudulent and corrupt. Division I athletes are unique, or nearly so, in the restrictions placed on what they can do and what they can earn. My own sons are both on full cost-of-attendance academic scholarships at D1 universities, and have no restrictions on what they can earn, with whom they can associate, and how their own likenesses are used. And of course, everyone ELSE associated with athletics — coaches, trainers, administrators, the people who sell fancy weight room equipment, on and on and on — can earn as much as an essentially open market will bear, and can even do work on the side (endorsements, moonlighting, etc). But a circle has been collusively drawn around D1 athletes by the adults who profit from their labor, and I find the whole regime contemptible.

    So while I know exactly what you mean when you say that this is cultural, and while I don’t view compensation as inherently or morally improper, the NCAA takes “impermissible benefits” more seriously than sexual assault, academic misconduct, or anything else. So whether I agree with it or not, I suspect the NCAA, essentially hoisted on its own petard, will have to act.

  • Lance76


  • Lance76

    IMHO— micromanaging will not get you to the top of the mountain. Trust, respect, brains and devotion go a long way with all relationships.

  • IdahoHoosier

    Religious zealot treatment? Not sure what you mean there. And people nurture plants, not the other way around. Never been to a plant nursery and seen the plants watering and pruning the people.

  • coachv

    didn’t you just tell everyone yesterday that you were taking a long break from posting because someone hurt your feeling?

  • coachv

    who is?

  • coachv

    he was a favorite long before that but i did enjoy his moment in the sun

  • coachv

    don’t look now but our former texting guru is taking his houston cougars to the dance and he’s bringing devin davis with him

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    Glad you asked. HMP, by far.

  • Colt

    It shouldn’t be that hard not to cheat. Crean’s coaching cost him his job.

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    You could make that argument as well, absolutely. But when he had talent, he had the #1 team in the country.

  • Ivan Renko

    is that with Christian Dawkins? I saw Vandy listed as one of the schools who had players/families/former players meeting with Christian Dawkins prior to his arrest by the FBI

  • IU Hoosiers # 34, 1979-83

    Sarge, hello! Finally this investigation is hitting the airwaves. Before it seemed to be the most uncovered story in sports.

  • John D Murphy

    Sounds juicy. Let us know when you are posting while intoxicated so we can ask again then

  • No, I think that was after he had to finally accept that, yes, the ref really did give Nebraska the continuation and-one on that foul.

  • Koko

    Good for Devin…I hope he plays well.

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    It was from 2015 so I can’t imagine his involvement has any ties whatsoever with iu. And I’m pretty sure iu would have been mentioned if that were the case. But who knows, I could be wrong

  • mharv2631

    Schools named with active players implicated:
    Alabama (Collin Sexton)
    Duke (Wendell Carter)
    Kentucky (Kevin Knox)
    Michigan State (Miles Bridges)
    South Carolina (Brian Bowen)
    Texas (Eric Davis Jr.)
    USC (Bennie Boatwright

    Schools named with former players implicated:
    Iowa State
    NC State
    North Carolina
    Notre Dame
    Seton Hall
    Wichita State

  • dwdkc

    Well professionals that are 13 years removed from school have options that college players don’t have. Keep in mind Jared left school 5 years before the agents’ company even started up.

  • Kyl470

    Very true, but that was long after he was gone from IU. He was a pro at that point. The list included all their clients some of them were pros at the time.

  • AndyCapp


  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    The place didn’t even exist until 2007. Dean wormer would tell you there is 0.0 chance

  • Koko

    I wonder if the selection committee will use this list in their
    selection process? If so the NCAA tournament will be blown
    wide open. Teams will be in that probably wouldn’t have.

  • IU Hoosiers # 34, 1979-83

    Remember, the NCAA was all over Hanner Perea ,IU, just because he had a guardian who gave a $30 donation for an IU license plate/Alumni Club,,,, however the list of culprits got away with horrific infractions before, during and after that.

  • Arch Puddington

    You can’t tell when I’m slurring my posts?

    I resent the suggestion that I can be plied with alcohol. I can’t deny it, I just resent it.

  • eljay

    Honestly, it’s not usually in my nature to disparage any IUBB players. Anyone who’s willing to wear the Cream and Crimson, represent my alma mater—and put up with a fan base that always expects excellence on and off the court—has my support and appreciation.

    But since you asked: Noah Vonleh.

  • Mirko

    The Miller’s are cheaters…