Indiana picked to finish sixth in Big Ten by Lindy’s Sports

  • 09/08/2016 6:10 pm in

We recently shared preseason projections from the Athlon Sports college basketball preview, which was bullish on Indiana for the 2016-2017.

The second preseason college magazine preview magazine out this fall, published by Lindy’s Sports, is not as high on the Hoosiers. (Last year, Lindy’s ranked Indiana No. 4 in the preseason.)

Here are some notes on Indiana and the Big Ten at-large from the annual publication.

· Lindy’s ranks the top 25 players at all five positions nationally and two IU players are featured. James Blackmon Jr. is ranked the third best shooting guard and Thomas Bryant is the nation’s No. 2 center.

· In terms of frontcourts nationally, Indiana is ranked the eighth best behind Duke, Wisconsin, Kentucky, North Carolina, Oregon, Purdue and Kansas.

· Lindy’s ranks its top 40 teams nationally and Indiana is the lowest ranked of the six Big Ten teams mentioned. Wisconsin is No. 6, Michigan State is No. 11, Purdue is No. 12, Ohio State is No. 29, Maryland is No. 37 and Indiana is No. 38.

· Here’s the brief blurb explaining IU’s national ranking: “There’s talent on hand, but good luck replacing Yogi.”

· The publication predicts the order of finish in the Big Ten as follows: Wisconsin, Michigan State, Purdue, Ohio State, Maryland, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Northwestern, Iowa, Penn State, Nebraska, Minnesota and Rutgers.

· On its preseason all-conference team, both Blackmon Jr. and Bryant are first team. The other first team members are Maryland’s Melo Trimble, Iowa’s Peter Jok and Wisconsin’s Nigel Hayes.

· De’Ron Davis is regarded as the best incoming rebounder and the league’s best “signing coup.” Grant Gelon and Curtis Jones are mentioned in the recruiting/newcomers section as the best incoming shooters.

· 2016 NCAA tournament predictions for Big Ten teams are as follows: Wisconsin (Elite Eight), Michigan State (Sweet Sixteen), Purdue (Sweet Sixteen), Ohio State (Round of 32), Maryland (Round of 32) and Indiana (one and done).

· Indiana’s incoming recruiting class is regarded as the 13th best nationally.

· The Big Ten is ranked as the third best conference in the country behind the ACC and Pac 12.



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  • I am Baby Cakes

    And what did the B1G do? The champs got slaughtered in the Sweet 16 the highest seed lost in the 1st round. You gotta look at this coming year. Like I said. Get out of your box and look around a bit.

  • I am Baby Cakes

    Oregon made it to the Elite 8. How many B1G teams were in the Elite 8?

  • sarge

    So your validation is a single team in the easiest bracket? The champs got beat by UNC, who ended up nearly winning it all. This article is all about the coming year man. I get it, you aren’t pro-IU, but you don’t make any sense. The Pac-12 is a joke. Oregon got beat by Oklahoma who was destroyed by a record margin in the following game. The West bracket was too easy and the results reflect that. I don’t think the Big Ten did much better, but nothing you have said backs up the Pac-12 as the second best conference. Give me some of your expert knowledge if you got some, or at least whatever you put in your coffee.

  • I am Baby Cakes

    Oh okay… So Oregon getting beat by Oklahoma and then Oklahoma getting destroyed by Nova means Oregon sucks… But Indiana getting destroyed by UNC is okay because they almost won the national title. Got it.

  • Arch Puddington

    That we played better after he was out is not debatable; that we played better BECAUSE he was out is most certainly debatable.The Notre Dame game was clearly the turning point for the season, and Blackmon played a big part in it. After a shaky first half, we held the #8 offense in the country to just 32 points in the second half. Blackmon played 29 minutes in that game, went 3-5 from deep, and had 8 rebounds. He only played one more game after that, but by then the team was already 5 games into what became an 11 game win streak and never looked back.

    What would have happened had he not gotten hurt is impossible to say, but given the progress that Nick Zeisloft showed over the rest of the season, it is entirely reasonable to believe that Blackmon would have progressed defensively as well. Not only did the whole team improve at the team aspects of defense – communicating, hedging, rotating, etc. — the really critical piece was the impact of Morgan and Anunoby. Their length and savvy changed the entire chemistry of our defense, and Blackmon would have benefited from that as much as anyone.

    Believe what you will, but I’ll eagerly look forward to a healthy Blackmon and a truly great interior defense this year.

  • sarge

    I think beating UK was more impressive than Oregon beating Duke. Considering both teams had one good win, I don’t see why you referenced Oregon like they did something. The Pac-12 is still not good, Lindy’s prediction is still lousy and you still post on an IU fan site when you clearly hate cream and crimson. Please get a life.

  • Ole Man

    ROFL! Hope I didn’t disappoint.

  • TomJameson

    Thanks Alex.

  • there you go again with all that “logic” stuff.

  • so basically they put a lot of stock in Yogi, which explains last year’s rankings and the drop this year, due to his graduation?

  • I’m really liking the pride and confidence in this year’s team, as exhibited by most posters on this thread. Good to see!

  • evidently so

  • sarge

    Other than Oregon beating Duke, what other win could the Pac-12 even boast? It was literally the entire conference’s only good win of the tournament. Not to mention Duke was sliding in the wrong direction by season’s end losing 5 out of their last 10 games. Put Oregon in our bracket and no way do they reach the elite 8.

  • sarge

    Maybe it is point guard based? I still can’t make sense of this.

  • Zora Clevenger

    Agreed about JBJ, but my concern is not whether he’s a top 3 shooting guard (he is) but how those knees are going to hold up. One injury – could happen to anyone; two injuries – getting suspicious; three injuries – keep your fingers crossed and hold your breath.

  • TennesseeHoosier

    While I do not agree with the source, here is the conclusion I would draw from it: They like the players we have but do not think the coaching is good enough. Half court sets lacking and with shot clock running down and no Yogi to make things happen offensively for himself or teammates the Hoosiers will struggle. Like I said I would disagree with that and predict top 3

  • I am Baby Cakes

    But they did reach the Elite 8. Something that not a single Big Ten team did.

  • I am Baby Cakes

    Oh I am sure you do. Because you’re a massive homer and whatever Indiana does is better than everyone else.

  • I am Baby Cakes

    How about trying to use some valid points. Not that Oregon got beat by a team who got beat in the Next game. Like maybe that the Pac-12 went 4-7 in the tournament. The B1G went 8-7. Both started out with 7 in the round of 64 but 4 from the B1G moved on and 2 from the PAC.

  • sarge

    I was waiting on your valid points, but you are actually not proving your original point. So, how in the world do you come up with the Pac-12 being the second best conference? All I wanted was some valid points on you original post, but now you are proving yourself wrong. You are actually making less sense than Lindy’s now. I don’t understand what you are saying, at all. But call me a homer 10 or 12 more times to make yourself feel better. This really had nothing to do with IU in the first place other than it being on this website and IU being part of the predictions. You are a special kind of stupid.

  • I am Baby Cakes

    I did say they were. I said I could see it. It isn’t a crazy prediction.

  • sarge

    It’s crazy because no statistics or valid points would suggest that.

  • I am Baby Cakes

    Except the Pac-12 having plenty of talent? They’ll be top heavy just like the B1G.

  • I am Baby Cakes

    The Big Ten top 3 is looking like Indiana, MSU and Wisconsin. Pac looking like UCLA, Zona and Oregon. Can you say one set is better than the other?

  • sarge

    Sure.

  • E Foy McNaughton

    I guess it was in bold with a link in the story — sorry for wasting your time.

  • E Foy McNaughton

    I definitely agree that experienced guard play is vital to success. But I think they are selling JN / RJ / JBJ short — even if JN is the only pure point guard.
    Also, it is possible to have a low scoring point guard surrounded by outstanding players, like, I don’t know, TB, JBJ, RJ, CH, DD, & OG who can all score. Just saying.

  • E Foy McNaughton

    On the upside, assuming they missed by 4 spots again, 2nd in the B1G is not a terrible year, especially if they come through the season peaking in March and without substantial injuries.

  • David Macer

    Might want to read the ITH article on IU’s sets. Pretty complex and well run.

  • David Macer

    And they are not very smart people !! (purple font intended)

  • sarge

    I would say IU and Wisconsin return more of the core from better teams, similar to Oregon. UCLA and Arizona have high hopes based off recruits, so they are more like MSU, a dangerous unknown. But both conferences have teams that could make noise like Michigan, Maryland, Purdue and Washington, Cal and Utah. But I would choose the Big Ten of those teams because of more returning talent and a stronger second group of competitors for the conference titles.

  • cheeseman18

    I feel like I need to post this to set straight the idea that Lindy’s knows what they are talking about. I admit I haven’t read the magazine myself, I don’t plan to pay for garbage, but here is what a member of the ITH Forum posted about the contents of the article:

    [Well, apparently their preview of IU has ZERO mention of OG Anunoby…yet gives lots of praise to our “other big man” Max Bielfeldt, who along with Collin Hartman are “the best shooters of the bunch”.]

    Now if Lindy’s doesn’t even do enough research to know that Max is no longer on the team, and that he and Hartman were not our best shooters, then I’m not sure I would trust their predictions either. Just saying.

  • IUMIKE1

    As usual, not only well put but also correct.

    Don’t you feel better now that I have given your comment my blessing of correctness. lol

  • Arch Puddington

    I ALWAYS feel better after your endorsement.

  • IUMIKE1

    Your wife (if married) must feel like one lucky woman if such a small thing is able to make you feel better. lol

  • marcusgresham

    I agree with just about everything you’re saying and I didn’t read the article so I don’t know, but maybe by “coup” they just mean IU managed to get a kid from Colorado who was, in their eyes, unlikely to go to IU, whereas, MSU were considered front-runners for the guys they got.

    The PAC-12 is pretty damn solid, though. Arizona, UCLA, Washington, Oregon, Utah, Cal are all solid teams and there are others who were decent in there.

  • MDHoosier

    Someone at Lindy’s misspelled first.

  • Gregory J. Haggard

    Seems as though Lindy’s figures Anunoby and Morgan were a fluke, and DD won’t be able to block shots anymore.
    We’ll see!

  • IUJeff

    I agree with all of this. Tom is just a little slow though. Lol.

    I would add that the additional PT OG and Juwan got when JBJ went down was huge. Without the chance those 2 got, we would not have seen the team turnaround on D.

  • IUJeff

    Because some voice of reason has to set the record straight. Too much koolaid is bad for anyone.

  • IUJeff

    Not only possible, but desireable. A lot more guys will get to shoot this year. And that is good.

  • IUJeff

    Expecting some D from him. But let’s not get fanatical or anything. Getting down in a real defensive stance will be a good start.

  • Outoftheloop

    This IS an IU blog site! What did you expect?

  • Outoftheloop

    Men’s and Women’s swimming, clearly #1! Count the Olympic medals!

  • Ole Man

    IU nearly matched them just with it’s share of medals!

  • Outoftheloop

    Ole you need to check your facts: for 2016 Olympics 1) Stanford 27 total new medals; 2) USC 21; 3) Univ of CA-Berkeley 21; 4) tie MI 9 and UCLA 9; 6) IU 7. Not even close!