Film Session: Problems with the Syracuse zone

IV. Oladipo has the ball on the right elbow:

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Oladipo swings the ball to Christian Watford and Trevor Cooney rotates up:

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This leaves Abell open in the corner and Watford swings it to him for what looks like an open 3-point attempt:

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But James Southerland does a great job of closing out on Abell and blocks the shot:

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Baye Moussa Keita grabs it and it’s Syracuse ball:

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Even when the Hoosiers worked the zone for a good look, Syracuse was still there for one of its 10 blocks on the night.

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  • HoosierBballNut

    Painful memory to an otherwise stellar season

  • 5_Banners

    (Facepalm) ……..

  • hoosieriniowa

    I am clearly no basketball expert put it seems the way to beat this zone is to put the ball into the elbow at the same time your baseline players go to the basket and the point swings to the wing. Either at the elbow you shoot the jumper if nobody comes to you. If they do you might hit the player at the baseline. If they drop down you hit the point at the wing who shoots the three. I think Crean practiced it and likely with 6 players on defense. We just didn’t execute.

  • Kelin Blab

    Yogi had a floater in the lane, but went too far. He has to find his offense again, won’t have many kickout options next year.

  • IUMIKE1

    Clips 3 and 4 are perfect examples of where 1) The midrange jumper from the free throw area was there often but only taken by CZ 1 time I believe, and it was a made basket for cryin’ out loud 2) You have to actually “flash” to the free throw line area and not just walk or jog up to that area and if you do you have even more options 3) The shot fake would have done wonders in sooo many different situations in this game. RA uses one and he has a wide open, take your time 3 pt shot and if CZ stops and uses a shot fake it is a shot from 3 to 7 ft or a nice up and under or better yet has a good chance of the old fashioned 3 pt play. Forget whether or not Crean was telling CZ to take the jumper around the foul line for a second, CZ should have had enough bball smarts himself to start taking that shot after the first few times he got blocked legally or after he seen that the refs just were not going to send him to the line even if he was actually getting fouled.

    Clip 1 was a perfect example of how, way too many times, we threw the pass at the ankles of the intended team mate.

  • IUMIKE1

    Clips 3 and 4 are perfect examples of where 1) The midrange jumper from the free throw area was there often but only taken by CZ 1 time I believe, and it was a made basket for cryin’ out loud 2) You have to actually “flash” to the free throw line area and not just walk or jog up to that area and if you do you have even more options 3) The shot fake would have done wonders in sooo many different situations in this game. RA uses one and he has a wide open, take your time 3 pt shot and if CZ stops and uses a shot fake it is a shot from 3 to 7 ft or a nice up and under or better yet has a good chance of the old fashioned 3 pt play. Forget whether or not Crean was telling CZ to take the jumper around the foul line for a second, CZ should have had enough bball smarts himself to start taking that shot after the first few times he got blocked legally or after he seen that the refs just were not going to send him to the line even if he was actually getting fouled.

    Clip 1 was a perfect example of how, way too many times, we threw the pass at the ankles of the intended team mate.

  • chiswede

    My bad feelings about this game rose by 1000% when Carter-Williams made that steal on Yogi.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=775665643 Mark Coppock

    If I’m not mistaken, this is close to how we played it when we cut the lead to 6 (although we also played better defense during this stretch). We just didn’t/couldn’t sustain it.

  • oregoniu

    Thanks for the effort on the replay, It just isn’t as enjoyable as a review of good plays when IU wins. I’m sure the team and coaches learn alot from the review of the ‘bad’ plays. Certainly Cody shooting the elbow jumper would have been better than a block or ohter type of turn over.

  • Ole Man

    Please, please, stop dissing on Cody and everything he did “wrong”. Hindsight is only that, nothing more.
    Without Zeller, we would not have gone as far as we did this season.
    I simply don’t understand why people don’t understand that.

  • Daburns0

    I agree with that last part. No one seemed to step up in a leadership role at the end of the season. There seemed to be something chemistry-wise going on with this team, too. It’s too bad that it popped up at the end of the season and ruined what should have been a great run.

  • PDXHoosier

    There’s no secret to beating a 2-3 zone. Gtown (esp Porter) destroyed it by getting the ball to the free throw line in the middle. We were prepared, we just didn’t execute well.
    As far as preparation I think the only knock on CTC is that they played tentative and nervous, like the pressure had gotten to them (over-preparing for the zone?). I wish they could have at least had more fun in their final game of the season.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nicholas.cotner Nicholas Allen Cotner

    True……but it is frustrating to see a player as talented as the big handsome try to use that stupid shoulder ducking move over and over again instead of using a 10 foot jumper here and there when he is more than capable of shooting it

  • Kenneth234

    On that play, Zeller has the defense beat down the floor, a simple lob pass above the shoulders is either a dunk or a lay in.

  • IUMIKE1

    How ironic that you would complain about someone dissing someone. A good example of dissing on someone would be when you complain about Crean nonstop or when you tell someone they are doing or seeing something a certain way because YOU see it as that. Me giving my observation of 2 or 3 things that, in my opinion, would have helped us have a better chance of winning our last game is not dissing CZ or throwing him or any other player under the bus. Once again a good example of dissing would be how you throw Crean under the bus for virtually anything and everything that goes wrong. If you want to talk about understanding, I can’t understand how you don’t understand that 95 % of the IU fanbase, or higher, understands that we would not have gotten as far as we did without CZ and everything he did for this team.

  • Ole Man

    Mike; I honestly don’t know why you continue to “hound” me. I understand that you are a huge Crean fan. But isn’t your post an example of what you accuse me of? And you constantly criticize me no matter what I am posting about.
    Personally, it feels like you have some vendetta against me.

    I’m just another passionate fan. We have diverging points of view on some things. But should that allow you to disparage me when I do disagree?

    And you’re wrong. I have written numerous time of my admiration for Crean and what he is accomplishing. Somehow, you overlooked or didn’t see those postings.
    I love most of his offense and can see it being copied on the college landscape even this past season. It doesn’t mean that it can’t be improved.

    You are right about this. I see no good or use in criticizing any of our players. Neither you or I have the vaguest clue what it is to step on that court. And no one comes to your work place, stands over your shoulder, and criticizes you.
    They are athletes, yes; but they are also, at IU, students; and first and foremost, people.

    It’s okay to express frustration with someone’s play. But too often on this and other boards, it crosses the line.

    And what this years group, particularly the Seniors, have accomplished is nothing short of extraordinary.
    Zeller, I am sure, is 90% gone.
    And with hindsight, most will realize, that day in and day out, we witnessed an extraordinary career as a Hoosier player.
    As many on this sight like to say, “book it”.

  • IUMIKE1

    Once again we have a different definition of what a word means. Vendetta against you ? Hounding you ? I could say the same about you but don’t. I am the one that stopped replying to any of your comments and on the occasion that I have, as of lately, it is only because you have decided to tell me I am feeling or being a certain way in my comment, when I’m not and I even state that I’m not in my comment some times. Then upon me typing a rebuttal you call it me hounding you. I will go to the extent of no longer replying to any of your comments anymore but when I make a comment and you have a reply to it that comes off the way that you do most of the time you can for sure expect a response. If you define me rebutting you putting things in your reply to me the way that you do so often as hounding you than I guess, in your eyes anyway, I’m guilty of that. I agree with you on that we have diverging points of view but if you will recall you were the first one to disparage me and tell me that I disrespected Knight, I was a Knight hater and that I disrespected anyone and everyone that still liked him, all because I simply stated that my opinion was that he would not have gotten us as far as Crean did this year and even went to the extent of saying that I was not a Knight hater in that same comment.

    I took the time to look back over a rather large number of your comments and I have to say you, for the most part, you seem to like to talk down to people rather than discuss something. You say you are constantly attacked and dissed on here. Well when parts of your comments contain things like, ” now pay attention here “, and other lines like that, you are going to make just about anyone think you are talking down to them or dissing them. I also noticed that I am not the only one that you reply to in this way. Creanfaithful, Ken234, Eastwood88_2, NotTheRealSteveEyl and many others have been the receiptant of this kind of reply from you. I have seen several people have very strong and differing responses typed to them but you are the only one I have ever seen get the GFYS. Now that is over the top I agree and I will never use that but at the same time I can understand why you may come off to certain people as someone in a way that compels them to do that.

  • Ole Man

    You have your opinion. I have mine. Let it go at that.
    I also have many supporters on here. They mostly say nothing because they get attacked, just as I do.
    But that’s okay.
    It’s the internet. You’re going to have those with “internet courage” who go after anyone who happens to have a differing opinion. I’m not speaking of you here, because you’re honestly and actually speaking to me, for whatever reason.

    But there are others.

    However–WE have strayed too far from basketball.

    I disagree with you. I often find your posts opinionated and unsupported. You find mine the same way.

    You’re not going to change and neither am I. Again, not referring to you, but I know stupid when I hear it; and I will always disagree with it.
    I’m off these blogs for a while. Have a great summer. Take care, both you and yours. Go Hoosiers!

  • IUMIKE1

    Actually agree with parts of this comment. Am willing to put it to rest right here but will just add this, if called out by you I will respond as I would expect you to respond if called out by me. I won’t be off here as you say you are, as it is an addiction I enjoy and am glad I have. Take care both you and yours as well,

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