News and notes from Archie Miller’s first IU radio show

  • 11/02/2017 9:50 pm in

Inside IU basketball with Archie Miller was live on Thursday evening from the Holiday Inn in Bloomington. Assistant coach Ed Schilling was the special guest.

Below are news and notes from Miller and Schilling (all quotes are from Miller unless noted otherwise):

· Miller on acclimating to Bloomington “It’s still very new. I went to the wrong hotel for the first radio show. That’s how new it is.”

· On the team’s work ethic, “The one thing that these guys have at their disposal, and coach (Tom) Crean probably deserves a lot of credit for that, is their tremendous work ethic. You’re dealing with a group of people that are accustomed to working very hard, long hours, preparing. It’s a whole new style though. Implementing that is the most challenging thing at the start.”

· On retaining the three scholarship freshmen, “Us being able to sit down with them and talk to them about the questions they needed answered, how do they fit with what we do in terms of basketball, those are the big things. I think all three of them were really, really locked in on loving IU. They wanted to go to school at IU. If it didn’t work out, it wouldn’t have been because of anything Indiana did. It would have been because of the changes basketball-wise may have flipped them. But I think we were able to sell our style and who we are and how we do things. It’s easier sometimes to stick with it than it is to go open it all back up again. We were very fortunate to keep those three, they’re all doing really well. They’ll play important roles as the years go by and they get older. They’re going to be foundation guys that help us win.”

· On Collin Hartman returning for another season, “Very early on, you’re trying to get the lay of the land. You ask (head athletic trainer) Tim Garl one question. You ask (athletic director) Fred Glass or (deputy director of athletics) Scott Dolson a question. Because you just don’t know the guys. (You ask) ‘Well, how is this kid?’ Incredibly, whether it was four or five conversations, I figured out really quickly how important of a cog (Hartman) was with the team his year out. Learning (about) him, he’s a coach. Hopefully, he doesn’t coach, but he’s a coach. He’s a coach on the floor, a coach in the weight room, a coach in the locker room. He’s been nothing but helpful. He’s a great kid. I want him to have an opportunity to experience a real senior year.”

· Miller on the exhibition win over Marian, “I was pleased with our guys. I thought the intent to do what we’ve done every day in practice stood out. I don’t think there were very many guys playing a different game, so to speak. They were doing a nice job. Defensively, weren’t anywhere near where we need to be, but I thought we, for the first time, took a step in seeing ourselves against somebody else and what we need to do. So that was good. Offensively, conditioning played a big role. Yeah, it’s your first opportunity to play a 40 minute game with subs and not coming out. I don’t think our conditioning level, offensively, was as good as it needed to be. We’re spending a lot of time on that. The pace of play, the spacing of the floor. You stop four steps short because you’re out of gas, that causes some problems. But all in all, I thought the guys did a good job. We’ve got to be better this Sunday, though.”

· Miller provided injury updates on both Al Durham (hamstring) and Collin Hartman (ankle):

Durham, “(He’s) had two tweaks of the same hamstring. When you start to deal with that recurring theme, you want to really back off. Al is moving into this week a bit slower with the hope of maybe an opportunity on Sunday, but if not, not the end of the world.”

Hartman, “Moving back into that full contact mode. Had a great workout yesterday. I actually was saying to myself as I watched practice, ‘boy, we need to keep him around.’ He’s pretty good. He’s probably going to be on a minutes restriction Sunday, but if he plays, that would be good.”

· On the gold practice jersey, which excuses one player each week from conditioning drills, “It’s something that’s valued by our staff. It keeps our players accountable … there’s a little bit of an edge if you have it, because the way we practice, every segment is a competition. You always run if you’re not winning. So there’s a little bit of an edge. Devonte (Green) won it in week one, Juwan (Morgan) has really done a nice job in week two and three.”

· On the players that arrived in Bloomington after Miller was named head coach:

Freshman Race Thompson: “Once he decided to reclassify and use this year at IU for the benefit of being ready when he actually should have been here, I thought it was a really good idea. It’s a family decision that’s probably really tough to make, but Race came in and really was beat up physically. Knees and ankles and some of the things that he came with, I could see why. Now, he’s with (Tim) Garl every day, with the strength and conditioning coach every day. He’s cut his body fat in half already, probably trimmed himself down at least 10 pounds. I thought yesterday, he probably had one of his best practices. So as you’re watching him go, you’re projecting towards next year when he starts (his freshman year), being a guy that can help the newcomers, rather than being a newcomer.”

Walk-on Ethan Lasko: “Rather than play maybe some smaller basketball in college, always dreamed about playing at what they would call a blueblood. ‘Could I ever go to an Indiana and be a part of something that’s so big that the basketball isn’t maybe as important?’ Terrific student, was able to get accepted. Once he was accepted, we added him. He’s really fit in well, he’s a popular guy on the team.”

Walk-on Vijay Blackmon: “He was looking for a situation to change course from where he was at. The opportunity to bring a walk-on that has some athleticism and skill, as well as a relationship with the campus, I felt that was a good idea. Vijay has done a nice job, he’s fit in really well with our guys and he’s working hard.”

· Miller said he doesn’t plan on redshirting any players besides Race Thompson.

· Miller said he’s not a fan of the traditional way starting lineups are introduced at Assembly Hall. At Dayton, Miller preferred to announce the starting lineup in the huddle before the game. A decision has not yet been made as to how or whether starting lineups will be introduced this season.

·  On a CBS Sports article from 2016 that stated Miller’s favorite band is Alice In Chains:

Miller: They kind of asked me about a band. I don’t really listen to bands, but Alice In Chains was big when I was growing up in Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania. I listened to them all through college, all the time, that’s a great group. At that time when (CBS) asked that question, that was definitely the answer that came to my head.

Fischer: Gotcha. I understand.

Miller: They ask some questions now that you’re not really thinking about a whole lot.

Fischer: I know. And I don’t know what…

Miller: Who’s your favorite band? I don’t know.

Fischer: I don’t have the answer to Alice in Chains, either. I don’t know who that is. I know who Alice Cooper is, but not Alice in Chains. I’m sorry.

· When asked about who is adjusting the fastest to the new defensive schemes, Miller named Josh Newkirk, Devonte Green, Juwan Morgan and Freddie McSwain. As for the freshmen, Miller said Durham’s defense stands out, “I was really surprised about (his) savvy and IQ on the defensive end.”

· Miller said transition defense is the area on that side of the ball that needs the most work, with ball screen defense next on the list.

· Jay from Atlanta asked how IU can get good post play out of a guard-heavy team: “I think I ask that question a lot, too, Jay. I will say this – I think we’ve put a lot of pressure on our frontcourt guys, especially the last few days – they have to be a presence, not only in the post, but in transition. The better job they do of learning how to run and put pressure at the front of the rim and run and connect on screens and create action for people. Typically, that’s how our frontcourt players have always done well. Working through De’Ron (Davis), he’s learning how to play with guys around him now, that’s big. Juwan (Morgan) is a real key component to scoring and getting fouled in the post. We really emphasize with him, don’t start on the outside and then go in. You have to start from the inside and then go out. If I look at those two guys, we can play out of the post a little bit with them. From there, we just have to be real creative in terms of the opportunities that our frontcourt players create by being great screeners.”

· While an assistant at UCLA, Ed Schilling was given the assignment to scout Archie Miller’s Dayton squad, “I was very, very impressed with one, how hard the guys played and sound they were defensively, how they had an absolute clear plan of how they were going to attack offensively. Just really impressed with their toughness at both ends.”

· Schilling, on the decision to become an assistant with Indiana, “When I got the call from (Sean Miller) about if I’d be interested in talking to Archie about Indiana, I absolutely was interested. As much as anything, it was because of family. I’m an only child, my parents live in Lebanon. They’re in their seventies. Just to be closer was important to me. Also, my wife’s family is in Connersville still. So all of our family being here, and just growing up watching Indiana basketball and being a fan of the Hoosiers. You put all that together and it was really a no-brainer for me.”

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  • bball at nick’s

    After listening to Collin’s (first) senior speech, I knew this kid would make a great coach one day. Archie agrees with me! I bet he stays on as an assistant at IU, before going on to greater things.

  • Jay Skibbe

    IU BASKETBALL IS ON ITS WAY BACK BIG TIME !!! DISCIPLINE IS BACK, STARTS WITH DEFENSE AND PROTECTING THE BASKETBALL !!!

  • david r

    I’ll say it again. Ain’t no way we’re finishing 9th. The cupboard ain’t bare by a long shot. Archie Mania is coming soon to a TV near you. I can’t wait to hear the “experts” admit they underestimated us. We’ll hear that a lot this season, I’m sure. Or as Justin Wilson the cajun chef used to say; “I guarantee!”.

  • Arch Puddington

    He’s kind of the “Crash” Davis of Indiana basketball (although seemingly much nicer and less jaded). Won’t be surprised if he ends up in coaching, or perhaps sports management.

  • inLinE6

    What happened to Garland? Vandy is trending up today on crystal ball. Must be some insider news leaking out. I really wanted him.

  • bball at nick’s

    Another memorable thing about Collin’s senior speech is that you upvoted my comment about his speech that day, the first upvote I’d gotten from you in a long time. It was a “beginning of a beautiful friendship” moment. I look forward to many a heated argument this season, but only in the pursuit of perfection! LOL.

  • Arch Puddington

    We’ve had to work our way around some obstacles, but as my father always used to say, people of good will can find a way. Let the arguments roll on.

  • And One

    It has nothing to do with basketball, but the exchange between Coach Miller and Don Fischer about Alice In Chains is downright priceless.

  • Didn’t see that. Maybe it’s insider news, or maybe it’s because Vandy visited an open gym. Never know with this things, but we should find out relatively soon if he sticks to his fall schedule.

  • bball at nick’s

    Can’t remember if it was his brother or someone in his family who said the family was going to huddle this Wednesday or Thursday and make a decision on next steps. It seems the kid feels strongly about staying close to home and near his family. He’s probably doing what we’re expecting of Romeo to do, which is to love and represent his home state. I will feel bad if lose him to anyone, but will feel even worse if we lose him to anyone other than Vandy.

  • bball at nick’s

    Why does Alice in Chains have nothing to do with basketball? I don’t understand how we draw these lines. I truly don’t. I mean, basketball is a way of life, no? Otherwise you’re not a Hoosier, lol. Oh, and Alice in Chains contributed significantly to the development of at least one great basketball coach.

  • Outoftheloop

    Don’t forget his great steaks on the grill! Collin is just a special young man!

  • Outoftheloop

    Rumors are not necessarily good predictors of the future. Hang in there Archie and let the chips fall where they will! Darius you will love Indiana!

  • bball at nick’s

    They’re not just rumors. The predictions turned dramatically in the last two days. There are five expert predictions for Vandy all of a sudden in these two days. These trends in predictions are usually pretty accurate when they happen to close to the player’s announcement. The thing to look for is when Darius will be announcing. If he is announcing soon we are in trouble.

  • How did the Crystal Ball predictions for Damezi Anderson and Jerome Hunter do?

  • “Juwan (Morgan) is a real key component to scoring and getting fouled in
    the post. We really emphasize with him, don’t start on the outside and
    then go in. You have to start from the inside and then go out. If I look
    at those two guys, we can play out of the post a little bit with them.
    From there, we just have to be real creative in terms of the
    opportunities that our frontcourt players create by being great
    screeners.”

    Love it. Somewhat undersized on defense? Attack the post on offense with your more experienced and versatile players and get their bigs in foul trouble. This guy knows his stuff. Pretty simple, yet so refreshing to hear.

  • Hopefully it’s nothing. I’d be super disappointed to lose him.

  • Thanks for posting the video of this. It’s generally something I miss (or can’t even get). I hope at least the audio of these shows will be posted every week. That would be fantastic.

  • Fifer39

    I like Archie’s approach to dealing with the Crean legacy – generally say nothing at all, get on with what you need to do but if there is a reason to drop in a positive comment (ie. about the work ethic) then do it. Pretty classy. He will have his own private views about the state of the program he inherited which will, rightly, remain private.

  • N71

    Refreshing is a good way of putting it. In previous years its like I was listening to a radio station out of range playing Duran Duran, you realize what you’re hearing and say to yourself ‘what the fudge’, lean over, hit scan, and boom, crystal clear there’s Led Zeppelin…or perhaps Alice in Chains.

  • Ole Man

    Which should quiet down some of those who keep saying that we need JM outside shooting 3s.

  • William Stephens

    If the statement about Darius’s mother having tears in her eyes at Hoosier Hysteria, and his fathers goose bumps and life long love for the Indiana Hoosier’s are true. I can’t believe Vanderbilt will be his choice. I do believe Vandy is making a strong push for several five star players but I can’t see playing on that court. Having the teams sitting on the end of the court is a drawback and I believe that alone would cause me concern in recruiting. Then with the history and tradition of Vandy, being an also ran in the SEC an obvious “football conference”, unable to compete with Kentucky…well I can’t see talented, intelligent kids interested in choosing that for a college career. I do strongly believe that if Darius decides for Indiana that will be an indicator that Romeo is strongly leaning to Indiana also. I do not believe Romeo will pick Vandy. His family has said competing for a National Championship matters, Vandy will not fulfill that desire, hell, they may not even compete for a conference title! I believe it comes down to Kansas or Indiana for Romeo. I also believe that the Langford’s are leaning towards Kansas. It was widely known that his parents were Louisville fans and most experts had him packaged to Louisville until the FBI incident. I don’t believe they love IU, but IU loves them. So if Archie does as well as expected this season then come spring Romeo will decide if he wants to be a Hoosier legend or go to Kansas. GO IU!!!

  • iugradmark

    Archie has assembled a terrific group of assistant coaches. Coach Schilling has a lot of accomplishments and is well connected to the state. He comes across humble and seems to be all in for the university and team. We are very fortunate to have the assistants helping us. I know that the head coach is going to get the majority of the press time but I hope we get to hear from the assistants from time to time as well.

  • bball at nick’s

    Damezi had only one prediction. Jerome Hunter is an example of predictions not always being reliable. For most high profile players, and I’ve been tracking Crystal Ball for a while now, sudden shifts in trends, especially closer to an announcement, are more than just rumors in my opinion. Which is why the more relevant news for me is how close are we to an announcement. At the very least sudden shifts in trends are an indication that something very concrete has been said or done by an important source that deserves consideration, and that’s more than just a rumor. Having said that, I hope your skepticism wins over the Crystal Ball, LOL.

  • Ivan Renko

    sounds like you are implying that the state of the program is/was poor. (correct me if I’m wrong). it certainly wasn’t/isn’t in a poor state, it just put 3 players into the NBA… the coaching and leadership void were the problems.

    the program is/was healthy, and because of TC made a remarkable recovery after he-who-must-not-be-named doused it in gasoline and lit it on fire. if the program was still a mess, Fred Glass wouldn’t have been able to go out and snatch one of the top coaches of the next generation.

    we as Hoosier fans obviously perceive a “healthy” program differently than most CBB fans. but I think most of us knew deep down that TC wouldn’t be “the guy” for the long term. nonetheless TC was a vital stepping stone in returning us to where we are today.

    the future is bright for Hoosier Basketball!

  • Ivan Renko

    those predictors have success rates of like 50 or 60%, don’t look into it too much

  • bball at nick’s

    For the record, and relating to all the Darius and Romeo anxiety … I’m not anxious. I think Archie is going to do something special with whatever players he has. My measure of his success, at least in the next 2-3 years, is how he maximizes the benefit from what he already has. Ultimately this kind of success is what will attract the kinds of players we want.

  • millzy32

    Alice in Chains? I’m sold. He’s the best. They come to snuff the Rooster but he ain’t gonna die.

  • Donnie Vick

    But didn’t the predictions sway heavily in IU’s favor after his visit? As of yesterday, he still hasn’t decided.

  • Sherronhasaheadache

    tough hard nosed ,edgy rock right there!! i have a few CD’s . Archie i love you even more now.

  • AndyCapp

    Alex, totally off-topic but not addressed anywhere else in the forum that I could find… do you know if Crean’s new position as ESPN Analyst will affect how much we have to pay out to him after being fired?

  • IdahoHoosier

    Also off-topic, but I don’t see the “flag” option for individual posts any longer? Is that just me? I’m being attacked by “Bankshot” and have blocked him but was unable to flag individual posts. Sorry for the intrusion.

  • IUMIKE1

    I know that it’s still plagiarism even if you change some of the words and that it’s a baseball analogy, but ” develop it/them and they will come “, feels like the right analogy here.

    For the record, I”m not that worried about whether or not we get both, or even one of them. Would I like to have one or both of them, hell ya, but I’m not going to be down in the dumps if we don’t. In the end what Archie is able to do with the lesser regarded recruits is going to tell us more about our long range chances than what happens with the 5 star guys. Yes, it gives us an idea of Archie’s recruiting abilities, but I think we have already seen enough of that with the players that he has got to commit since he has been here, with the players he was able to convince to stay committed and maybe most importantly the coaches he was able to recruit.

    Admittedly, at the time of his hiring I was somewhat skeptical, and also admittedly, I am being won over. A lot of people are putting the, ” he’s saying and doing all the right things ” example out there, but lest we forget that that example was put out there quite a bit when TC arrived on the scene also, and I was one of those saying it. With that in mind I”ll just say that it has been very interesting thus far, have liked what I’ve seen up to this point and that I am excited to see where Archie takes IU bball from this point forward.

  • Fifer39

    Ivan, completely agree with you. There will have been good and bad in what Archie inherited, and just some things that he, or any new coach for that matter, would do differently.

    My own view is, I think like you, that TCs tenure should always be viewed more in the positive than the negative because of the job he did in bringing us back from the brink whether or not he was ever the man for the long term.

    My comment was certainly intended to be more a reflection on what’s good about Archie’s style than a criticism of the previous administration.

  • Ivan Renko

    definitely. like you, I was very impressed with Archie’s approach and choice of words when discussing TC and the previous staff.

    sorry if I overanalyzed your final sentence haha.

  • Incog Nito

    I don’t know if I buy the “program is healthy” comment. If it is so healthy, then why is IU picked to finish roughly 8th-10th in the league this year. Losing three players to the Association with no good replacements doesn’t seem to happen with the “blue-blood” programs of Duke, UK, NC, Kansas, etc. The team Miller inherited was going to get beat up on regardless of who was coach.

  • Fifer39

    It was ambiguous at best!

  • Ivan Renko

    the “expert predictions” don’t bear much merit on the outcome of the season. and i certainly wouldn’t use those predictions as a litmus test for the health of the program.

    for IU, the health of the program is very relative, obviously, given its history and intense pressure/expectations from us fans.

    2 conference titles and 3 sweet 16s in the last 5 years would be 90% of the NCAAs wildest dreams of an accomplishment. for IU, it clearly wasn’t enough.

    I stand by my statement, the program is healthy. widely considered a top 10 college bb coaching gig, consistently top 10 in ticket sales, top 3 in program value, top 10 facilities and support, the list goes on.

    now – – – you would assume we would have a top 10 team every single year because of this, which is what most IU fans deem “healthy” and why TC’s tenure eventually ran its course.

    I truly believe Archie will bring us back to a perennial top 10 team, but the state of the program and the performance level of the team aren’t necessarily the same thing. they SHOULD be very closely correlating, and that’s Archie’s job to fix

  • John D Murphy

    Amen

  • John D Murphy

    You two brought a little tear my eye.

  • Doug Wilson

    For now on, Coach Miller can be called, ‘The Rooster’ because he ain’t gonna die..

  • Doug Wilson

    I look at the Chrystal ball predictions too. Vandy been in the lead for Garland a long time. If anything it is IU who is trending up up up.

  • Doug Wilson

    Man, it is so nice to know we took two from Purdue.

  • bball at nick’s

    It seems like it’s 40% basketball and 60% managing populations. LOL.

  • marcusgresham

    Tell him to come down to Georgetown & see my band tonight–we play “Would?”

  • And One

    It just seemed kind of random. I agree with you, though. And with Coach about AIC. “Dirt” has held up particularly well.

  • I like the fact that he can shoot, but I do agree with your basic sentiment…to a degree. He’s a bit too versatile to have him playing only in the post. Especially if an opponent’s big guy is guarding him (he can draw him away from the basket, especially if he can shoot the 3…matchup nightmare). That said, most defenders are going to struggle guarding him near the basket, too. And battling for rebounds.

    Are people saying Juwan needs to stay on the perimeter? Or is that a hold-over from Crean’s experiments with him initiating the offense?

  • Arch Puddington

    Yeah, it’s like Christmas on Walton Mountain around here.

  • Ole Man

    People are wanting him to shoot whenever.
    Coach wants him to play inside/out.
    His first 2 shots were 3s.
    Not sure how many he took inside, but it wasn’t many