Roundup: Transfers a major topic of discussion at Big Ten meetings

  • 05/18/2016 8:31 am in

The annual Big Ten meetings are taking place this week in Chicago near O’Hare Airport and the league’s men’s basketball coaches are in attendance as usual.

Here’s a look at some of the coverage that has come out of the meetings, which will wrap up later today:

· Brian Bennett of ESPN.com shares thoughts from some of the league’s coaches on the transfer “epidemic” and a fear that the process could morph into something that resembles free agency:

While no course of action was decided upon, coaches and administrators generally agreed that the transfer situation has spiraled out of control, especially with graduate transfers who are immediately eligible at their new schools.

“It’s a vicious cycle,” Northwestern coach Chris Collins said. “Where we’re headed is ultimately free agency, and that’s not a good thing.”

· Nebraska coach Tim Miles believes every transfer should have to sit out a year and says that many Big Ten coaches agree with him:

As the rule stands now, athletes who transfer from one Division I school to another must sit out one season before playing again.

But some athletes apply for immediate eligibility because of medical or family hardship or a coaching change. Also, athletes who graduate in four years can move to a different school and pursue a master’s degree with immediate playing eligibility.

Some coaches want change.

“My personal feeling,’’ Nebraska coach Tim Miles said, “and a lot of the Big Ten coaches feel the same way, is that no matter who you are, transfers should sit out a year. It makes it an academic process.

“Anytime you have an immediately eligible transfer, it promotes free agency. I don’t think that climate is positive for anybody.’’

· Graham Couch of The Lansing State- Journal has thoughts from both Tom Crean and Tom Izzo on the issue:

This always has to be only about the players — at least in how it’s presented. It’s the only chance coaches and administrators have of slowing down this runaway train, or at least preventing it from blowing up the sport as we know it. That’s the direction college basketball is headed, a discussion that’s soon to be had — the notion transfers should never have to sit.

“That would just disrupt everything,” Crean said.

If it happens, Izzo has said, he won’t stick around to see it.

· Mum is the word, so far, on anything official regarding a new rights deal for the league, but the prospect of moving games to FS1 isn’t a huge concern for league coaches according to Chris Collins:

Most men’s basketball coaches who spoke Tuesday kept a stiff upper lip about Fox and its cable channel Fox Sports 1 (FS1), which has struggled in the ratings. FS1 carries Big East basketball and averaged just 96,000 on the network (national champion Villanova calls the Big East home, by the way). Last year, the Big Ten averaged 1.2 million viewers for basketball games on ESPN.

“I think it’s been (ESPN) a great partner for the conference,” Northwestern basketball coach Chris Collins said. “I think it’s provided a lot of great exposure, but I have all of the confidence in Commissioner Delany. He’s already shown with BTN and a lot of the moves that were made that maybe people thought might not be the best ended up being great for the league. It’s hard for me or any of us to argue his leadership on what he thinks might be best for the exposure of the league. I think we’re all aboard. I think he’s given us great assurances that everything that’s going to be done is going to be for the best of the conference and best for the exposure of this product.”

· Further expansion does not appear to be on the horizon for the league:

Athletic directors gathered at the Big Ten headquarters for meetings this week said the topic has not been discussed.

It’s a sharp contrast from the Big 12, where presidents are considering expansion from 10 teams. The league is mulling whether adding two more members, splitting into divisions and playing a football championship game will increase its revenue and chances of participating in the College Football Playoff.

“We have other things that we’re focused on,” Nebraska AD Shawn Eichorst said. “The stability is terrific, that’s for sure.”

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  • InTheMtns

    According to ESPN’s list for this year, there are already 100 grads on the grad transfer list. I don’t remember how many there were last season. More than 10–20, though. Those who graduate in 3 years, indeed, are hard working students.

  • TomJameson

    My original post reappeared above … check out the article. I just skimmed it but, although not very clear, I don’t think they split out between undergrad and grad transfers. With 700 transfers this year, I would be absolutely shocked if the number of grad transfers were less that 2-3 hundred.
    I would be more interested in a better breakdown between type of transfer and conference, but I’ll leave that to somebody a little more interested.

    A quick search can bring up tons of articles on the subject.

  • calbert40

    I can see that, and you are probably correct. Still, I think it is Miles trying to convince himself that he has a legitimate reason for making a kid who graduated early sit out a year to transfer. I just disagree with him regardless of which line of reasoning he is using.

  • Outoftheloop

    ESPN is full of it. Link me to the list of names for grad transfers with immediate eligibility, I do not believe that number!. Anyone who obtained his degree and still has one year of eligibility left is a hard working student. That is like maintaining a full time job and going to school and completing your degree in 4 years! Any Mom or Dad would be very proud!

  • Outoftheloop

    I may have too, but I was referring to grad transfers only with immediate eligibility.

  • InTheMtns

    I don’t have a link that shows grad transfers for each of the last 5 years, nor the interest or time to do that research.

    Here is the list from ESPN for this year, as of May 10, 2016.

    Graduate transfers (immediate eligibility)

    Kwesi Abakah, 6-8, PF, Jr., Northeastern
    Kale Abrahamson, 6-8, F, Jr., Drake — DUQUESNE
    Spike Albrecht, 5-11, PG, RS Jr., Michigan — PURDUE
    Noah Allen, 6-7, F, Jr., UCLA — HAWAII
    Austin Arians, 6-6, F, Jr., Milwaukee — WAKE FOREST
    Jordan Ashton, 6-4, G, Jr., Iowa State — NORTHERN IOWA
    A.J. Astroth, 6-6, SF, Jr., Towson
    Nick Banyard, 6-8, F, RS Jr., Illinois State
    Canyon Barry, 6-5, SG, RS Jr., Charleston — FLORIDA
    Stephen Bennett, 6-9, C, RS Jr., Robert Morris — IUPUI
    Malcolm Bernard, 6-6, SF, Jr., Florida A&M — RICHMOND
    Emile Blackman, 6-4, G, RS Jr., Niagara — DUQUESNE
    Elisha Boone, 6-3, G, Soph., Saint Peter’s — WEST VIRGINIA TECH
    Darrell Bowie, 6-7, SG, RS Jr., Northern Illinois — IOWA STATE
    Lawrence Brown, 6-5, PF, RS Jr., Mercer
    Terry Brutus, 6-6, F, Jr., Ole Miss
    J.J. Butler, 6-3, G, Sr., Lipscomb
    Milos Cabarkapa, 6-11, C, RS Soph., Central Michigan
    Norville Carey, 6-7, PF, RS Jr., Southern Mississippi
    Ben Carter, 6-9, F, Jr., UNLV — MICHIGAN STATE
    Sam Cassell Jr., 6-4, PG, RS Jr., Connecticut — IONA
    Novian Cherry, 6-5, G, Jr., Savannah State — CAL STATE SAN MARCOS (Division II)
    Darion Clark, 6-7, F, RS Jr., USC — GRAND CANYON
    Corban Collins, 6-3, G, Jr., Morehead State — ALABAMA
    Daquan Cook, 6-2, G, RS Jr., UNLV
    Jeremiah Davis, 6-3, G, RS Jr., Ball State — GEORGIA STATE
    Talbott Denny, 6-6, PF, Sr., Lipscomb
    Connor Devine, 6-10, C, Jr., South Dakota State — ALASKA ANCHORAGE (Division II)
    Denzel Dulin, 6-4, G, Jr., Bethune Cookman — ALCORN STATE
    Ot Elmore, 6-3, G, RS Soph., UTRGV (two years remaining)
    Lew Evans, 6-8, RS Jr., F, Utah State — TENNESSEE
    Evans Ganapamo, 6-5, SG, Jr., New Orleans
    Hayes Garrity, 6-1, SG, RS Jr., Utah Valley — TENNESSEE
    Khalil Ghani, 6-5, G, RS Jr., Yale
    L.G. Gill, 6-7, F, Jr., Duquesne — DUQUESNE — MARYLAND
    John Gillon, 6-0, G, Jr., Colorado State — SYRACUSE
    Savon Goodman, 6-6, F, Jr., Arizona State — LA SALLE
    Derail Green, 6-7, F, RS Jr., Incarnate Word — NORTH TEXAS
    Brian Greene, 6-3, G, Jr., Florida Gulf Coast — CHICAGO STATE
    Doudou Gueye, 6-10, C, RS Jr., South Carolina State
    J.C Hampton, 6-0, G, Jr., Lipscomb — TEXAS A&M
    P.J. Hardwick, 5-10, PG, RS Jr., Arkansas State
    DeAndre Harris, 6-4, SG, Jr., North Texas
    Cameron Harvey, 6-3, G, Jr., Stetson
    JaVontae Hawkins, 6-5, SG, RS Jr., Eastern Kentucky — FORDHAM
    Gregory “Pierre” Hayden, 5-8, G, Jr., Hampton — NEWMAN
    A.J. Hess, 6-6, SF, Jr., Southern Utah — SOUTH DAKOTA STATE
    Tony Hicks, 6-2, SG, Sr., Penn — LOUISVILLE
    Merrill Holden, 6-8, PF, RS Jr., Louisiana Tech — IOWA STATE
    Christopher Ikuenobe, F, Jr., UTRGV
    Mareik Isom, 6-9, F, Jr., Arkansas-Little Rock
    Valentine Izundu, 6-10, C, RS Jr., Washington State — SAN DIEGO STATE
    Que Johnson, 6-5, G, Jr., Washington State — WESTERN KENTUCKY
    Ronnie Johnson, 6-0, G, RS Jr., Houston — AUBURN
    Theo Johnson, 6-7, G, Jr., Liberty
    Christian Jones, 6-7, PF, RS Jr., St. John’s
    Marvin Jones, 6-10, C, RS Jr., Kent State
    Phillip Jones, 6-6, F, Jr., UTSA — SAM HOUSTON STATE
    Stefan Jovanovic, 6-11,F, Jr., Hawaii — LOYOLA MARYMOUNT
    Christian Kessee, 6-1, G, Jr., Coppin State — MEMPHIS
    Michael Kessens, 6-9, F, RS Jr., Alabama — FIU
    Dusan Langura, 6-2, G, RS Jr., Mississippi Valley State
    Mike LaTulip, 6-1, G, RS Jr., Illinois — WRIGHT STATE
    Anthony Livingston, 6-8, PF, Jr., Arkansas State — considering St. John’s, West Virginia
    Junior Lomomba, 6-5, SG, Jr., Providence — WESTERN KENTUCKY
    Kajon Mack, 6-3, G, Jr., Tulane (2 years left) — TENNESSEE TECH
    Pat McNamara, 6-5, G, Fr., New Hampshire
    Grant Mullins, 6-3, G, Jr., Columbia — CALIFORNIA
    Cullen Neal, 6-5, SG, Soph., New Mexico (two years remaining) — OLE MISS
    J.J. N’Ganga, 6-10, C, Sr., New Mexico — MERCER
    Uche Ofoegbu, 6-4, SG, Jr., San Francisco — considering Boise State, Texas Tech, Creighton, UNLV, Northern Iowa, Houston, Georgia Tech
    Michael Orris, 6-2, PG, Jr., Northern Illinois — SOUTH DAKOTA STATE
    Reggie Patterson, 6-4, G, Jr., Mississippi State
    Richard Peters, 6-11, C, Jr., Albany — CAL STATE FULLERTON
    Jodan Price, 6-7, SF, Jr., Eastern Michigan
    Rodney Pryor, 6-5, SG, Jr., Robert Morris — GEORGETOWN
    Katin Reinhardt, 6-6, G, RS Jr., USC — MARQUETTE
    Chris Reyes, 6-7, PF, Jr., Utah — PEPPERDINE
    L.J. Rose, 6-3, G, Jr., Houston
    Atif Russell, 6-5, F, RS Jr., Pepperdine
    Chad Rykhoek, 6-11, C, Jr., Baylor (2 years left)
    Aaron Scales, 6-9, C, Jr., Cleveland State
    Scott Sill, 6-9, F, Jr., Delaware State
    LaRon Smith, 6-8, C, Jr., Bethune Cookman — AUBURN
    Akeem Springs, 6-3, G, Jr., Milwaukee — MINNESOTA
    Justus Stanback, 6-9, F, Jr., IUPUI (two years remaining)
    Patrick Steeves, 6-7, SF, Jr., Harvard (two years remaining) — GEORGE WASHINGTON
    Connar Tava, 6-6, F, Sr., Western Michigan — BOSTON COLLEGE
    Kellon Thomas, 5-11, G, Jr., Kent State — IUPUI
    Tristan Thomas, 6-2, G, Jr., USC Upstate
    Ron Trapps, 6-4, SG, Jr., Coastal Carolina — NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL
    Parker U’u, 6-4, G, Jr., San Diego State
    DeVon Walker, 6-6, G, Jr., Florida
    Karon Waller, 6-4, SG, Sr., Binghamton
    Carrington Ward, 6-2, G, RS Jr., North Texas
    Andre Washington, 7-0, C, Sr., Wake Forest — East Carolina
    Christian White, 5-10, RS Jr., Syracuse — PACE
    Tafari Whittingham, 6-8, F, Jr., South Alabama — CENTRAL CONNECTICUT STATE
    Avery Woodson, 6-2, G, Fr., Memphis — BUTLER
    Johnny Zuppardo, 6-8, F, Jr., Mississippi State

    Here’s the URL for this year’s list:
    espn(dot)go(dot)com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14390188/college-basketball-transfer-list

  • InTheMtns

    I think asking a grad transfer to sit out a year is wrong, too. I was just responding to why Miles and other B1G coaches are saying it’s not based on ACADEMIC issues.

    Academic issues were the original intent but only a very naive person would think academic issues are actually the driving factor behind the decisions being made about grad transfers. Another issue with grad transfers is that many of them leave when they are done with basketball and do not complete their masters course work. For what I’ve read, many coaches think because the rule came into existence for academics reasons, the rule and reality should have more resemblance to one another.

    Coach McCaffery thinks it should involve sitting out a year but he adds that a grad transfer should receive two years of financial aid for a master’s degree and he could only play basketball in the second year. He thinks that would create a “win-win situation” but admits he doesn’t know how it would be received. I think it might have worked if that had been the original design, but I’ll be surprise if it will get much consideration now.

  • Bill Graham

    I disagree. I think you have a point in that we should recruit guys who are game ready…but in 4 years from now will Green or Gelon’s 6 mins a game really have been worth an entire year of eligibility? Think about it this way. Collin averaged 4.5 mins his freshman year and contributed only .7pts. Was his 4.5 mins worth a year of eligibility? No way! Can you imagine having Collin for two more years!? Yes…there is a good chance that he might transfer…but IU has great grad programs and he might just stick around.

    Bottom line: If more programs would redshirt guys (instead of wasting 4.5 mins a game on them) then it would add age to the increasingly youth-driving college game and it would also give these students a chance to get a year of grad school paid for!

  • InTheMtns

    While I was looking for something else, I happened to come across an article about the grad transfers for 2015. According to the article, there were 89 grad transfers last season.