The Minute After: Iowa

  • 02/05/2011 7:42 pm in

Thoughts on a 64-63 loss to the Hawkeyes:

Iowa did it again.

It marched into Assembly Hall — where the Hoosiers have been playing inspired basketball of late — and punched home their second win in as many seasons in Bloomington. Both victories mark its only road conference wins in the last three seasons.

Somehow, someway, this Hawkeyes team just has IU’s number.

After Will Sheehey’s awe-casian slam over Melsahn Basabe ignited the crowd in the second half, the Hoosiers eventually mounted a 10-point lead (58-48) at the 7:47 mark, and it seemed like they were on their way to a third-straight home victory.

But thanks to a few turnovers and some stagnant offense on Indiana’s part, this Hawkeyes team got right back into the game with a 10-0 run to tie it up at 58-58 with 5:34 to go. And the Hoosiers were only able to muster five total points the rest of the way from the 7:47 mark to Iowa’s 16, and it was pretty much the difference maker here.

This was a game where depth and personnel issues finally caught up a bit with the Hoosiers. (Two Bobby Capobianco jumpers and a Jeff Howard sighting, anyone?) Oh, to have Christian Watford, who hung 30 on these Hawkeyes just a few weekends ago.

And the Hoosiers returned to their bad fouling habits a bit as well, allowing Iowa to shoot a lot of free throws (20-of-25 for 80 percent). Iowa also asserted some serious dominance inside — Basabe posted a monstrous line of 20 points and 13 boards (five offensive) — scoring 34 of their 64 points in the paint.

As Tom Crean said in his post-game press conference: “When we had a chance to keep momentum, we just didn’t really guard well down low.”

Still it was there to be won in the closing seconds, despite Indiana’s issues out of the first timeout.

It’s easy to do some after-the-fact complaining about Verdell Jones — he of 1-of-9 shooting for the game — taking the last shot instead of Jordan Hulls.

But he did create a pretty good look for himself that just missed. And Victor Oladipo’s tip-in attempt just missed as well.

A good shot with a board opportunity to tip home for the win? It could have been worse, folks.

Other thoughts:

+ Sheehey rose to the occasion this afternoon, tossing in 12 points (4-of-9, 4-of-4 from the line) for a team that needs some scoring help without Watford.

Oh, and there was this:

+ Indiana did a nice job capitalizing off Iowa’s 17 turnovers, as the Hoosier scored 21 points off turnovers.

+ Jordan Hulls was sensational, tying a career high of 24 points (10-of-17, 4-of-9 from three) though he had three turnovers and only one assist.

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  • InTheMtns

    Why do you think we needed to draw a foul? We were down 1, so a basket gives us the win. VJIII got open and he took a shot that he usually makes. Refs seldom call a foul on the last play of the game. But if they did, that wouldn’t give us any better chance at the win than an open shot would — what if we miss the FT and they rebound? And besides, why would Iowa foul and stop the clock? Why do you say drawing a foul was our only chance?

  • This stat makes me sick. The last 2 years, Iowa is 7-22 in Big 10 play. 4 of those wins are against Indiana.

  • MillaRed

    I see you thought this out. But still believe most teams believe in extending the game. Happens nearly every time.

    Im not upset about this loss. Would like to have seen them win it from the FT line though.

  • Anonymous

    Did I not say a couple of weeks ago that maybe, for some unforeseen reason, we just don’t get it against Iowa.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll admit I don’t know one way or another, but here’s a possible answer for the lack of rebounds from Sheehey and Oladipo while playing the 4. Neither is really tall enough to play that spot, and probably have to concentrate on denying passes because they’d be outmuscled once the ball gets there. If that’s the case, they’re likely spending quite a bit of time fronting the ball which would have them out of position to rebound once the shot goes up from someone else.

  • InTheMtns

    CTC said in the post-game that they weren’t able to have a full-out practice because of injuries and that they had to practice attacking Iowa’s zone going against coaches and managers. Some players only had walk-throughs. So, that probably explains some of their inability to react to Iowa’s zone. Still though, we were up by 10 and we did let Iowa off the hook. Those three turnovers down the stretch really killed us I thought. Maybe, as some have suggested, all the injuries caught up with us in this game.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    No, I agree that being shorthanded shouldn’t be an excuse. Also, we outplayed them shorthanded for 32-33 minutes and were in a dominant position. A team that is used to winning puts that game away easy. A young team that has just experienced their first tastes of real winning may have become a little overconfident after their run and Will’s dunk!

    The more I look at it the more I start to think we didn’t choke this time. I actually think we might have got a little ahead of ourselves and the guys got a little cocky and it led to complacency. Once a couple bad TO’s were committed due to that complacency, things snowballed and their youth and lack of success crept up on them and they couldn’t stop the downward spiral. This actually could turn out to be a real lesson learned!

    “Guys, just because we’ve won a couple games and get a lead doesn’t mean you are good enough to start thinking about the next game and coast home!”

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Actually on one of the possessions you are thinking of Jordy pushed Cartwright to the middle just like he should’ve and VO just stood there and watched him get off a nice easy layup. VO was in position to either slide in and take a charge or use his athletic ability to get up and alter the shot and instead he froze and didn’t help at all. The next possession Jordy let his guy go baseline (maybe because he got NO help on the previous possession) and although he stayed in front of his man, Cartwright used his superior athleticism to elevate and create and hit a tough shot. You have to look at the team and unit as a whole. That’s what CTC has being saying all year. It’s easy to look at a guy like Jordy and say “he’s a defensive liability” but it didn’t appear that way against Illinois or Minnesota because the UNIT played well and helped make up for any deficiencies an individual player might have. That failed us the last 6-8 minutes yesterday. They stopped communicating like they had been and THAT was where the bad defense came from.

    As far as Elston goes . . . yes, he is painful to watch on defense!

  • stonaroni

    I see your points about the last possessions, what a debacle.

    I have bigger problems with being up by 10 with about 7 min to play and our guards getting abused, particulary Hulls, on drives to the basket. We should have mixed in the zone and force them to take time off the clock and beat us from deep.

    Offensively we did nothing the last 7 minutes. They zoned us and Roth was not in the game, I felt a three by him would have forced them back to man.

    either way, the players have to execute and win the game. CTC looked pretty pissed off that he drew up a play and the guys stood around with n clue as to what to do. that is not CTC’s fault.

  • Andrew

    What are you talking about??? Sheehey’s dunk came at the 14-minute mark and give IU a 4-point lead. Don’t let the facts get in the way of your weird little angle. Think you might be overthinking it a tad bit.

  • Anonymous

    Pass-rushing DE? God knows the football team needs all the help it can get.

  • Anonymous

    I have a sneaking suspicion he may have a little Reggie Miller in him as far as thriving off the hatred of a road crowd.

  • Anonymous

    We’ve come up short against the two teams we should have beat at home: PSU and Iowa. It is because we don’t mach up with those teams? I don’t think so.

    I think it has to do with the pressure of being expected to win the game. We clearly play better against superior teams. No one (the fans, the pundits, etc) expects us to win in that situation.

    It’s a lot easier to play basketball when you don’t feel pressure to win. When there’s a huge talent gap between us vs. the likes of Wis, MSU, Ilini, MInny…they overlook us. In turn, we play that much harder and concentrate that much more because that’s the only way to compete with the big boys.

  • MillaRed

    Watford would have handled that zone. We win with him I have no doubt. The lost possession where they all stood around, who knows? We were not in the huddle but it was 8 seconds of nothing.

  • Anonymous

    Excellant point, if not the main reason then has to be at least part of the reason.

  • Diesel

    Yeah, what he said!

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Sure we did something! We handed them the ball over and over again with out even being pressured heavily!

  • Anonymous

    Had to watch the game on the radio and came away with some things that I might not have had I been watching it on TV. I have listened to Fisch call a whoooolllee lot of games and I don’t know if I have ever heard him talk about how bad the refereeing was in this game. He and Royce did their best to put it in a politically correct way for the most part but you didn’t even have to read between the lines to get what he was saying. I’ll put it this way for him to say some of the things that he did I knew that we must have gotten the no vaseline job from the refs. I still say Crean needs to get into them and get into them good, as in getting T’d up, the very first time they screw us on a call. That sets the tone for the rest of the game. There is more than one reason Izzo, Bo and others get the calls they do when they play on the road let alone at home. I am one that hates to blame any loss on the officiating but if you can just get something even a little bit better than what we have been getting I think it could possibly have made the difference in more than just this game. MSU 1 point in OT, Wisky one possession and now this game.

    + I am even more in the mind that it is too early to be doubting Crean’s play calling after a TO. Here was another tid bit I picked up by watching the game being called by Fisch. He said how mad Crean was when he called another TO right before the last shot and I forget exactly what he said but he said it was obvious that, one they were not running the play the play the way he drew up it up and it was pretty obvious that it was WS that did not do what he was supposed to do. Makes me wonder if he doesn’t feel like he has to have an extra TO in his back pocket for exactly something like that.

    + I have went back and forth about whether I think VJ3 taking the last shot was the right way to play it or not. I see the logic for both sides of the argument on this one. Yea he does a better job of being able to get his own shot, has hit a clutch shot before and has a good midrange game and maybe you could even say the law of averages were in his favor. I just don’t know if after struggling with even open shots is the right time to be taking the shot to either win or lose the game and the time to find out if he is coming out of his shooting slump with his next shot. It is very unusual for a ref to call a foul on the last shot of the game, correct, but does this not work both ways, do they call a charge more often on the last shot of the game than some other kind of foul ? While calling a foul on the last shot of the game is unusual is not more likely to be called in traffic and the way to the basket. Will the defender not be more likely to feel like they have to take more of a chance of being called for a foul in this type of situation more than defending a shot behind the arc ?

    + On Crean’s post game comments w/ Fisch I liked hearing him say we can’t look at this game and say well if we only had this guy or that guy we would have won it, that the reality is that we don’t and that we just can’t use that mindset and that he refused to use that as an excuse. Said we just wasn’t as tough as we needed to be towards the end of the game if we really wanted to win the game. His most interesting line came when he said that we have the players that we do and our best low post defense had to come from a freshman from Florida and that that makes quite a statement and is unacceptable. To which I agree 100 %.

  • Anonymous

    We comfortable beat Beilen’s Michigan squad from start-to-finish. Sure they made a run in the 2nd half (what team doesn’t make a run at some point?), but Hulls’ timely 3-point daggers snuffed any chance they had at winning.

    We won by 19. I would say that game is an example of imposing our will.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    I am loving those two guys. Once you harness Will and Vic’s energy and get them to grow up a little bit, they will be great four year players!

  • MillaRed

    That first play call where you say it was Will or whatever……I dunno. What I saw was 5 confused dudes. Not one.

    Either way, why not set something up simple? We want VJ to have the ball? Fine. We didn’t run anything for him. It was a total one on one situation. Why not rub him off a screen or something?

    It’s almost like we played like it was a tie game instead of being down one. We should not be shooting the last shot of the game in that situation.

  • IUBBFAN

    I dont want anyone on IU trying to block shots. The way the officials call the games they’ll be called for a foul every time.

  • millzy32

    The timeout earlier in the game with 6 and change left to settle the team down and get a play together ended in a shot clock violation. That was probably the most frustrating part of the game for me. Still way too much chaos going on after timeouts. This team is still very much a work in progress but the overall effort was there which is nice to see.

  • millzy32

    Word is that Iowa wants to get us on their non-conference schedule next year too. Sorry but IU makes Iowa look like the cream of the crop in the Big Ten each and every time we play them. Gotta get up for the bad teams too. Part of turning that corner.

    The best thing I can say about this game is that it wasn’t boring. Had you on the edge of the seat all game long.

  • millzy32

    Word is that Iowa wants to get us on their non-conference schedule next year too. Sorry but IU makes Iowa look like the cream of the crop in the Big Ten each and every time we play them. Gotta get up for the bad teams too. Part of turning that corner.

    The best thing I can say about this game is that it wasn’t boring. Had you on the edge of the seat all game long.

  • millzy32

    Loved Sheehey’s dunk but he has to remember that it’s still only worth two points. The two other times that he let his guy get behind him for Alley-Oops actually counted for 4 points for Iowa and you could say that they actually might have won them the game. That being said I was jumping all over the room after Sheehey’s dunk because it was Bad @ss.

  • millzy32

    Loved Sheehey’s dunk but he has to remember that it’s still only worth two points. The two other times that he let his guy get behind him for Alley-Oops actually counted for 4 points for Iowa and you could say that they actually might have won them the game. That being said I was jumping all over the room after Sheehey’s dunk because it was Bad @ss.

  • MillaRed

    We are 2-2 with (2) 1 point losses in the last 4 games. So I can’t give
    Coach a lot of beef right now about anything. He has a lot figured out.

    But until further notice, timeout usage and play calling thereafter isn’t a
    strength of this staff. It isn’t a one time thing. It seems pretty steady
    actually. Regardless of how you slice it, the way we finished the Iowa game
    was ugly with a capital UGH.

    It will be nice to have a Yogi type that can break down a defense quickly.
    Also, having Hanner and Cody underneath will be a good option too.

    I think Jerry asked why we didn’t have Roth in there at the end. I didn’t
    get that either. If he wanted Verdell to have the ball in the end, you want
    your best shooters on the floor to spread the defense. Rivers is not one of
    those guys. They didn’t give him any attention at all.

  • MillaRed

    I was wondering about our zone too. Gatens was terribly off. May doesn’t
    want to shoot at all right now. All the PG wanted to do was drive and their
    bigs can’t shoot outside of 8 feet.

  • walt

    Of course this is a game we shoulda’ won. Want to be positive, but at the 7:20 mark??, things started to head south, and could say nothing, but oh no or something like that. Our player throwing the ball to the fans instead of player he was trying to hit, or our player throwing the ball into arms of opposing player, or one of our players who should not be shooting—shooting mid range shots. I should have had a note pad as there were other things that should not have happened, but did. Not mentioning any names here, but some really silly errors.

  • Anonymous

    it didn’t appear we ran anything for Hulls for the last second shot against Michigan St either – at least I don’t remember ever seeing anyone set a screen for him to get a clean look. he ran right to the corner and shot with a guy untouched right in his face ?!?

  • MillaRed

    Well, if we really want to stir things up, we can talk about Hulls taking
    that last shot 8 seconds early against Minnesota too.

    This is the pattern I’ve been talking about. We can do better.

  • MillaRed

    Daniel Moore crosses the half court line, no one is even guarding him yet. He attempts a pass 35 feet from the goal that had 0% chance of gaining any type of advantage, a steal a 3rd grader could make and of course it turns into a layup and one. The come back officially begins.

    This was a very, very, very bad turnover.

  • Anonymous

    I am totally on board with Hulls now… he is going to keep getting better. However, a question keeps coming into my mind. Will he be better than Coverdale?

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Yeah, I’ve been complaining about the play calling in the huddle for a while now. The Illinois game was when I really started to pay attention. Bed-Wetter Webber called a TO and Illinois got a wide open three for McCamey (his one for the game). We called a TO on the very next possession and got a shot clock violation after we isolated Roth!

    In the past four games we’ve called plays at the end of games (and a couple late game shot clock expiring plays) and I’ve counted 2 airballs, 2 shot clock violations, 1 contested jumper (last game), and Jordan’s long three with 8 seconds left on the shot clock. That’s not exactly a great success rate. There was a play in there during the second half where Crean set something up and it worked with like 4 minutes to go. Also, I can’t say for sure if the lob to VO was a play called off the timeout because it was the second possession out of a TV timeout.

    Either way, it is probably one of the few areas left where I think CTC and the coaching staff could use some work.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    That was followed immediately by TP’s handing of the ball to Iowa, the pass that sailed over JR’s head out of bounds, and Jordy’s pass that slipped out of his hand, all in about 6-7 possessions. That definitely was a bad stretch of basketball. Can’t really blame the coaching staff for those errors. I will say that if players I coached made those mistakes (which were at least partially mental mistakes) I would have probably run them to death the next practice.