A first look: 2010 recruiting class

  • 12/16/2008 8:14 pm in

In case you haven’t noticed in the sidebar on the right side of this very page, Indiana has yet to secure a verbal commitment for its 2010 recruiting class. There are two factors playing into this:

1. Tom Crean admitted that the coaching staff has ground to make up in 2010. By the time Crean arrived in Bloomington, many of the top prospects for 2010 were already starting to build solid relationships with other coaching staffs. And the recruiting sanctions placed on Crean over the summer only hampered his ability to get out and build his own relationships.

2. The availability of scholarships for 2010 (or lack thereof) has forced Crean to be more selective on who to target for this class. It’s a good bet that only two scholarships (or possibly only one) will be there for the taking.

So who is IU looking at in this class?

Kyrie Irving, a 6-2 guard from St. Patrick’s High School in New Jersey, sits atop of the wish list. Irving visited Bloomington in November for the season opener against Northwestern State and is among the top 30 players nationally in 2010. He’s an explosive scorer who can play both guard positions. Due to transfer rules, Irving won’t be eligible to play his first game for St. Patrick’s until January, but he’s lining up a long list of schools that also includes Memphis, Rutgers, Villanova, Florida, Kansas, Kansas State and Texas A & M.

Behind Irving, the two names most frequently mentioned are 6-9 Savannah (GA) forward Brandon Mobley and 6-3 Louisville (KY) guard Aaron Cosby.

Mobley has not yet visited Bloomington, but told Justin Young, formerly of Rivals.com, that the Hoosiers have offered a scholarship. I’m not convinced that Indiana is hard after Mobley, but he seems like an intriguing guy due to his size and length.

Cosby made a couple of visits to IU earlier in the fall and speculation was rampant that a commitment could be on the horizon. It now appears that Cosby is prepared to let his recruitment play out and visited Minnesota in early November. Due to his transfer from Manual to Jeffersontown, Cosby won’t be eligible to play until this Friday. He has an offer from Indiana and I would expect the staff to watch his progress closely.

Beyond these three players, Indiana is keeping an eye on guys like forward Alex Gauna from Eaton Rapids (MI) and forward Donnie Hale from New Albany (IN), but I wouldn’t expect either guy to end up a Hoosier. In the end, expect IU to be very conservative in dishing out offers for this class. With the scholarship situation limited, Crean can ill-afford to take any chances.

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  • “mostly guard skills oriented” – you're right on the money with that, Jerry.

    in the past, Crean hasn't had teams that trotted out all players 6'4 and under. but, all of his bigs (the best example probably being Steve Novak) could step out and stretch the defense ala Kirk Haston.

    that got me thinking, what's the over/under on the amount of points Haston would average per game under Crean? 64 1/2?

  • “mostly guard skills oriented” – you're right on the money with that, Jerry.

    in the past, Crean hasn't had teams that trotted out all players 6'4 and under. but, all of his bigs (the best example probably being Steve Novak) could step out and stretch the defense ala Kirk Haston.

    that got me thinking, what's the over/under on the amount of points Haston would average per game under Crean? 64 1/2?

  • Bryan

    The team will be taller next year, and certainly much improved. I just remember how last year's team struggled against taller teams. Granted, UConn is a bit of a freak show as far as height is concerned, but we lost handily to Arkansas. Even if you excuse that loss to the Kelvin Sampson fiasco, we also couldn't close the deal against Wisconsin, and struggled more than we probably should have against Illinois and Ohio State, who were among the top 20 teams in effective height (for those of you that read Ken Pomeroy's site) last year.

    All I'm really trying to say I'd prefer to not see guards for the sake of guards in the 2010 class. If they aren't blue chip recruits, or if Crean isn't convinced he's found the next Dwayne Wade (who was on no one's recruiting lists), I'd prefer him to take a pass rather than filling a spot. Of course, I don't just want the tallest guy available either. Others have posted that they'd prefer to pass 2010 in order to land more top recruits in 2011. I think I might be in that camp as well.

  • Bryan

    The team will be taller next year, and certainly much improved. I just remember how last year's team struggled against taller teams. Granted, UConn is a bit of a freak show as far as height is concerned, but we lost handily to Arkansas. Even if you excuse that loss to the Kelvin Sampson fiasco, we also couldn't close the deal against Wisconsin, and struggled more than we probably should have against Illinois and Ohio State, who were among the top 20 teams in effective height (for those of you that read Ken Pomeroy's site) last year.

    All I'm really trying to say I'd prefer to not see guards for the sake of guards in the 2010 class. If they aren't blue chip recruits, or if Crean isn't convinced he's found the next Dwayne Wade (who was on no one's recruiting lists), I'd prefer him to take a pass rather than filling a spot. Of course, I don't just want the tallest guy available either. Others have posted that they'd prefer to pass 2010 in order to land more top recruits in 2011. I think I might be in that camp as well.

  • Bryan

    The team will be taller next year, and certainly much improved. I just remember how last year's team struggled against taller teams. Granted, UConn is a bit of a freak show as far as height is concerned, but we lost handily to Arkansas. Even if you excuse that loss to the Kelvin Sampson fiasco, we also couldn't close the deal against Wisconsin, and struggled more than we probably should have against Illinois and Ohio State, who were among the top 20 teams in effective height (for those of you that read Ken Pomeroy's site) last year.

    All I'm really trying to say I'd prefer to not see guards for the sake of guards in the 2010 class. If they aren't blue chip recruits, or if Crean isn't convinced he's found the next Dwayne Wade (who was on no one's recruiting lists), I'd prefer him to take a pass rather than filling a spot. Of course, I don't just want the tallest guy available either. Others have posted that they'd prefer to pass 2010 in order to land more top recruits in 2011. I think I might be in that camp as well.

  • Bryan

    The team will be taller next year, and certainly much improved. I just remember how last year's team struggled against taller teams. Granted, UConn is a bit of a freak show as far as height is concerned, but we lost handily to Arkansas. Even if you excuse that loss to the Kelvin Sampson fiasco, we also couldn't close the deal against Wisconsin, and struggled more than we probably should have against Illinois and Ohio State, who were among the top 20 teams in effective height (for those of you that read Ken Pomeroy's site) last year.

    All I'm really trying to say I'd prefer to not see guards for the sake of guards in the 2010 class. If they aren't blue chip recruits, or if Crean isn't convinced he's found the next Dwayne Wade (who was on no one's recruiting lists), I'd prefer him to take a pass rather than filling a spot. Of course, I don't just want the tallest guy available either. Others have posted that they'd prefer to pass 2010 in order to land more top recruits in 2011. I think I might be in that camp as well.

  • Bryan

    The team will be taller next year, and certainly much improved. I just remember how last year's team struggled against taller teams. Granted, UConn is a bit of a freak show as far as height is concerned, but we lost handily to Arkansas. Even if you excuse that loss to the Kelvin Sampson fiasco, we also couldn't close the deal against Wisconsin, and struggled more than we probably should have against Illinois and Ohio State, who were among the top 20 teams in effective height (for those of you that read Ken Pomeroy's site) last year.

    All I'm really trying to say I'd prefer to not see guards for the sake of guards in the 2010 class. If they aren't blue chip recruits, or if Crean isn't convinced he's found the next Dwayne Wade (who was on no one's recruiting lists), I'd prefer him to take a pass rather than filling a spot. Of course, I don't just want the tallest guy available either. Others have posted that they'd prefer to pass 2010 in order to land more top recruits in 2011. I think I might be in that camp as well.

  • Bryan

    The team will be taller next year, and certainly much improved. I just remember how last year's team struggled against taller teams. Granted, UConn is a bit of a freak show as far as height is concerned, but we lost handily to Arkansas. Even if you excuse that loss to the Kelvin Sampson fiasco, we also couldn't close the deal against Wisconsin, and struggled more than we probably should have against Illinois and Ohio State, who were among the top 20 teams in effective height (for those of you that read Ken Pomeroy's site) last year.

    All I'm really trying to say I'd prefer to not see guards for the sake of guards in the 2010 class. If they aren't blue chip recruits, or if Crean isn't convinced he's found the next Dwayne Wade (who was on no one's recruiting lists), I'd prefer him to take a pass rather than filling a spot. Of course, I don't just want the tallest guy available either. Others have posted that they'd prefer to pass 2010 in order to land more top recruits in 2011. I think I might be in that camp as well.

  • Bryan

    Here's what I came up with:

    The last 10 years – teams with elite big men that won titles.
    2004 – UConn – Emeka Okafor
    2005 – North Carolina – Sean May
    2006, 2007 – Florida – Noah, Horford

    No singular stud big man, but plenty of frontcourt firepower
    1998 – Kentucky – no stud big, but the front court had longtime NBA players Jamal Magloire and Scott Padgett, and had two other 6'10'' players.
    1999 – UConn – Jake Voskhul, plus 3 more frontcourt players taller than 6'11''
    2001- Duke – Carlos Boozer, Shane Battier are 6'9'', and the team had 3 additional players at 6'10'' or taller.
    2002 – Maryland (ugh) – no “stud”, but Chris Wilcox has a pro career, and their frontline was 6'10'', 6'10'', 6'9''

    The others
    2000 – Michigan State – no one of note, and no one taller than 6'9''.
    2003 – Syracuse – not as tall, but Hakim Warrick (6'9'') had the wingspan of a condor, and a solid NBA career.

    So, of the last 10:
    – 4 had premier (at least at the college level) big men.
    – 4 others had frontcourts with multiple players about 6'10'', with at least one NBA level talent among them.
    – Syracuse had a unique big in Warrick, and I can't really explain Michigan State.

    In 8 of 10 circumstances, the winning team had imposing size in their frontcourt, or a game changing C/PF. Seems like a pretty good track record, especially now that premier high school players can't go directly to the NBA anymore.

  • Bryan

    Here's what I came up with:

    The last 10 years – teams with elite big men that won titles.
    2004 – UConn – Emeka Okafor
    2005 – North Carolina – Sean May
    2006, 2007 – Florida – Noah, Horford

    No singular stud big man, but plenty of frontcourt firepower
    1998 – Kentucky – no stud big, but the front court had longtime NBA players Jamal Magloire and Scott Padgett, and had two other 6'10'' players.
    1999 – UConn – Jake Voskhul, plus 3 more frontcourt players taller than 6'11''
    2001- Duke – Carlos Boozer, Shane Battier are 6'9'', and the team had 3 additional players at 6'10'' or taller.
    2002 – Maryland (ugh) – no “stud”, but Chris Wilcox has a pro career, and their frontline was 6'10'', 6'10'', 6'9''

    The others
    2000 – Michigan State – no one of note, and no one taller than 6'9''.
    2003 – Syracuse – not as tall, but Hakim Warrick (6'9'') had the wingspan of a condor, and a solid NBA career.

    So, of the last 10:
    – 4 had premier (at least at the college level) big men.
    – 4 others had frontcourts with multiple players about 6'10'', with at least one NBA level talent among them.
    – Syracuse had a unique big in Warrick, and I can't really explain Michigan State.

    In 8 of 10 circumstances, the winning team had imposing size in their frontcourt, or a game changing C/PF. Seems like a pretty good track record, especially now that premier high school players can't go directly to the NBA anymore.

  • Bryan

    Here's what I came up with:

    The last 10 years – teams with elite big men that won titles.
    2004 – UConn – Emeka Okafor
    2005 – North Carolina – Sean May
    2006, 2007 – Florida – Noah, Horford

    No singular stud big man, but plenty of frontcourt firepower
    1998 – Kentucky – no stud big, but the front court had longtime NBA players Jamal Magloire and Scott Padgett, and had two other 6'10'' players.
    1999 – UConn – Jake Voskhul, plus 3 more frontcourt players taller than 6'11''
    2001- Duke – Carlos Boozer, Shane Battier are 6'9'', and the team had 3 additional players at 6'10'' or taller.
    2002 – Maryland (ugh) – no “stud”, but Chris Wilcox has a pro career, and their frontline was 6'10'', 6'10'', 6'9''

    The others
    2000 – Michigan State – no one of note, and no one taller than 6'9''.
    2003 – Syracuse – not as tall, but Hakim Warrick (6'9'') had the wingspan of a condor, and a solid NBA career.

    So, of the last 10:
    – 4 had premier (at least at the college level) big men.
    – 4 others had frontcourts with multiple players about 6'10'', with at least one NBA level talent among them.
    – Syracuse had a unique big in Warrick, and I can't really explain Michigan State.

    In 8 of 10 circumstances, the winning team had imposing size in their frontcourt, or a game changing C/PF. Seems like a pretty good track record, especially now that premier high school players can't go directly to the NBA anymore.

  • Bryan

    Here's what I came up with:

    The last 10 years – teams with elite big men that won titles.
    2004 – UConn – Emeka Okafor
    2005 – North Carolina – Sean May
    2006, 2007 – Florida – Noah, Horford

    No singular stud big man, but plenty of frontcourt firepower
    1998 – Kentucky – no stud big, but the front court had longtime NBA players Jamal Magloire and Scott Padgett, and had two other 6'10'' players.
    1999 – UConn – Jake Voskhul, plus 3 more frontcourt players taller than 6'11''
    2001- Duke – Carlos Boozer, Shane Battier are 6'9'', and the team had 3 additional players at 6'10'' or taller.
    2002 – Maryland (ugh) – no “stud”, but Chris Wilcox has a pro career, and their frontline was 6'10'', 6'10'', 6'9''

    The others
    2000 – Michigan State – no one of note, and no one taller than 6'9''.
    2003 – Syracuse – not as tall, but Hakim Warrick (6'9'') had the wingspan of a condor, and a solid NBA career.

    So, of the last 10:
    – 4 had premier (at least at the college level) big men.
    – 4 others had frontcourts with multiple players about 6'10'', with at least one NBA level talent among them.
    – Syracuse had a unique big in Warrick, and I can't really explain Michigan State.

    In 8 of 10 circumstances, the winning team had imposing size in their frontcourt, or a game changing C/PF. Seems like a pretty good track record, especially now that premier high school players can't go directly to the NBA anymore.

  • Bryan

    Here's what I came up with:

    The last 10 years – teams with elite big men that won titles.
    2004 – UConn – Emeka Okafor
    2005 – North Carolina – Sean May
    2006, 2007 – Florida – Noah, Horford

    No singular stud big man, but plenty of frontcourt firepower
    1998 – Kentucky – no stud big, but the front court had longtime NBA players Jamal Magloire and Scott Padgett, and had two other 6'10'' players.
    1999 – UConn – Jake Voskhul, plus 3 more frontcourt players taller than 6'11''
    2001- Duke – Carlos Boozer, Shane Battier are 6'9'', and the team had 3 additional players at 6'10'' or taller.
    2002 – Maryland (ugh) – no “stud”, but Chris Wilcox has a pro career, and their frontline was 6'10'', 6'10'', 6'9''

    The others
    2000 – Michigan State – no one of note, and no one taller than 6'9''.
    2003 – Syracuse – not as tall, but Hakim Warrick (6'9'') had the wingspan of a condor, and a solid NBA career.

    So, of the last 10:
    – 4 had premier (at least at the college level) big men.
    – 4 others had frontcourts with multiple players about 6'10'', with at least one NBA level talent among them.
    – Syracuse had a unique big in Warrick, and I can't really explain Michigan State.

    In 8 of 10 circumstances, the winning team had imposing size in their frontcourt, or a game changing C/PF. Seems like a pretty good track record, especially now that premier high school players can't go directly to the NBA anymore.

  • Bryan

    Here's what I came up with:

    The last 10 years – teams with elite big men that won titles.
    2004 – UConn – Emeka Okafor
    2005 – North Carolina – Sean May
    2006, 2007 – Florida – Noah, Horford

    No singular stud big man, but plenty of frontcourt firepower
    1998 – Kentucky – no stud big, but the front court had longtime NBA players Jamal Magloire and Scott Padgett, and had two other 6'10'' players.
    1999 – UConn – Jake Voskhul, plus 3 more frontcourt players taller than 6'11''
    2001- Duke – Carlos Boozer, Shane Battier are 6'9'', and the team had 3 additional players at 6'10'' or taller.
    2002 – Maryland (ugh) – no “stud”, but Chris Wilcox has a pro career, and their frontline was 6'10'', 6'10'', 6'9''

    The others
    2000 – Michigan State – no one of note, and no one taller than 6'9''.
    2003 – Syracuse – not as tall, but Hakim Warrick (6'9'') had the wingspan of a condor, and a solid NBA career.

    So, of the last 10:
    – 4 had premier (at least at the college level) big men.
    – 4 others had frontcourts with multiple players about 6'10'', with at least one NBA level talent among them.
    – Syracuse had a unique big in Warrick, and I can't really explain Michigan State.

    In 8 of 10 circumstances, the winning team had imposing size in their frontcourt, or a game changing C/PF. Seems like a pretty good track record, especially now that premier high school players can't go directly to the NBA anymore.

  • hoosierfan27

    We'll gain a lot of size with the freshman class

  • BGleas

    I wasn't speaking specifically about 2010. Just in general that you almost always need at least one NBA caliber big man, a few other solid ones, to win the title. Other than DJ White Indiana hasn't had a big man headline a recruiting class in a long time.

    Syracuse had Warrick, Maryland had Baxter (All-American) and Wilcox (lottery pick). MSU is the last team to not have that. You're also right about Arizona, but that's twice in the last 11 years. Even most of the runner's up had NBA quality bigs. The myth that college basketball is a guards game is exactly that, a myth.

  • BGleas

    I wasn't speaking specifically about 2010. Just in general that you almost always need at least one NBA caliber big man, a few other solid ones, to win the title. Other than DJ White Indiana hasn't had a big man headline a recruiting class in a long time.

    Syracuse had Warrick, Maryland had Baxter (All-American) and Wilcox (lottery pick). MSU is the last team to not have that. You're also right about Arizona, but that's twice in the last 11 years. Even most of the runner's up had NBA quality bigs. The myth that college basketball is a guards game is exactly that, a myth.

  • BGleas

    I wasn't speaking specifically about 2010. Just in general that you almost always need at least one NBA caliber big man, a few other solid ones, to win the title. Other than DJ White Indiana hasn't had a big man headline a recruiting class in a long time.

    Syracuse had Warrick, Maryland had Baxter (All-American) and Wilcox (lottery pick). MSU is the last team to not have that. You're also right about Arizona, but that's twice in the last 11 years. Even most of the runner's up had NBA quality bigs. The myth that college basketball is a guards game is exactly that, a myth.

  • BGleas

    I wasn't speaking specifically about 2010. Just in general that you almost always need at least one NBA caliber big man, a few other solid ones, to win the title. Other than DJ White Indiana hasn't had a big man headline a recruiting class in a long time.

    Syracuse had Warrick, Maryland had Baxter (All-American) and Wilcox (lottery pick). MSU is the last team to not have that. You're also right about Arizona, but that's twice in the last 11 years. Even most of the runner's up had NBA quality bigs. The myth that college basketball is a guards game is exactly that, a myth.

  • BGleas

    I wasn't speaking specifically about 2010. Just in general that you almost always need at least one NBA caliber big man, a few other solid ones, to win the title. Other than DJ White Indiana hasn't had a big man headline a recruiting class in a long time.

    Syracuse had Warrick, Maryland had Baxter (All-American) and Wilcox (lottery pick). MSU is the last team to not have that. You're also right about Arizona, but that's twice in the last 11 years. Even most of the runner's up had NBA quality bigs. The myth that college basketball is a guards game is exactly that, a myth.

  • BGleas

    I wasn't speaking specifically about 2010. Just in general that you almost always need at least one NBA caliber big man, a few other solid ones, to win the title. Other than DJ White Indiana hasn't had a big man headline a recruiting class in a long time.

    Syracuse had Warrick, Maryland had Baxter (All-American) and Wilcox (lottery pick). MSU is the last team to not have that. You're also right about Arizona, but that's twice in the last 11 years. Even most of the runner's up had NBA quality bigs. The myth that college basketball is a guards game is exactly that, a myth.

  • Bryan

    The team will be taller next year, and certainly much improved. I just remember how last year's team struggled against taller teams. Granted, UConn is a bit of a freak show as far as height is concerned, but we lost handily to Arkansas. Even if you excuse that loss to the Kelvin Sampson fiasco, we also couldn't close the deal against Wisconsin, and struggled more than we probably should have against Illinois and Ohio State, who were among the top 20 teams in effective height (for those of you that read Ken Pomeroy's site) last year.

    All I'm really trying to say I'd prefer to not see guards for the sake of guards in the 2010 class. If they aren't blue chip recruits, or if Crean isn't convinced he's found the next Dwayne Wade (who was on no one's recruiting lists), I'd prefer him to take a pass rather than filling a spot. Of course, I don't just want the tallest guy available either. Others have posted that they'd prefer to pass 2010 in order to land more top recruits in 2011. I think I might be in that camp as well.

  • Pat

    We are not looking for NBA players dude…we are looking for guys that will graduate and are team players so i dont know what you are talking about

  • Pat

    We are not looking for NBA players dude…we are looking for guys that will graduate and are team players so i dont know what you are talking about

  • Pat

    We are not looking for NBA players dude…we are looking for guys that will graduate and are team players so i dont know what you are talking about

  • Pat

    We are not looking for NBA players dude…we are looking for guys that will graduate and are team players so i dont know what you are talking about

  • Pat

    We are not looking for NBA players dude…we are looking for guys that will graduate and are team players so i dont know what you are talking about

  • Pat

    We are not looking for NBA players dude…we are looking for guys that will graduate and are team players so i dont know what you are talking about

  • BGleas

    Ok, dude…I guess winning is of no importance to you. Hey, i have an idea dude, how about we just make the basketball team a club sport instead of varsity?

    If we want to return to the prestige that IU basketball has had in the past, including Big Ten titles and National Championships then you need NBA quality players consistently coming into your program, especially big men.

    I don't know why there is this misconception that winning in college basketball today and recruiting top high school players means selling youself to the devil and recruiting drug adicts that can read. Look at UNC, Duke, UCLA and Kansas. All very successful program over the last decade and for the most part all those program are clean and have recruited respected citizens and students.

    Why wouldn't you want winning players like Hansbrough, Russell Westbrook, Brandon Rush and Kyle Singler? All were top recruits that will play or are playing in the NBA, and all were model citizens and winners in college. What is so bad about that dude?

  • BGleas

    Ok, dude…I guess winning is of no importance to you. Hey, i have an idea dude, how about we just make the basketball team a club sport instead of varsity?

    If we want to return to the prestige that IU basketball has had in the past, including Big Ten titles and National Championships then you need NBA quality players consistently coming into your program, especially big men.

    I don't know why there is this misconception that winning in college basketball today and recruiting top high school players means selling youself to the devil and recruiting drug adicts that can read. Look at UNC, Duke, UCLA and Kansas. All very successful program over the last decade and longer and for the most part all those program are clean and have recruited respected citizens and students.

    Why wouldn't you want winning players like Hansbrough, Russell Westbrook, Brandon Rush and Kyle Singler? All were top recruits that will play or are playing in the NBA, and all were model citizens and winners in college. What is so bad about that dude?

  • BGleas

    Ok, dude…I guess winning is of no importance to you. Hey, i have an idea dude, how about we just make the basketball team a club sport instead of varsity?

    If we want to return to the prestige that IU basketball has had in the past, including Big Ten titles and National Championships then you need NBA quality players consistently coming into your program, especially big men.

    I don't know why there is this misconception that winning in college basketball today and recruiting top high school players means selling youself to the devil and recruiting drug adicts that can read. Look at UNC, Duke, UCLA and Kansas. All very successful program over the last decade and longer and for the most part all those program are clean and have recruited respected citizens and students.

    Why wouldn't you want winning players like Hansbrough, Russell Westbrook, Brandon Rush and Kyle Singler? All were top recruits that will play or are playing in the NBA, and all were model citizens and winners in college. What is so bad about that dude?

  • BGleas

    Ok, dude…I guess winning is of no importance to you. Hey, i have an idea dude, how about we just make the basketball team a club sport instead of varsity?

    If we want to return to the prestige that IU basketball has had in the past, including Big Ten titles and National Championships then you need NBA quality players consistently coming into your program, especially big men.

    I don't know why there is this misconception that winning in college basketball today and recruiting top high school players means selling youself to the devil and recruiting drug adicts that can read. Look at UNC, Duke, UCLA and Kansas. All very successful program over the last decade and longer and for the most part all those program are clean and have recruited respected citizens and students.

    Why wouldn't you want winning players like Hansbrough, Russell Westbrook, Brandon Rush and Kyle Singler? All were top recruits that will play or are playing in the NBA, and all were model citizens and winners in college. What is so bad about that dude?

  • BGleas

    Ok, dude…I guess winning is of no importance to you. Hey, i have an idea dude, how about we just make the basketball team a club sport instead of varsity?

    If we want to return to the prestige that IU basketball has had in the past, including Big Ten titles and National Championships then you need NBA quality players consistently coming into your program, especially big men.

    I don't know why there is this misconception that winning in college basketball today and recruiting top high school players means selling youself to the devil and recruiting drug adicts that can read. Look at UNC, Duke, UCLA and Kansas. All very successful program over the last decade and longer and for the most part all those program are clean and have recruited respected citizens and students.

    Why wouldn't you want winning players like Hansbrough, Russell Westbrook, Brandon Rush and Kyle Singler? All were top recruits that will play or are playing in the NBA, and all were model citizens and winners in college. What is so bad about that dude?

  • BGleas

    Ok, dude…I guess winning is of no importance to you. Hey, i have an idea dude, how about we just make the basketball team a club sport instead of varsity?

    If we want to return to the prestige that IU basketball has had in the past, including Big Ten titles and National Championships then you need NBA quality players consistently coming into your program, especially big men.

    I don't know why there is this misconception that winning in college basketball today and recruiting top high school players means selling youself to the devil and recruiting drug adicts that can read. Look at UNC, Duke, UCLA and Kansas. All very successful program over the last decade and longer and for the most part all those program are clean and have recruited respected citizens and students.

    Why wouldn't you want winning players like Hansbrough, Russell Westbrook, Brandon Rush and Kyle Singler? All were top recruits that will play or are playing in the NBA, and all were model citizens and winners in college. What is so bad about that dude?

  • BGleas

    Ok, dude…I guess winning is of no importance to you. Hey, i have an idea dude, how about we just make the basketball team a club sport instead of varsity?

    If we want to return to the prestige that IU basketball has had in the past, including Big Ten titles and National Championships then you need NBA quality players consistently coming into your program, especially big men.

    I don't know why there is this misconception that winning in college basketball today and recruiting top high school players means selling youself to the devil and recruiting drug adicts that can read. Look at UNC, Duke, UCLA and Kansas. All very successful program over the last decade and longer and for the most part all those program are clean and have recruited respected citizens and students.

    Why wouldn't you want winning players like Hansbrough, Russell Westbrook, Brandon Rush and Kyle Singler? All were top recruits that will play or are playing in the NBA, and all were model citizens and winners in college. What is so bad about that dude?