Video: Robert Phinisee adidas Summer Championships highlights

  • 09/15/2017 9:48 am in

Class of 2018 McCutcheon and Indiana Elite point guard Robert Phinisee is a four-star prospect nationally according to the 247Composite and was named a core Indiana junior all-star this past spring.

Phinisee committed to the Hoosiers last month and was the third top 100 recruit to join IU’s 2018 recruiting class. We’ve compiled more than two minutes of video from his play in July at the adidas Summer Championships in Las Vegas, which is available below:

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  • sarge

    But this is the exact reason you shouldn’t place much stock in rankings. Yogi played for a better high school and aau squad and got more recognition nationally because of it. He does many things well that remind me of Yogi in high school and what about dunking it with two hands and making it look easy? Yogi had great vision, and I think RP can work on that part of his game, especially when comparing him to YF. But I don’t think there is a huge difference in their game like you or their “ranking” suggest.

  • sarge

    Speed kills too! It is hard to have that great quickness and speed with length too. It is all about managing your roster pieces, which we didn’t do well against Syracuse in that game.

  • marcusgresham

    Newkirk has to find that happy medium between the plodding Pittsburgh offense he came from and the more reckless style from last year (although he definitely got better as the year went on.)

  • Ole Man

    Yogi was a McDonald’s AA or close to it.
    This kid is nowhere near it.
    I like RP, a lot, but the is nowhere near what Yogi was as a freshman.
    And may not get to what Yogi was as a Senior.
    Let’s let him be Bobby P instead of placing impossible projections upon him.

  • Outoftheloop

    Not really that big of a difference, it depends on the “kid”! Watford and Creek were # 40-60 playing KY with 5 top 10’s. Mo Creek was the glowing freshman star of the game, hands down!

  • Ole Man

    One game. They’re talking about a season and possibly a career.

  • Outoftheloop

    I agree that Rob plays “taller and longer” than 5’11-6’0. “Tougher” is in the heart and can not be “ranked”!

  • Outoftheloop

    Because of injuries, that one game was Mo Creek’s career. The point on ranking uncertainties from 21-100 remains.

  • Outoftheloop

    But Will struggled with FG % on both 2’s and 3’s (and still does or he would be playing in the NBA).

  • sarge

    I am not placing any projection on him, just saying I don’t see much difference in talent. They are both phenomenal pg’s from this great state. Just because YF garnered more high school recognition doesn’t mean he was better than RP has been or will be. Most people agree RP is undervalued who have seen him play. And if he is undervalued and still top 100, how close will his final rating be to Yogi’s by the end of the upcoming season? I love YF and I am not trying to take anything away from his accomplishments at any level of his great career. I do think RP might have a higher upside in terms of potential, which is why I love him commiting.

  • sarge

    I agree, it’s impossible to place rank on recruits precisely. Besides the top 5 or 10 everyone knows are unreal talents and will make the league someday. You don’t see enough regular head to head competition amongst them to make it accurate. Not to mention some, like Clifton Moore, who many don’t see because of the teams they are with and the circuits they play in. It’s not a science.

  • bball at nick’s

    He will be better than Yogi by the time he’s done, in part because he will be better coached.

  • HoosierDom

    Go back and watch Yogi’s old highlight videos. He bounced around like Barry Sanders and was far quicker than anyone else on the court. Concerns about how his height would translate to the next level probably hurt his ranking, but he was still 80 or so spots higher than Phinisee. I have seen nothing from Phinisee that is remotely comparable. He could be a terrific player, but shortish and IU are all the similarities I see.

  • bball at nick’s

    I see mythologies starting to form! There is no evidence that Archie will play a slower game. Good defense does not mean slow game. In fact, it can mean faster game when it comes to deflections and the quick transition. If you all recall, in his introductory week/speech Archie explained that he intends to play the same fast game that we presumably played and espoused. No one wants to be the Wisconsin of old, not even Wisconsin. It’s not entertaining nor is it sexy, lol.

  • sarge

    Just watched several YF senior year highlights from high school. Yogi is very quick, but I still stand by my previous post. RP is underrated, and still has his senior year ahead of him. They aren’t the same player, but I am just as excited about RP as I was about YF committing.

  • IULore

    Right, Archies teams always play fast.

  • bball at nick’s

    But not faster than your tongue.

  • IULore

    What?!?

  • bball at nick’s

    If Yogi’s claim to fame was his quickness, then he doesn’t deserve the hype, nor the comparison to Phinisee.

  • TomJameson

    Kind of what I said Arch, by his second year (as time goes on). 🙂

    I’m not really doubting RP’s abilities or toughness, only that it’s a huge step to going from the defensive prowess of HS, to the best-of-the-best defensive players on a D1 team. They’ll be a lot bigger, faster, and tougher than anything he’s faced yet. Except for the really, truly, elite … the freshman year is generally an adjustment period.

  • Mark Johnson

    This is a great pick up. Go IU!!! Can’t wait for the season to start.

  • I believe Dayton’s and IU’s offensive tempo ratings were almost identical the last several years. And a quick glance at available info on Archie’s systems shows that he emphasizes scoring in transition when possible, but then settling into a pretty traditional motion offense in the half court. Having a kid like Phinisee who apparently is great at leading the break will be huge.

  • I’ll put it this way: I think Yogi would be an even more amazing player if he’d been coached by Archie for four years in running Archie’s offense. Archie not only played PG successfully at a D1 level, but he played PG successfully at a D1 level as an undersized player. I’m not sure that can elevate Phinisee past Yogi as an individual player, but it could certainly mean that Phinisee becomes a more effective player in terms of running the offense — which means, more effective at running Archie’s offense than Yogi was (consistently) at running Crean’s offense. That could very well mean banner #6, which would put Phinisee in a different place relative to Yogi.