Team Final forward Louis King talks Indiana scholarship offer

  • 05/01/2017 8:17 am in

WESTFIELD, Ind. – Indiana’s recruitment of one of the top forwards in the class of 2018 is heating back up after the recent coaching change in Bloomington.

The previous coaching staff offered a scholarship to Hudson Catholic (N.J.) and Team Final forward Louis King and that offer was reaffirmed following the first Nike Elite Youth Basketball League (EYBL) session in Hampton, Virginia.

King, a four-star prospect and the No. 26 player nationally according to the 247Composite, said on Saturday that the new coaching staff is making him a priority.

“Their message to me was that I could really fit into their program and that it’s a great fit for me,” King said. “And that I would be capable of getting to the NBA.”

Through seven games on the EYBL circuit, King is averaging 17.7 points, 6.3 rebounds and 2.2 assists per game. It’s his first time playing in the EYBL after competing previously on the Under Armour Association circuit.

When discussing his recruitment and what he’s looking for in a school, King doesn’t try to hide what’s important: He wants to play in the NBA.

Getting him to the next level is a part of the new coaching staff’s recruiting pitch.

“Basically he (Archie Miller) said it’s a good fit,” King explained. “I can just come in right away and start, get shots up and be able to get to the NBA.”

The 6-foot-8, 205 pound forward has a close mentor who will be able to tell him plenty about life in the NBA and what it takes to get there in just a couple of months.

Josh Jackson, who played last season at Kansas and is expected to be a top five pick in June’s NBA draft, is someone King speaks with regularly.

“I’m in contact with him almost every day,” King said. “I’ve had a relationship with him since freshman year when we were on the Under Armour circuit. And ever since then, we’ve been close. His advice to me is to not give up. Just keep pushing.”

Beyond the Indiana interest, King mentioned Seton Hall, UCLA, Duke, Kentucky, Oregon and Syracuse as just a few of the schools coming hard in his recruitment.

Three schools that haven’t offered – Kentucky, Duke and North Carolina – are all waiting to evaluate him this spring and summer as he navigates the EYBL circuit for the first time.

King, who said he works out at least three times a week when he’s not playing in an event and also lifts twice a week, has a few things he’s focusing on developing before he arrives in college.

“The thing I’ve got to work on is my physicality,” he said. “And then my handle. Because it’s starting to get to the point where I’m having to push the ball, get guys open and get shots off the dribble.”

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  • BannerOrBust

    I don’t know, but Archie is out there recruiting them boys… I love it! Keep it up!

    ON A SIDE NOTE: I’m extremely disappointed to hear that Crean never recruited or reached out to Trendon Watford…. That put things more into perspective about him.

  • Indiana_Banners

    I feel like a lot of fans hate when recruits talk about the NBA but IMO it’s a good thing. This is a kid that is serious about getting better and he seems to seek out advice as to how to perform the work necessary. Lots of kids in this age range haven’t yet locked on or begun to figure out how hard you have to work to achieve in this world. I certainly wouldn’t mind seeing him applying that work ethic to his craft in Bloomington for a year or three.

  • Indiana_Banners

    Crean has not said a bad word about Indiana since he left. I don’t think it’d be too much to ask for fans to extend him the same courtesy. He doesn’t impact our program any longer. Sadly I feel like Illinois fans have been more gracious towards John Groce and he left their program in far worse shape.

  • BannerOrBust

    I never said a bad word about Crean. I said I was disappointed he didn’t reach out to Watford. What’s wrong with that? Every Hoosier should feel slighted that one of the best players in the country, whose brother played for IU was never reached out to or recruited. How do you think CWAT took that? Give me a break man, Happy Trolling this morning.

  • zenthias

    We aren’t allowed to criticize He-who-must-not-be-named, even if it is valid criticism.

  • Rick Pearson

    I hadn’t been closely following Watford’s brother but it was really good to see Oladipo standing there and I Indiana Jersey or shirt Archie Miller and I believe one other assistant along with Christian go get him Archie

  • Rick Pearson

    I really hadn’t been following Christian younger brother I’ve been busy but to see Oladipo there in a Indiana shirt Christian Archie and I believe another assistant that just really should be encouraging so go get him Archie

  • Indiana_Banners

    You’re allowed to be as tacky as you wish, however people may criticize that sort of behavior. Obviously you shouldn’t criticize others if you’re too sensitive to handle criticism yourself.

  • inLinE6

    For all the fairness, he wasn’t actively recruiting any 2019 prospects back then, not just Trendon.

  • Indiana_Banners

    Most coaches weren’t but that won’t stop those members of our fan base that want to take parting shots for reasons unbeknownst to myself.

  • inLinE6

    I think Indiana_Banners was referring to your last statement – “That put things more into perspective about him”. I don’t know what perspective you were talking about. When Crean threw out early offers to Trey Lyles, Colin Hartman, Devin Davis, he got criticized because Lyles decommitted, Hartman and Davis were not highly ranked (although they were both ranked in ESPN top 25 as HS freshman when they were offered). And when he stopped early offers, he’s still criticized, or, disappointed people for not getting in early enough.

  • inLinE6

    Smaller than Christian but much more skilled in my opinion. He’s a consensus 5-star.

  • TomJameson

    First of all, how the devil can you be the 26th nationally rated player in your class, and still be a four star? Lucky I don’t pay too much attention to stars. 🙂

    Kensucky’s Calicheaty has always said that he doesn’t have to offer early, he can wait until the last minute, or just wait for the recruit to contact him. Yeah, I know, very modest speaking. But, I guess it’s not arrogance if it’s true. 🙁

  • TomJameson

    Pretty sure Crean reached out to Trendon, just never made an offer. I’ve not understood that either, but I don’t know if it puts anything into perspective about Crean.

    I’m not jumping your behind, Banner, I just don’t think it’s fair because we don’t know the whole story … hell, we don’t even know much of anything about what was going on behind the scenes. It could all be on Trendon just not wanting to follow his brother’s line and wanting to make his own story.

    Point is, we just don’t know enough about it, so it really doesn’t put much perspective about Crean at all.

  • VAHoosier

    There is a middle ground. We all want confident, motivated recruits. But we also want guys who are going to love Indiana and be committed to the program even after making millions. We don’t want guys who view IU as just a stepping stone.

  • VOXAC30

    To me it is apparent (I’m a late accepting it) how that CAM is recruiting Big Bodied kids. As opposed to CTC who liked tall lanky kids. It will be interesting how our current guys transition from the CTC environment to the CAM environment. I am liking this new approach.

    It will certainly be fun to watch the transition.

  • Indiana_Banners

    It’s fair to want that, but IMO that isn’t the true middle ground from what I’ve seen. It seems to me like most OAD players DO maintain a relationship with the program they came through, at least from what I can tell of Duke and Kentucky’s guys. It’s not something I follow super closely but it seems to me that guys like Daniel Orton or Ben Simmons are the exceptions rather than the rule.

  • AndyCapp

    Just because you don’t like some of the fan bases’s post-Crean-at-IU treatment doesn’t mean they are attacking the man or that their opinion is “tacky”. It’s pretty easy to criticize your behavior too when you make things personal just because you don’t agree with it.

  • just a fan

    When you have a brother who is famous for a shot fans equal to Keith Smart’s NCAA winner, you KNOW you’re going to be welcomed in Bloomington.

  • who’syourhoosier

    Aren’t all colleges stepping stones? Nobody goes to college and says, well I made it, now I’m done. The whole point of going is to prepare you for a career. This guy is an athlete and wants basketball to be his profession. So, yeah I want him on the team. Hopefully IU will be his stepping stone towards a great career of his choice, basketball or otherwise.

  • iugradmark

    I suspect his comments are just being a kid and not yet being over rehearsed. I hear what you are saying. I think as long as Indiana does their part (makes sure he focuses on his academics, goes to class, etc.) things will be fine. Lots of these kids have been told for a while how great they are. Some will surely succeed but most do not make it to the League. If he comes to IU, I know that the program will make sure he gets the most out of his time. If he is able to make the leap he will, if not, he can be a wonderful player and good student.

    My reading is that Archie is honest with the recruits. He tells them how hard he will work them and I am sure talks about the quality of the University. If they come, they should know expectations. Let’s hope we can land a few of these guys.

  • who’syourhoosier

    Not sure where to post this question, so I’ll ask it here. Is there a noticeable difference in the officiating in the A10 compared to the B1G? I’m far from concerned, but still wondering if there will be a learning curve involved for Coach Miller, especially considering his style of play. I know he has been to the tourney and won games, which is why I’m not concerned, simply curious. I think what I’m really asking is, if there a big difference when changing conferences as a coach? I am supremely confident that CM will excel regardless.

  • VAHoosier

    Slow your roll. I made no observations about the recruit who is the subject of this article. All I know about him is what is in this article; as far as I know, he would be a fine addition to IU Basketball. I was merely weighing in on the familiar debate about the desirability of one-and-dones.

    Colleges are more than stepping stones (although they are that, too). I might ask why are you even a fan of IU basketball, if not because you view IU as something more than simply a means to a career (assuming you attended IU). In other words, we can take pride in and remain committed to our school, or we can view it as “just” a stepping stone. My point is to suggest that the former is more desirable in a player than the latter.

  • VAHoosier

    Sure, I agree with all of that.

  • PBzeer

    Not certain, but I think only the top 25 get 5 stars.

  • John D Murphy

    It is based on rating. On ESPN, anyone with a rating of 90+ is a five star while 89 and down (to?) is a four star. Some classes are deeper than others which is supposed to be more longitudinally objective (on a subjective measure…go figure). ESPN currently lists 24 5-star players in 2018 but at least 25 (they only list the top 25) in 2019.

  • John D Murphy

    Agree. On of our last OADs Eric Gordon was a pretty focal proponent for TC for some time and then stopped. I don’t if it was the Evan playing for TC, TC’s recruitment of Eron, or just a coincidence.

  • John D Murphy

    I think it is fair to offer observations and opinions of TC and his actions
    / record / style / behavior if it appropriate to a topic being discussed (as opposed to just for sport). I have also been impressed (but not surprised) by TC’s class toward IU since his firing. I don’t feel BannerOrBust said anything not relevant to the discussion or inappropriate in any way.

  • TomJameson

    Thanks John and PBzeer, I figured it was something like the ratings. Looks like 90+ always falls around 25 five stars total.

    Thanks for the info.

  • who’syourhoosier

    I graduated from IU and that is why I am a fan. I have literally watched every game I could since 96′.
    By the way nothing I said was personal towards you. Don’t pull this, I’m a true fan and your not crap. You apparently have a romanticized the college experience. Nothing wrong with that. I simply have a more pragmatic view. If a student comes to IU because of the excellent staff excellent facilities and because IU will help that person get to the next level, then I think that’s great. Even if they aren’t in love with the school. How is playing basketball at IU to get to the NBA any different than a student attending the business school to follow their dreams of owning a business or becoming a CEO? You want players who are passionate about IU before they even live on campus. Most likely those are only students from Indiana. I simply want the best team possible, even if that means they are all out of state players who’ve never even heard of the school. As long as they play hard representing themselves and the school in a positive manner, get them on the team. After they are here, they can meet their new best friends for life, meet their future wife and buy a T-shirt.

  • Outoftheloop

    One Championship is all he can point to with the best freshmen every year!

  • Outoftheloop

    That is simply not true! The HT had a story where Crean “intimated” that the “athletic department” did not support him!

  • Walton

    No thanks, he seems all about himself and getting to the NBA. “I can just come in right away and start, get shots up and be able to get to the NBA” – seriously??? We need team players who think about the team – you do that and you’re good enough then the NBA will follow. Team players only please.

  • VAHoosier

    Okay, first, I was asking about why you like IU to make the point that I hope our players feel an affinity to the school in the same sense that we do as fans. You chose to get an education there, and it certainly was a “stepping stone” in the sense that it hopefully propelled you into some successful career. But clearly it is something more to you than *just* another institution. I didn’t intend to question your fandom. Sorry if that was unclear.

    This is one of the things I really liked about Crean–he always harped about the tradition of the school. Archie has emphasized this, too. I happen to think that stuff’s important. IU basketball has a unique culture. To perpetuate that culture, the student athletes have to buy-in; they have to recognize that they are a part of something bigger than their own personal aspirations. In that sense, yes, I think choosing IU basketball is very different from choosing the Kelly School. I, too, want the best team possible, but the best possible team would embrace and perpetuate the program’s tradition and culture.

    And, no, I don’t expect them to be “passionate” prior to recruitment. But I also don’t want them to be dismissive of the school and its tradition. Put it this way: all else being equal, I’m more drawn to a recruit who mentions IU’s tradition and its fanbase than I am to a recruit who mainly talks about playing time and getting to the NBA (and I don’t mean that as a shot at Louis King–he could be a great kid for all I know).

    I suppose that is a romantic view. I understand times have changed and these athletes don’t view the college game the way they used to. It is tough for old dudes like me to change with the times.

  • VAHoosier

    I think that’s exactly the middle ground I imagined. OAD’s are fine, but I’d rather avoid them if they simply view the school as a commodity and they’re involvement as a prolonged transaction. But if they buy-in, then bring them.

  • VAHoosier

    Hard to draw conclusions about this kid from just a few quotes, but I more or less agree with your principles. I said as much in a post below and met with some opposition, which I find interesting because the “team before self” concept is so central to the historical culture of IU basketball.

  • rob salway

    A) there is no consistency in officiating inside the B1G so no coach really knows what to expect fully. B) he was an assistant at OSU so he should know this going in.

  • who’syourhoosier

    No worries about the fan thing, one of the disadvantages of communication via the written word is the inability to hear ones tone. So yes, I misunderstood you. I too feel tradition and perpetuating the culture is tremendously important or else we end up like UK and I don’t want that at all. These values will be instilled in the players (even some of the one and dones). I believe a lot of that is on the coaching staff and the other players. Which is why, I feel we need at least a couple of high level in state players on the team. I believe it will help to instill the tradition of Indiana basketball.

    While I don’t think there will be a paradigm shift in the way recruits view college opportunities, I do believe that CM has the ability to create an environment where players will feel that they are a part of something bigger than themselves, being part of a team, a community. If you ask a sixteen year old “kid” who is one of the better players in the country, about his future in basketball, I would expect him to say that he really wants to focus on getting to the NBA. It’s the dream. While you may get sick to your stomach hearing it. Maybe after being a part of our program that player will develop a great appreciation for being a Hoosier. IU obviously has long standing tradition and culture. So much so, that I feel it may be difficult for new recruits to truly fathom what they will be a part of.

  • TomJameson

    Exactly. I think he’s underachieved with all that talent. The flip side of that coin is all the success he’s had in the NCAA with all those elite eights, final fours, NC games, plus that one NC. Think many IU fans would not be jealous of all that? lol

  • BannerOrBust

    Thanks Man! Appreciate the support.

  • BannerOrBust

    I wasn’t taking any shots… it was more mind-blowing than anything.

  • VOXAC30

    I am getting that vibe as well it just seems like that is the direction he is going.