President McRobbie: “This misbehavior simply has to stop”

  • 08/26/2015 4:49 pm in

Indiana President Michael McRobbie spoke Tuesday at an all-staff meeting for athletics and addressed conduct, competition and compliance.

The purpose of those remarks were for coaches to share with their respective student-athletes. A full transcript of what McRobbie had to say follows:

I expect that all of you will have noticed the announcement last week of a brilliant scientific result in paleobotany by an outstanding team of scientists led by Dr. David Dilcher of IU’s Department of Geological Sciences, where they seem to have identified the earliest form of ancient flowering plant life that emerged about 130 million years ago. This finding was published in one of the world’s most prestigious scientific publications, the Proceedings of the National Academies of Sciences.

This epochal result was applauded prominently in the media all over the world.

This is the sort of world-class achievement by our researchers with which I want to see Indiana University associated. I want to see the world-class accomplishments of our faculty and students celebrated, as well as the accomplishments of our student-athletes.

What I do not want to see is any more stories of repeated student misbehavior.

They embarrass the university, they embarrass all of you in Athletics, and they are a complete distraction from our primary role as an educational institution.

This misbehavior simply has to stop.

I expect all of you to ensure that my message is heard loud and clear by all student athletes.

I have stressed repeatedly that our student-athletes are first and foremost students!
Our ultimate goal is to help them obtain a degree that will prepare them for career and life success.

We owe this to them.

COMPETITION, CONDUCT, AND COMPLIANCE
As Hoosiers, we want to win—but win the right way, and with student athletes we can be proud of.

We expect our student-athletes to win with good sportsmanship but without sacrificing their education and without shortcuts.

As always—compliance with all NCAA, Big Ten, and Indiana University rules and policies by all coaches, student-athletes, and staff is crucial, and we will remain vigilant at every level to ensure we follow the rules.

As I have said to this group on numerous occasions, the love of sport must never sacrifice integrity.

Our student-athletes act as role models for students across campus and representatives of IU to the world beyond. They should embody Hoosier values of hard work, dignity, and respect.

All of us must play by the rules, whether those of the law or those of the game, whether we agree with the call or not, whether competition brings victory or defeat.

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  • Casey

    Did you read my post? Did it say he was at fault in the accident? Or was the point of it was that he was driving with alcohol in his system? Hope this helps

  • Kyl470

    Just so I understand your point you are trying to make. You are basically saying the players did nothing wrong. Is that right or am I missing something? Because if you feel the players did nothing wrong then I guess we will agree to disagree.

  • oldiugymnast

    That is one hell of a leap! Certainly never said that. Your response is hyperbolic and frankly coach should handle it withou your, mine or anyone else unrelated to the program’s help. And no, being a fan does not give you a say.

  • KDHOOSIER83

    I understand what you’re saying, I guess what I mean in the context of the targeting was that I’m sure this stuff happens elsewhere, it just is handled in private, like in the principal’s office, not publicly announced… targeting meaning police force making name for themselves by going public or making sure it gets publicized for whatever anti IU agenda they may have.

    Just a strange trend and maybe it is the players, but like others have said, stuff happened to players in the past and we (public) got wind of a few things, not everything, not this frequent…
    Are we the only ones recruiting this type player? I doubt it.
    Anyway, hope the team finds a leader and they get a wake up call and understand the real team concept, long overdue.

  • VAHoosier

    Regarding #1: Yes, I put that rather badly. What I meant was simply that the officer observed conduct that gave rise to a reasonable suspicion of illegal conduct, which is all that is required for an investigatory detention. I should not have said “observed illegal conduct,” but this is a discussion forum about IU basketball and I have tried not to turn it into a law school forum.

    Regarding #2: The law allows the officer to identify all of the individuals associated with the possible offense. If they cannot produce an ID or otherwise identify themselves, he is in most states entitled to detain them in order to complete an “identification booking” back at the police station.

    Regarding #3: See #1 above.

    Regarding #4: The standard for an investigative detention under Terry v. Ohio is “reasonable articulable suspicion.” It is actually not as vague as it sounds (though like most legal terms of art it is not terribly precise, either). It is applied only in the narrow context of investigative stops; for arrests and full-blown searches, the standard is “probable cause,” and these usually (but not always) must be supported by a warrant.

    Regarding #5: Sovereign immunity protects all state agents, police or otherwise, acting in the course of their duties, provided they are not acting recklessly (another legal term of art). However, the doctrine of sovereign immunity is more or less a creature of state law, having been abrogated in some states by statute. In my state, you simply can’t sue the gov’t, but I admit I don’t know the rules in Indiana.

  • VAHoosier

    Very kind of you to say so. I’m a bit of a libertarian, so my principles are in constant tension with the requirements of my job… being as how I represent “the man” and all…

  • Indiana_Banners

    Lol actually it DOES matter if citizens disagree with the law… that’s one of the ways laws get changed. That’s why states around the country are decriminalizing, legalizing… maybe look into Civics 101?

  • INUnivHoosier

    Here is why people don’t take you seriously:

    1) You are consistently hyperbolic.
    2) You bring in completely separate issues to argue a point. For example, I say that having zero tolerance policies for the players is bad because it takes discretion out of the situation. You say that Coach Crean stinks. The two have nothing to do with one another. If you don’t like the coach, work to get rid of the coach; don’t take it out on the players.

    Maybe, just maybe, if you keep running your mouth about how much you hate the coach and how mediocre the program is as often as possible on ITH, they’ll fire Crean.

    Wait, I just checked; it’s not going to happen. Not wanting to participate in your Debbie downer diatribes does not make me happy about the situation.

  • INUnivHoosier

    I said “aggravating factors aren’t illegal.” What I intended to say, but did not, is that by something simply being an aggravating factor doesn’t make it illegal.

    Some things that are aggravating are illegal in and of themselves. Something that isn’t illegal doesn’t become illegal because it is an aggravating factor,

  • eville87

    Good morning to you too. Here is where it all connects. The coach is responsible for the players. Watch his latest video. He is right that ultimately it’s on him. I could care less what you thint of my posts. I do care about Indiana basketball being relevant again. It’s my opinion that the coach has had little to no control of his players. There are to many incidents to list. As I have said I think Tom Crean is a great guy and a nice person. I just don’t think he is the coach we need to get to the next level? Do you really think the players respect him? Fear him? Do you think they care about the name on the front of the jersey? Did they in 1993?

  • INUnivHoosier

    I don’t disagree that the coach is responsible for the players. I was talking about zero tolerance policies, specifically for the IU players.

    So, you think that because the coach stinks, the players should be punished? Is that what you’re saying? That’s basically the only thing I can gather from your continued rants about Tom Crean in response to commentary about a zero tolerance policy for his players.

    “I hate Coach Crean, and I want him fired. Here are the reasons: X, Y, and Z. Since the administration won’t fire him, they should make sure to institute policies to harshly punish the players for any wrongdoing. This will get Tom Crean fired. Sure, it might also burn down the program by drying up recruiting, but I’m more concerned about ruining Tom Crean.”

    That’s what I hear. Don’t get your thoughts twisted; I’m not on the CTC bandwagon. There are things I like, and there are things I don’t like. If the right situation were to arise, I’d be in favor of replacing him.

    But that has nothing to do with what I was talking about.

    Hope you have a nice morning.

  • eville87

    Thank you looking forward to the weekend. If we put a zero tolerance policy in place and the incidents keep occurring he will be done. I’m not trying to ruin Tom he has made 24 million dollars I think he will be ok. He would be a great coach at a mid major where expectations are not as high. I’m just sick and tired of being mediocre. I’m sick and tired of Indiana basketball being in the news for the wrong reasons. We’re we at one time not better that this? It starts at the top as far as responsibility. . Have a good weekend!!

  • TomJameson

    SOWRONG … you make no sense at all. “well littered with cops…” my a$$.

    I really doubt that the 5 in the car went to a liquor store and said Hey, lets go to that one, there’s 30 cops standing around, so we’ll be safe while we get our liquor!

  • Kyl470

    Wait CTC doesn’t check the ITH comments section before deciding player discipline. Why didn’t someone tell me this sooner?

  • Kyl470

    You are completely off base. While a law is in effect people have to follow it or their are consequences. If you are driving 60 MPH in a 50 MPH zone and a cop pulls you over and gives you a ticket you can’t just say that you don’t agree with the speed limit so you shouldn’t get a ticket. At the same time if a year later they raise the speed limit to 60 MPH you can’t go back and say that you shouldn’t have got that ticket because later on they changed the speed limit. As of today being under 21 and drinking or possessing alcohol is illegal regardless of what everyone’s personal feelings are about the law.

  • IUMIKE1

    Wasn’t debating whether or not he had any, albeit an extremely small amount, of alcohol in his system. I just get tired of people stating that he was drunk and “ran over” his teammate and act as if there was something, anything, he could have done to prevent it, cause there wasn’t anything he or anybody else in that particular situation could have done to prevent it.

  • IUMIKE1

    To use “your” example; A good deal of the time when a cop pulls someone over under those circumstances it results in it ending in way where, a warning is issued rather than an actual ticket, it isn’t publicized, no harm comes to that person’s record, the cop basically does it to let the person know that they need to start driving that stretch of road differently, etc etc

  • IUMIKE1

    BOOM ! Cue the proverbial rim shot. lol

  • IUMIKE1

    LOL Really good comment, but something tells me that he/she isn’t on a high enough intelligent level to be able to comprehend the point that you were making.

  • IUMIKE1

    While I see nothing wrong with the general premise of what you suggest, some of the details that you recommend are a little over the top IMHO. Chaperons for all outings !? REALLY !? THAT is NOT going to happen and shouldn’t. These are not athletes that need a minder so that they can be stopped if they try to defect to a Western democracy. Tight control of autos and even control over access to autos. Visual phone check ups every night at 11 PM ? I could see having a system, where if there was a building like you describe, each player would need some kind of a badge that they had to swipe to get in our out, that recorded the date and time of each entry and exit, and there be video of that action, and only that action, being recorded. The auto and visual check up aspects are not going to happen and never should as well. I don’t know what you consider “many” to be, but just one of those three things are enough to have 95 % of the high caliber players not even giving us a second thought, let alone all three and/ or more restrictions. I can totally understand that too, I wouldn’t either if I was them. What 18 year old, or any person old enough to have a driver’s license for matter, is going to be ok with a chaperone going on a date with them and it is not at all out of the ordinary for a date that is as simple as dinner and a movie to not be done until after 11 PM.

  • IUMIKE1

    Those schmoes….THAT must be those fall guys that Cris Carter was talking about. Have been wondering where those guys were located ever since he mentioned them. The Big Blue Cesspool should have been the first place I thought of any way. What the hell has gotten in to me. smh

  • IUMIKE1

    I wouldn’t boycott it, even though I think doing that would be totally unfair to EH, but I damn sure would have a whole lot different outlook and view of it and it would heavily influence how I viewed future decisions.

  • IUMIKE1

    Sampson era all over again ?! Really ?! It’s the ole apples to oranges thing on that. Dude, I have given you the benefit of the doubt, big big time, up till that one. What little bit of credibility you might have had left just got wiped off the board by that one.

  • IUMIKE1

    I’m telling ya, words with more than 6 or 7 letters, not getting through to him. Probably gonna have to gear responses to him more along the line of, see Spot run, run Spot run. On the flip side I have rather enjoyed seeing you lay it out there to him in the way you have, even if the simpleton that he seems to be, can’t grasp the bulk of it. lol

  • IUMIKE1

    Have an attorney that is a friend and that also teaches a class attended by prospective future attorneys. He allowed me to sit in one of his classes once and they were discussing being pulled over and different scenarios of what could happen after that and how things were handled from that point on were handled affected the eventual outcome of any eventual prosecution. Without going into a lot of details about each scenario, one thing was common among all of them, and that was that you never voluntarily consent to your vehicle being searched and that by not consenting to it affected what ended up happening in a large way if the cop goes ahead and searches it any way, and even if he holds you until he gets a search warrant.

  • IUMIKE1

    Bravo, very well put my friend, very well put !! I find not one word that I disagree with.

  • IUMIKE1

    It isn’t hard to understand how that authoritarian bend got there when we look at who put certain judges on the Supreme Court, and how many they were able to seat, especially when we look at some of their previous rulings and opinions, is it ? Aggravates me to no end that more people don’t know or understand that whomever they elect as POTUS is going to be handing out lifetime jobs, which is totally wrong, to people that will have so much say over their daily lives for decades to come.

  • IUMIKE1

    I second the aspects that oldiugymnast mentions, especially the respect part. Not an attorney, but I did read all of the is legal, is not, comments. Interesting.

  • INUnivHoosier

    IU Basketball isn’t one of McRobbie’s main sources of income. The school had over $3 billion in revenue in FY14.

    The basketball team revenues are generally going to benefit athletics, which is a small part of the university. Donations are generally restricted to improvements to athletic facilities.

  • Smilinjayd

    The “Head Pecker” pun is brilliant use in context! I love it.

  • Smilinjayd

    You left out the part that he was just on his way back from a long day of serving at the retirement home and homeless shelter, and that he was hitchhiking a ride to church, and upon entry into the vehicle didn’t see the bottle, and that he was absolutely surprised it was full of alcohol, and that he was about to pour it out the window and excuse himself from the vehicle, when the excise officer noticed the candy-stripped pants and IU jersey and decided he could avenge all the years of being called a nerd and abused by finally “nailing the big one” that was going to make his career…

  • Smilinjayd

    Yeah, let’s do everything by popular opinion. That’s like 2 wolves and 1 sheep deciding what they are going to have for lunch. But hey, it’s what most of them wanted. Frame it any way you’d like, if you don’t like it, change it, Let’s just make every law based upon how people “feel” about it. Our country is rocketing downward as long as people let the “wants” rule over the “shoulds”.

  • Smilinjayd

    LOL, maybe look into CURRENT Indiana Civil Code?

  • Smilinjayd

    As our Hoosier Poet-Laureate John Mellencamp stated long ago, “I fought authority and authority always wins.” It’s one of the facts you have to face to become a functioning adult in our society.

  • Smilinjayd

    There are alive and well at many other college campuses. Univ. of FL has them everywhere. They hand out citations in large numbers. The stupid get caught, others find ways to not get caught or make decisions not to drink.

  • Smilinjayd

    Dang sir. it appears you are one angry man? Religious fervor? “Slaves” of the basketball team? Moral Superiority? “Pinched”? If you were a collegiate gymnast you certainly know the dedication, relentless effort, focus, discipline and sacrifices it took you to get to the level of collegiate athlete. At any time, you could have stepped off the train if you didn’t like where it was going. I wasn’t a collegiate athlete, but I did have enormous respect for those who’ve reached that level especially considering how many people start out with those dreams. Making sound decisions daily doesn’t exclude you from bad ones occasionally. There are a multitude of ways to have fun at IU that don’t include alcohol use. Unfortunately, EH simply has chosen not to take the path you did. Over the course of your life, you realize the “youthful exuberance” part becomes less important today in your overall happiness in life.

  • Casey

    The fact he made the decision to drink (any amount) and get behind the wheel is what most people have a problem with I think (especially since he was 18). For me or you to drink a beer and get behind the wheel with that amount of alcohol in our system isn’t illegal. For him it is.

    And he absolutely could have prevented the situation by not getting behind the wheel after drinking.

  • IUMIKE1

    If one chooses to look at the situation in that way then you could say that an infinite number of people, who had the facts bear out that they were not at fault when it comes to, did their actions “cause” an incident to happen, could have prevented something bad from happening if they had only done something different. A lot of people want to simply go by what is on the police report or what the police say, and in that regard he was absolved of any fault in the matter.

  • IUMIKE1

    Come on, don’t ask them to confuse everything with something as minor as the facts.

  • IUMIKE1

    Sexually transmitted disease epidemics? billions of abortions? greatly increased single parent families? greatly increased divorce rates? any number of sexual dysfunctions? I try really hard to see both sides of each person’s comments, but saying all those things are a direct result of the, quote, unquote, ” sexual revolution ” is really stretching rationality IMHO. I know this response doesn’t reflect what you stated in this comment, but for some reason it wouldn’t let me reply to the comment where you did state the above things.

  • IUMIKE1

    Then that would mean that technically, and the police are the champions of using the technicalities approach so it more than appropriately applies here, the vodka did not belong to either player, and since it had not been opened then, technically it could not be proven it belonged to either player. Simply having the liquor beside them, unopened, is not against the law.

  • IUMIKE1

    Ohhhhh, so is that what the shovel is used for ? (purple font)

  • IUMIKE1

    Exactly, he keeps talking about what the “facts” are, but with how events unfolded, the fact that none of us, including him, can factually state that they know for sure what their intentions were, the facts seem to become an unnecessary part of the conversation.

  • IUMIKE1

    How dare you do such a thing ! You hardened criminal types are why we must get more laws passed to be able to deal with your type and get your type behind bars where you so deservedly belong. Your type sir, is one of main reasons why this country has fallen into moral decay.

  • IUMIKE1

    Well put, or should I say, good translation !

  • IUMIKE1

    Once again, Holt DID NOT, “run over” DD, quit making it sound like he was driving one eye closed drunk and was in a state that kept him from being able to see him had he been in the road and thus enabling Holt to possibly be able to have, “run over him”. DD jumped out of the dark and into the side of the vehicle and Holt was absolved of ANY wrong doing when it came to DD’s injuries and who was at fault when it came to those injuries. No amount of sobriety is going to keep that kind of thing from happening. I’m not saying that I don’t think he had had a beer or less somewhere along the line earlier in the night or if he was underage or not, but rather the insinuation that he was legally drunk, or even remotely close to that, and that that was the cause of DD’s injuries and said injuries were a result of Holt “running him over”.

  • IMSKRONG

    They were holding it and trying to hide it.

  • Casey

    Not arguing if Holt was at fault. But his actions could of directly led to the prevention of the accident. It would be the same as saying a person who did drugs and died of an overdose could have prevented the overdose from happening. Your argument appears to be that his actions indirectly led to that accident. Similar to someone leaving work five minutes earlier than normal and being involved in an accident. The big difference is being able to associate whether the actions led directly or indirectly to the result.

  • IUMIKE1

    Not at all, maybe I did a bad job of laying it out. Since he did not have enough alcohol in his system for it to have been the reason the incident happened, none of his actions were directly responsible for what happened. The action of breaking an outdated stupid law, was in no way responsible for what happened to DD, in any way. Now if he had had more than that to drink than, yea, said action would have had a direct bearing on what happened. No amount of sobriety was going to enable any driver to keep DD from doing what he done. It wouldn’t have mattered if you, I, or ANY other completely sober person would have been driving, it wasn’t going to prevent DD from hiding, jumping out complete darkness into the side of the vehicle and causing his injuries.

  • IUMIKE1

    Simply holding an object does equate to being the owner of said object. The guy that buys it gets in the car and hands it to EH & TB and asks them to put it on the back floorboard. Cop walks by just as they are handed the bottles and are in the process of sitting them on the back floorboard, which would obviously leave no where for it to be but right by their legs. Putting it in their hand and sitting it down on the floorboard right as the cop comes by, technically does not automatically assure the cop that the bottles belonged to EH & TB. In reality did they belong to them, probably so, but only the people in the car at that time know for a fact who it belonged to. Holding it and/or doing something that resembled attempting to hide it is not exactly what I would call probable cause. Were they not IU bball players and had the money, I dare say that they could fight it and be absolved of any charges, but since they are it wouldn’t matter if they fought it and won or not, the public perception had already been made so now TC has to be politically correct and punish them as if they had done something a lot worse than what it ” appears ” they done.