President McRobbie: “This misbehavior simply has to stop”

  • 08/26/2015 4:49 pm in

Indiana President Michael McRobbie spoke Tuesday at an all-staff meeting for athletics and addressed conduct, competition and compliance.

The purpose of those remarks were for coaches to share with their respective student-athletes. A full transcript of what McRobbie had to say follows:

I expect that all of you will have noticed the announcement last week of a brilliant scientific result in paleobotany by an outstanding team of scientists led by Dr. David Dilcher of IU’s Department of Geological Sciences, where they seem to have identified the earliest form of ancient flowering plant life that emerged about 130 million years ago. This finding was published in one of the world’s most prestigious scientific publications, the Proceedings of the National Academies of Sciences.

This epochal result was applauded prominently in the media all over the world.

This is the sort of world-class achievement by our researchers with which I want to see Indiana University associated. I want to see the world-class accomplishments of our faculty and students celebrated, as well as the accomplishments of our student-athletes.

What I do not want to see is any more stories of repeated student misbehavior.

They embarrass the university, they embarrass all of you in Athletics, and they are a complete distraction from our primary role as an educational institution.

This misbehavior simply has to stop.

I expect all of you to ensure that my message is heard loud and clear by all student athletes.

I have stressed repeatedly that our student-athletes are first and foremost students!
Our ultimate goal is to help them obtain a degree that will prepare them for career and life success.

We owe this to them.

COMPETITION, CONDUCT, AND COMPLIANCE
As Hoosiers, we want to win—but win the right way, and with student athletes we can be proud of.

We expect our student-athletes to win with good sportsmanship but without sacrificing their education and without shortcuts.

As always—compliance with all NCAA, Big Ten, and Indiana University rules and policies by all coaches, student-athletes, and staff is crucial, and we will remain vigilant at every level to ensure we follow the rules.

As I have said to this group on numerous occasions, the love of sport must never sacrifice integrity.

Our student-athletes act as role models for students across campus and representatives of IU to the world beyond. They should embody Hoosier values of hard work, dignity, and respect.

All of us must play by the rules, whether those of the law or those of the game, whether we agree with the call or not, whether competition brings victory or defeat.

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  • oldiugymnast

    So your boring life (mine was more boring. All gym and no play and no beers until I was almost 22) means that is what everyone else must do?

  • oldiugymnast

    Full scholarship for an athlete is indentured servitude. It isn’t the fun and candy you suppose.

  • oldiugymnast

    I have no problem with his statements – but they should be equally directed to the purposeless overzealous cops.

  • oldiugymnast

    Wow – your lack of reasoning is stunning. Why do you think a frat house would be a safer place for them to be when almost all of the harm surrounding alcohol happens within the greek system. Please! Two “jugs” of booze? That may or may not have been theirs. I hope you didn’t take any classes like logic or philosophy at IU or the educational standards have dropped precipitously.

  • oldiugymnast

    Good choice. Couple of ice cubes or neat.

  • David Macer

    Hey Forever, don’t let the troll get you down. Best thing you can do is ignore him/her. Continued conversation just gets them going.

  • VAHoosier

    In fairness, I think the police action in this case would have withstood constitutional scrutiny in virtually any era of the 20th century. The vehicle exception to the Fourth Amendment’s warrant requirement dates back to at least 1925 (Carroll v. United States). But I can’t disagree that this is not a good use of state resources. Police have in general become very bad at exercising discretion. I’m a prosecutor, and most of the officers in my community are pretty squared-away and demonstrate good common-sense, but there are a few who think they get paid by the ticket or by the warrant, and still a few others who are just plain a55holes. They are just people, at the end of the day, and can be jerks like the rest of us, on occasion.

  • oldiugymnast

    I once saw Vitaly Sherbo drink all day, go to a meet, have a beer between each event and beat everyone in the world. Was that smart? Of course not. Did it kill him? Again of course not.

  • oldiugymnast

    Agree – but shouldn’t there also be some connection to the severity of the crime and the severity of the punishment. Again – this is where “authoritarian” comes from.

  • oldiugymnast

    On this I agree. But you also have called for Holt to be dismissed, which is absurd.

  • oldiugymnast

    I didn’t know that you were personally part of the program and had observed this lack of leadership or lack of action. Good to know.

  • ForeverIU

    Neat with the Glenmorangie. She has an ego and is the jealous type; she doesn’t like extra company, lol! Ice with my Famous Grouse though.

  • SeeingRed

    Do you think Crean gets a certain allotment of incidents per year going forward before folks above him conclude that he can’t solve this issue, so they will? How many? What does he get — three to four per season?

    I don’t see why this has to be so polarizing. He runs the program. That program exists within the framework of existing state laws and university rules. It matters not one little bit what we may think about those laws and rules — they are currently in place and if people want them changed, then people should get on about making that happen. Whining about “fairness” on a basketball forum after the laws and rules have been broken, in defense of the people that screwed up, is weak, indeed. Especially when those people have already screwed up before, and by all accounts are regularly counseled not to do it again.

    I may be of the opinion that pot should be legal, that the drinking age should be 18, and that excise cops are merely churning a deceitful money mill for the state of Indiana. But that doesn’t change what is.

  • IMSKRONG

    I never called for him to be dismissed.

  • IMSKRONG

    No. They can drink. But use some common sense.

  • ForeverIU

    LOL, thanks for the novel perspective!

  • Bk39

    go ahead and defend peeping toms. Personally I think it’s creepy.

  • ForeverIU

    ROFL LMBSO.

  • ForeverIU

    I tried to ignore him, but he keeps posting even if he’s talking to himself.

  • Outoftheloop

    You are wrong. It aggravates the underlying offense: assault (threatening harm), breach of the peace, disorderly conduct, etc. Each state has their own laws. Many municipalities also have their own laws/ordinances. This is also true of federal crimes, it raises the offense to a “hate crime”.

  • b_side

    Sorry you have to continually be the broken record. But it needs to be stated over and over for those looking to fit a certain narrative of Holt.

  • IMSKRONG

    These excise police deal with alcohol, tobacco and related cases.

  • Outoftheloop

    Exactly!

  • IMSKRONG

    You think it’s the polices fault and making excuses. They need to own up to it and take the consequences.

  • b_side

    Have a great idea. Create a google form. Post the link so all visitors can vote. See if “everyone” is thinking what you’re saying. If you’re right, pat on the back and big shiny up-vote. If you’re wrong…those who differ will say “I told you so”.

  • eville87

    Wish I could up vote 100 times.

  • eville87

    We are the laughing stock of big ten basketball. Can’t play defense crazy substitutions and can’t figure out a zone for 3 years running. On top of that what have we had 11 incidents in 14 months? When does the so called leader of the young men get held accountable. Is it because he is only making 3 million a year for mediocrity? I agree with boonville hoosier when is enough ……enough? Transfers galore. The movement turned into a bowel movement other than yogi…… who is at fault for that……

  • eville87

    I see a 10 game suspension or loss of a scholarship coming. We need him cause all the sudden we are thin in the post again due to Davis and Perea being booted.

  • oldiugymnast

    You know more about it than I do – and I have enormous respect for a DA that understands what you so clearly do about the creeping police state tactics. Well done sir. Makes me proud we attended the same institution of higher learning!

  • oldiugymnast

    I hear what you are saying but I strongly disagree. I don’t think that this is evidence that Crean doesn’t have a handle on things, but rather that the police are out of control. Furthermore, this was simple possession – I don’t think it qualifies for much more than a few game suspension at most. I am not saying that no punishment should be forthcoming – just that this is not an indication that Crean has lost his players or that the program is out of control. It is mostly some bad luck coupled with an overzealous enforcement regime.

    And sitting by and blaming Crean for what you know about pot, drinking and the cops – isn’t that horribly counter-productive? It seems to me – and I give you the benefit of the doubt on this – that there are a lot of fans who have unreasonable expectations after the Sampson mess – or who are mistakenly sure that Brad Stevens is clamoring to leave the NBA tomorrow – who are always willing to hang anything on Crean regardless of its accuracy.

  • b_side

    I would hope Holt would transfer before letting that happen. And I wouldn’t blame him at all. Still has to sit year in either scenario, but I don’t see him sticking around when the punishment doesn’t fit the crime.

  • oldiugymnast

    Thank you for so lucidly making my point. And why was there no citation for the store that apparently sold to minors? Look – we are using our CJ system to bludgeon good people and it’s immoral. But you are more worried about a guy trying to hide an unopened bottle of vodka on a Saturday Night. What a waste!

  • Ole Man

    Oh, baloney! If we’re a laughing stock it’s because we make mountains out of molehills.

  • SeeingRed

    Well, I’m not buying into a conspiracy theory that proposes the enforcement regime here is degrees of magnitude more intense than similar schools. IMO, that’s something fans repeat to make themselves feel better about it. What problem?? Not on us. It’s all the cops. If it is so bad, why do IU players constantly put themselves in utterly obvious situations? You would think they would be extra stealthy about partying since according to you and most here, they apparently live under marshall law … 🙂

    So since I reject your premise (as I am sure you do mine), I do believe the guy who runs this program is not doing this part of his job very well. I also think the boss of his boss has had enough.

  • IMSKRONG

    Who said they sold to minors. We don’t know about the other 3.

  • Casey

    Don’t have to be a program insider when game suspensions and disciplines are public knowledge. Nice try to be cute though.

  • Casey

    I really like Holt but his fault or not he was driving with alcohol in his system.

  • SeeingRed

    You’ve brought facts and reason to the forum. Prepare to be vilified, and worse, called a clandestine Purdue fan … 🙂

  • oldiugymnast

    Are you really such a child that you think the only tool a coach has to discipline a player is suspension or dismissal? Do you really think that it is your business how a coach decided to deal with things?

  • oldiugymnast

    Well – we must. Because either the c-store sold to a minor OR the other 3 gave alcohol to a minor and should have been arrested for contributing. This isn’t hard. Try to keep up.

  • IMSKRONG

    They may have let the other 3 go because they cooperated and wanted to let Holt and Bryant understand that they won’t be treated like kings and gave them a slap on the wrist. Holt and Bryant may have said it was their fault, cooperated fully and the other 3 were let go.

  • Outoftheloop

    Thank you for your very thoughtful response. However, there remain some soft spots in your argument: 1) You say that the excise officer “observed illegal behavior”. This is untrue. Holding or moving a bottle of Vodka, which is NOT an illegal object or an illegal act in any sense, is NOT an illegal act. “Concealing” is not an observation but a conclusion based upon so many unfounded assumptions that no honest trier of the facts would allow it. The sole observation possible is that a person of unknown age was moving a perfectly legal object within a car, none of which is an offense; 2) There is no right for an officer to require ID of a person doing nothing obviously illegal who is neither the owner nor operator of a parked car. Yes he can have them exit the car, but nothing else; 3) saying “the police are here” or words of that type is NOT a crime, nor is it evidence of a crime. As we have seen too many times now it is smart to alert any African-Americans of any age to the presence of police so that they can act carefully and in plain view so as NOT to trigger police misbehavior; 4) I appreciate your telling me that the legal standard is now “reasonable articulable suspicion” This was not the standard when I practiced criminal law. Which US Supreme Court case stated this as the rule? Or which Indiana case, or Indiana statute? I am unfamiliar with such a standard. It sounds a lot like a totally vague, ambiguous and meaningless string of words designed to hide “mere” suspicion, which is NOT allowable, as something reasonable justifying an illegal detention; 5) You should check on the actual hiring and training of “excise officers” in Indiana. Again my information is dated, but they were not police officers, had little or no police training, were in fact employees of the Alcohol Licensing department with extremely limited police-like authority (usually limited to detaining persons in establishments that served or sold alcohol) to check compliance with alcohol related restrictions. They did not have general or even broad police powers. The doctrine of sovereign immunity did not protect them in the few cases I brought against them for illegally posing as “police” outside of businesses that fall under the jurisdiction of alcohol regulation.
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  • Casey

    Not the only tool but the tool that performs the most work. My question to you would be do you think Crean’s lenient punishments (strictly referring to the childish suspension ones) have been effective? Also I never mentioned dismissals as I am a believer of allowing a young person to learn and grow from their mistakes. Dismissing a player is a last resort action.

    And as a fan of IU basketball it is most definitely my business how Crean decides to deal with these things as IU has a storied and proud history that does not need to be tarnished any more.

  • INUnivHoosier

    Don’t conflate the two issues. It’s nice that you are butt hurt about Crean being the coach, but that doesn’t have anything to do with zero tolerance for the players. You want Crean gone, and that’s fine; you aren’t alone. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.

  • INUnivHoosier

    Aggravating factors aren’t illegal. Municipal codes against hate speech have been struck down.

  • INUnivHoosier

    I didn’t say anything about the police in this instance.

  • eville87

    Ok your right I would like another coach. We’re not getting one anytime soon. I just wonder how many more incidents, transfers, switching of man to zone back to man in the middle of playing defense were gonna see? Or the patented subs at the same time in the first and second half? Or rings for a sweet 16 run?

  • eville87

    Or better yet let’s cut down nets after a home loss on senior night. You sir are entitled to accept mediocrity but I won’t especially when we have had the talent to win.

  • Oladipo4

    The official police statement even stated that EH had no fault in the accident, give it a rest.

  • Oladipo4

    I don’t want to hear a statement about winning and doing it with class from a President who clearly doesn’t know the winning culture of IU. To say that our athletes are an embarrassment is laughable. Last year the basketball team brought in 22.1 million dollars worth of revenue, the biggest moneymaker at the University. I wouldn’t call your source of income an embarrassment. I guarantee more students on campus know who the starting lineup is than who the president of the university is. Take a seat McRobbie, you’ve only been the president since 2007; it’s not like they’re tearing apart some legacy you created.