Around the Hall: Indy Pro AM, 2013 rankings, more

  • 07/01/2011 12:39 pm in

Around the Hall is recommended reading from the Inside the Hall crew. So go ahead, get your read on. (Photo credit: Jamie Owens of J. Scott Sports)

Our friend Hugh Kellenberger of The Herald-Times breaks down the action (with video) from last night’s Indy Pro AM league at IUPUI. Vigilant Sports also has some video from the event.

Scout.com released an updated top 100 for the class of 2013. Neither Collin Hartman or Devin Davis Jr. are ranked.

Nebraska is now officially a member of the Big Ten.

The pools and schedule are out for next week’s adidas Invitational in Indianapolis.

The players’ union wants a lower age limit for early entry into the NBA Draft.

Cody Zeller is the No. 10 recruit nationally in the final RSCI rankings, which aggregates the rankings from all of the major scouting services.

Kyle Neddenriep of the Indianapolis Star has a Q & A with Indianapolis Tech sophomore guard Jeremie Tyler, who is receiving interest from Indiana.

Michigan sophomore guard Tim Hardaway Jr. hit a game-winner for Team USA in the FIBA U19 World Championships.

The uncle of former Illinois forward Jereme Richmond tells the Chicago Tribune that his nephew was misled by Illini assistant coach Jerrance Howard. Richmond’s father, however, has no problem with Howard.

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  • Anonymous

    Looks like Purdue is doing in 2013 what IU has done in 2012.  A very strong class for them.  Will be good for the rivalry.

  • I think they should lower the age to be eligible for the NBA to 14.  That way college coaches and the NBA could fight over high school freshman. Most of the young players that go into the NBA now after one yr certainly function at about this level anyway…  Also enjoyed the Richmond story.  Kid thought he was entitled to be drafted into the NBA.  You would have thought that attending class at Illinois for one year would have at least taught him that 7 ppg does not equal a pro career. 

    Cody Zeller ranked at 10 seems reasonable.  Look at the rest of the list and there were a lot of targets we had on the radar listed. 

    Nebraska in the big ten should help with at least 4 wins – Northwestern, Penn st, Iowa, and Nebraska….hopefully we can finish at 500 in the BT next yr.  Victor is playing well from what I could see and eventhough I hate to put too much stock into the impact of a freshman – Cody fills a huge need and if he plays at only 50% of what is expected will help immensely.

  • marcusgresham

    I haven’t looked at it that closely, but from what I remember the ’13 class isn’t nearly as strong as the ’12 class is it?  (At least not in-state.)

    And by the way—-it feels good to be back.  My home computer was dead for about 2 weeks and the work laptop doesn’t have the proper flashplayer to be able to post.  Get ready for an overload of my smart aleck remarks to lessen my withdrawal symptoms.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    NBA players and NFL players are b****s!!!  Play ball you bunch of spoiled babies.  And the NBA and NFL owners are right there with them.  “How rich is rich enough”?

  • Kelin Blab

    I have a lot to say…

    + I am going to solve the NBA’s problem and make them alot of money too. Let the kids who want to come straight from H.S. come into the NBDL. It will help them mature for a year or two, they could sign a rookie contract, and help the NBDL attendance as well. Problem solved…

    + I am done with rankings. They are generally stupid and with no known formula. Having said that here are my rankings for the 2013 class nationally. 1. Devin Davis  2. Colin Hartmann I based this on they are both committed to my favorite team.

    + Kids sometimes you have to listen to yourself and look at history. Jerem you had NO shot at getting drafted.

    + Did I mention Victor Oladipo guards people. Just really enjoyed seeing that in a summer league game.

    + Congrats to me for having over 3000 comments…wow

  • Kelin Blab

    I have a lot to say…

    + I am going to solve the NBA’s problem and make them alot of money too. Let the kids who want to come straight from H.S. come into the NBDL. It will help them mature for a year or two, they could sign a rookie contract, and help the NBDL attendance as well. Problem solved…

    + I am done with rankings. They are generally stupid and with no known formula. Having said that here are my rankings for the 2013 class nationally. 1. Devin Davis  2. Colin Hartmann I based this on they are both committed to my favorite team.

    + Kids sometimes you have to listen to yourself and look at history. Jerem you had NO shot at getting drafted.

    + Did I mention Victor Oladipo guards people. Just really enjoyed seeing that in a summer league game.

    + Congrats to me for having over 3000 comments…wow

  • bluegrassHoosier

    Is it just me, or this the updates on Creek seldom and lacking in detail? He is such a talent and leader that he becomes such a wildcard a difference maker.

    It may be just me, but has anybody heard anything worthy of noting on Creek’s progress.
    He seems to be such a great young man, I hope the best for him as a person. And as I fan, I am selfishly hoping he returns to form.

  • Kelin Blab

    Didn’t know kids could do that in the NBDL. Great point. I would just like to know what rankings are based on?

  • bluegrassHoosier

    As for rankings, Kelin. Here are my thoughts.

    They make for really fun conversation and debate during the off-season. I love debating our 2012 class compared to Purdue’s 2013 class. I love trying to see if there really are 100 players better than Patterson in 2012 (are you serious?). etc

    But as a real long term barometer, I think it typically does little more than predict who will usually jump to the NBA the quickest.

    If a recruit comes in highly rated yet performs fair, at best, his reputation and ranking still allows him to go to the NBA quicker. (Daniel Orton from UK ring a bell?)

    If Orton wasn’t so highly ranked out of high school, there is no chance he would have been drafted based on his bench warming college career…..or season.

    If Perea and Jurkin come in and have similar freshman campaigns, chances are that Hanner could get drafted and Jurkin would be viewed as needing to return and “develop”. And this would be based on ranking and name recognition out of high school. Or what the professionals like to refer to as potential. Same would be true for Harris and Patterson.

    I know this isn’t always the case, but it is the norm.

    Edit: Oh, and as far as what the rankings are based on. hahahahahahahaha to anybody that thinks they can explain it in a way that makes sense.

  • marcusgresham

    Your exhibit A—-Daniel Orton
            exhibit B—Josh Selby    He did very little yet still will be rich.

  • nase

    I think he still has a medical device on his knee and it won’t be removed until Augustish.

  • Anonymous

    Selby was a 2nd rounder. He isn’t even guaranteed a contract. If anything, he’ll probably hit the D-League.

  • marcusgresham

    My bad, I thought he went in the first.  Proves that he should have stayed in school even more, though, doesn’t it?

  • Anonymous

    Just giving you a heads-up, but yeah, he made a pretty boneheaded decision though.

  • Anonymous

    Just giving you a heads-up, but yeah, he made a pretty boneheaded decision though.

  • Kelin Blab

    Selby could have been a hoosier!

  • Kelin Blab

    I believe Creek will be part of our 2012 recruiting class…a 7 man class! Along with Gary Harris