From what I have read over the past 6-8 months IU made a hard push for mcgary to commit to IU THIS season (2011) and he would not. I think it is a situation where you look at who is buying what you are selling more between Harris and McGary and you make the decision to pursue that person. We absolutely could use McGary but if we are getting a better vibe from the Gary Harris camp…..then you continue that route.

Lets not forget….McGary could commit to IU tomorrow if he wanted to, he has an offer.

Offensive scheme, substitutions, and ball movement I will question Crean….recruiting I will not cause there is more that meets the eye. 

Agreed.  We don’t know why CTC would back off of any recruit, but based on his ability to recruit, I think we need to give him the benefit of the doubt.  Also, I think we all should understand that McGary may be less than genuine about his interest level with IU. Maybe he has told CTC that IU is not in his top 3 or 5, etc? And like you said, he still has an offer on the table that he could accept right now.

I’m not going to lie.  I don’t want us to get him.  His highlight reels look impressive, and if he did come, I’d be excited to have his versatility, but I just don’t see a guy committed to being a rebounding, 2nd or 3rd option on the block, type player.  I would LOVE to have another big man, but I think that McGary is too perimeter-minded.  I don’t think we need another PF/C who wants to be a SG.

maybe the IU staff should hire Nover now

maybe the IU staff should hire Nover now

Great point, we need a PF who lives underneath the basket, athletic, and does not need the ball a ton in his hands other than rebounding. McGary is NOT that, he has some Ben Allen to his game, runs like Zeller, and a nice athlete but I think if we are looking at big guys….we need a guy who makes guys think about coming in the lane on the defensive end. Zeller and McGary don’t compliment one another much at all.

It looks good on paper and on You Tube but I don’t see the fit.

I see some of your point of views but I don’t think his recruitment to IU should be downgraded as a player IU doesn’t need or shouldn’t pursue. 

- top ten (some top 5) ranked player nationally on most boards

- interest from Duke, NC, UCONN, Kansas, etc.

- 6′ 10″ 225lbs
(i understand they’re debatable stats, but impressive ones to say the least)

I think his role changes quite a bit from high school to college.  I’m sure that with any school he decides to attend, they are not going to let him play outside the lane much and will continue to work on his post play (where he’d end up most around in the NBA).

He had an offer for 2011, but I think the problem The Powers That Be have is the reclassification.

A couple of weeks ago UCONN offered him and tried to get him to reclassify for 2011. LOL

Im blown away that we arent going after this guy ……. especially when we offer Taylor a scholly , when he has academic problems and is ANOTHER guard …. what coach on the team didnt see us get abused last year down low in the post ? Ijust dont get it !!!

Taylor was a power forward. McGary has an offer just hasn’t taken it.

I also agree. I would be thrilled with a McGary commitment for the frontcourt balance he brings and putting IU firmly in the elite class of of programs again in terms of recruiting top-tier talent. However, I won’t question Crean’s approach on recruiting.

I’m not trying to cast a disparaging light on this kid, bu there have been questions about his work ethic, at least in the classroom. To his credit, he seems to have put in the work to overcome that. I wonder if there is a question of his commitment, work ethic, or simply how he would gel with the guys he has coming in. Those are the only things I can imagine why CTC would not go all out to get him, but that’s all speculation. 

Chesterton’s last Hoosier was a pretty good one Matt Nover

I think Coach Crean is being dumb by not at least giving an occasional phone call.  Not to say that Crean isn’t doing a great job, but I’m a firm believer that you should give a top recruit from Indiana an update or two.  So what if he has a lot of  programs after him, it doesn’t hurt to say “Hey kid, we think your great, but to be totally up front we want another recruit at this point, we still want to recruit you just in case something else occurs”.  I think McGary is mature enough to understand that these happen, and shouldn’t be insulted by it.  Maybe I’m wrong here, but I think having a Zeller, Perea, and McGary would be really scary to opposing teams. 
If we don’t get McGary I hope we go after Anya.  We can’t be afraid to go against other big programs for these kids.  I have a fear that the Irving, and Moses Abraham drama, that he’s afraid to go at it when big programs get involved for specific recruits.  

Come on! you guys are never satisfied! Coach is a great recruiter and he is building something special. He has Zeller and a #1 class in 2012  and other bigs in the pipe. For what ever reason he backed off this kid is ok with me. There are other fish to fry and coach knows it. We do’n need a big kid who wants to shoot 3′s we have those now. We need a banger. Keep your cool and for pity sakes stop calling coach dumb.

I also don’t get the argument that all McGary is, is a perimeter shooter.  The reason why he’s ranked so high is because he developed his game to go inside.  People are allowed to better their games.  The reason the Mavs won the championship was because Dirk developed his game by going inside.  People change.  I know when we think of perimeter big men we think Ben allen, but thats not always the case.  I don’t think Coach Crean is a dumb coach, but I do think this is a dumb move by not giving a kid a phone call or two (if this is the case).

Do you have inside info on this player? I say no, so you make a knee jerk reaction that our coach is making dumb moves. The fact is you, me or any other fans have no clue what coach is thinking about this kid. He got us Zeller, a #1 class for 2012, great commits for 2013 and 2014, a great hire in Cheaney but it is never enough for some fans. IMHO coach has pulled off some amazing things and I don’t think he does anything for a dumb reason. He has backed off this kid for some reason and I don’t think we have enough info to say it is dumb!

First off I said  a dumb move, and I don’t deny that he has done a wonderful job in recruiting so far.  But that does not mean he is not capable of performing dumb moves.  The kid is a beast, and personally I hate being labeled as a university that lets tons big men go on their merry way to other schools ( Oden, May, Oscar Robertson, Montross, Zeller, Randolph, Harangody, to name a few) .   I’m not saying I will be ticked if he leaves but it doesn’t hurt to give a  phone call once in a while instead of calling a junk load of guards.  If this kid goes to a different school, and wins a national championship, without us at least trying our best to get him, is a dumb move.  

I have said what it appears after a brief skim what others are saying here, and I normally get ripped for it for not being supportive.

Don’t get me wrong, Crean is a Grade A recruiter and has done incredibly well so far.  It is hard to complain.

I may be overly critical and greedy but it drives me crazy there we are in a situation where we don’t have room for two of the better players in our state for thier respective class.

It sounds like McGary is all about IU and it appears IU is not all about McGary.  Why?  I know Zeller will be great and Hanner will too be strong down low but can you imagine a Zeller and McGary front court with Yogi running the break?  Unreal.

It is hard for me to stomach that we don’t have a spot for McGary and aren’t in his recruiting mix. 

Its hard to be disappointed with Crean’s recruiting, but this is a disappointing situation.  I think we will be very good but this will be one of those that will hurt when he is killing it for another team in college. And he will kill it in college, without a doubt.

Taylor is a 6 – 6 swing guard or wing !!!

I think Mitch McGary will be a good basketball player at a nice program.

Bring on Gary Harris. I don’t care what Rivals ranks McGary.

What is CTC’s problem, you have Mitch and AJ hammon, big and ready to step in and play and CTC can’t find their #s. I guess if your a so so 6-3 to 6-7 kid your on speed dial. If he hasn’t figured it out playing 4 guards in the B10 doesn’t work. 

Maybe you know more than me, but it would appear you are new to this site and/or haven’t been keeping up on news from the recruiting front for IU.

Crean’s interest in McGary and Hammons is well documented. Neither kid has reciprocated the interest IU has shown in them. It’s truly that simple. In fact, until this article, I’d yet to see McGary give the slightest clue that IU is a destination of interest for him.

There’s no doubt Crean would love to land some talented bigs, I’d be careful assuming too much in Crean’s interest or lack thereof for guys like McGary and Hammons, among others.

I would take 10 other players before I take AJ Hammons….have NEVER been impressed with him.  Oddly enough as has been said before both kids have IU scholarship offers that they are not willing to take for some reason.

I would take 10 other players before I take AJ Hammons….have NEVER been impressed with him.  Oddly enough as has been said before both kids have IU scholarship offers that they are not willing to take for some reason.

I would take 10 other players before I take AJ Hammons….have NEVER been impressed with him.  Oddly enough as has been said before both kids have IU scholarship offers that they are not willing to take for some reason.

They are both very good.  It is hard to choose between the two, which drives me crazy.  I don’t like that we are in a situation, due to spots, where we have to choose which of the two better players from our state we can take on.  There should be room for both!