A couple of notes on 2014 commit Trey Lyles

I had planned, as of Thursday, to write a fairly lengthy piece on 2014 Indianapolis Arsenal Tech forward Trey Lyles prior to his visit last Sunday to Bloomington.

But alas, life happens and I never got the opportunity to write a story after my conversation with Trey’s father, Tom, last Wednesday night. So as an alternative, here are a few key quotes I took away from talking with Tom Lyles last week about his son:

+ I asked Mr. Lyles to explain why he believed his son was garnering so much recruiting attention at the age of 14. Since Trey’s father played professionally and also serves as an assistant coach for Tech, I asked him to answer from a coach’s perspective rather than as his father. And in talking with many parents and recruits over the past three years, this was one of the most impressive answers I’ve ever been given:

“First of all, Trey studied the game. He was truly a student of this game. Not just the running and gunning, the shooting, the dunking. He was a student of the game as in he went back and kind of checked out the legends of the game. And studied a lot of what Rick Barry was doing. Jerry West, Hakeem Olajuwon, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Darrell Dawkins, Moses Malone, Tiny Archibald, Pete Maravich. The kid’s done his homework. And I’ve always told him, ‘before you go any place, you have to know where you’re coming from. You have to know where you have been before you can go anywhere.’ So I think that right there, understanding and being a student of the game, I honestly believe that has given Trey the basketball IQ that he has which I think is just impeccable for a kid his age. Second of all, his work ethic. The kid will work. And he wants more, he wants more, he wants more. 6 o’clock in the morning workouts. We hit 6 o’clock in the morning workouts twice a week, sometimes three days a week. And the 6 o’clock in the morning workouts are harder than any workout that he’s probably been through with any other coach because like I told him, ‘being in middle school, I was training you for high school. Now that we’re in high school, I’m training you for college.’ “

+ And along the same lines, more on Trey’s game:

“Right now the kid is about 6-10. And as a father, I’m very, very happy for him. As a coach, it’s pretty impressive that a kid his age at that size can play every position on the floor and play it fluently. If you need him to be the point, he can run it. He has the handles of some of the best point guards out there. He might not be as fancy with his ball handling, but that’s not what we work on. We don’t work on being fancy, we work on being precise. Fanciness causes turnovers and it’s just for show. We’re about being precise and making things happen. If you need for him to go in the post and play that five position, that’s where he started at. We started on the footwork and the fundamentals, understanding the basics of the game. If you need for him to step out and shoot that midrange shot consistently, he can do that. If you need for him to step out and hit the long ball, college or NBA distance, he can do that consistently. If you need for him to be that wing man and fill the slots and run the floor, he can do that. I’m strictly speaking in a second-party sense, as a coach. It’s amazing that a kid 14 that’s his size, for him to be able to do that, that’s probably the part most of the coaches are impressed with.”

  • http://weeklycritiquely.blogspot.com/ IUfanPurduePhD

    And Thad Matta, too. He’s been robbing our state rather effectively since he landed in Columbus (although he had the aid of Davis and Denim Shirt for his first half decade). Now if we can just send that same message to Roy Williams…

  • WMR

    or the granny shot?

  • Outoftheloop

    “Practice”, he is already ahead of Iverson, and I think that Iverson is one of the top 50 All-Time NBA players. Trey and James are just EXACTLY what we have hoped for at Indiana Basketball!

  • I Bleed Crimson

    I can’t read either of those at work (sites are blocked). Can someone summarize those two posts?

  • Outoftheloop

    I agree but I won’t say it out-loud until AFTER Cod commits!

  • Outoftheloop

    Come on YKZ, Indiana HS is full of Kramer’s, and Painter coaches tough defense and good team offense. I HATE Purdue, but you have to respect your ENEMY!

  • I Bleed Crimson

    Man this is practiaclly a starting line up of IN all stars that will be on campus this weekend. You add a player with size (CZ, PJ) and I would take that line up against any team in the country over the next several years. Hopefully fill out our roster with all the guys we have been talking about. IU will then be a few years away from taking our seat back at the head of the table.

  • stonaroni

    I have heard about CTC and his relentless recruiting efforts at Marquette. I heard about his begging and pleas to potential recruits to join him at Marquette which left CTC frustrated with not being able to consistently land the big recruits. In fact, some in the coaching fraternity used to use this tactic against him saying that CTC was desperate and how the bigger schools do not act like that.

    Now he is relentless on recruiting but he has the following to help make the sale

    +Tradition 5 titles
    +A top program on the rise
    +Ability for playing time right away
    +Legend status if one helps turn the program around
    +Cook Hall
    +Assembly Hall
    +A top notch academic institution
    +The greatest fans in college basketball

    He had none of this at Marquette. Now the shoe is on the other foot. He has a royal flush in his hand instead of a pair of 10′s. And once he lands CZ, Yogi, Hanner to go along with top recruits like Lyles and Blackmon Jr, all the other coaches who used to think CTC was desperate will now be envious. Envious of his efforts and envious that CTC is recruiting in the greatest high school basketball hotbed in the US.

  • Outoftheloop

    That raises a BIG question: why at NO time during Austin’s freshman, sophomore, junior and senior years in HS did he have absolutely ANY interest in Indiana, even when his brother was being recruited by Indiana and was spending three years in Bloomington?? I am not questioning his choice of NC or Duke, only the zero interest in his brother’s school.

  • Outoftheloop

    Nothing will force Cody Zeller to do anything he is not prepared to do on his own. But, yes, he would have to LOVE to play with these guys!

  • Anonymous

    I think of these two guys being in the position I would have been, had I been blessed to be a great basketball player. If Coach Knight had come a calling, I would have signed up at age 7. And there would not have been a person who could change my mind. I believe these will stick.

  • Anonymous

    I think the next verbal will be from one of the guys from 2013. That is the way these things have been going. I am not sure about that class, and it doesn’t seem to have the talent that 12 and 14 have. Nothing seems to go as is expected.

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