IU Schedule Breakdown: Man, that’s a lot of losses

  • 09/04/2008 12:45 pm in

Last year, right around this time, I made a relatively bold prediction about our Indiana Hoosiers. I predicted — nay, demanded — that they win 25 games in the regular season. That was, of course, before the nonsense derailed the Hoosiers and saw them end their season with a meek tournament performance. Weak.

This year, I harbor no such illusions. It’s not that the schedule’s (view here) tougher — it’s that this IU team is so much less talented, so less lauded, and so obviously the first phase of long-term rebuilding. And that’s OK. We all know it. No one is setting the bar too high.

Merficully, the schedule doesn’t start with the impossible out-of-conference schedule Mike Davis saddled himself with. Tom Crean’s first Hoosier team will face only three early challenges in the non-conference portion: Notre Dame, Kentucky, and Wake Forest. Making matters worse, none of the three is at home; Notre Dame will be during the Maui Invitational, Wake Forest is in Wake Forest, and IU will travel to Lexington for the Wildcat revenge. Yikes.

Once the conference season starts, things don’t look much better. Instead of detailing the losses, let’s take a look at the games that we know — absolutely know — IU can win:

— Jan. 7 vs. Michigan
— Jan. 17 vs. Penn State
— Feb. 4 vs. Iowa

And that’s about it. (When I was taking some quick cursory notes about the schedule, next to Penn State I actually wrote “win!”, complete with the exclamation point, because I was so excited to be sure that IU could win one game. No Geary Claxton! Whoo!)

Then, of course, are the rivalry games. I don’t hold much hope for our one game against Purdue this season; the Boilermakers will be well-oiled and the game is at the (Bud) Mackey Arena. But as long as we get one — just one — of the two games with Illinois this year, I will be happy. Incredibly, deliriously happy. The rest is just a bonus.

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  • msdiu81

    Oh ye of little faith. We will get better as the season progresses as Crean will mold this team into a solid, cohesive unit and will play tough to the end. We will win more than most are expecting because we have Crean and because it is Indiana. Can't wait for my season ticket application to come and get to the first game. Go IU!! Go Hoosiers!!

  • ALH_00

    Amen. Find a way to get that one…please!

  • ALH_00

    Amen. Find a way to get that one…please!

  • ALH_00

    Amen. Find a way to get that one…please!

  • ALH_00

    I think you guys (ricbraun and B_MD) are spot-on. I can't wait for the development period to be over in a couple of years. But, for the time being, I'm resigned to seek pleasure in small victories beyond the W-L record.

    I just don't see a team full of players who have never played with one another, and with few who have played a Big 10 game, being successful in terms of W-L (even close to .500).

    Also, the bench is going to be soooo short next season. It's going to be a huge struggle. Hopefully, there will be some victories sprinkled around to give them confidence…especially the Illini at home.

  • ALH_00

    I think you guys (ricbraun and B_MD) are spot-on. I can't wait for the development period to be over in a couple of years. But, for the time being, I'm resigned to seek pleasure in small victories beyond the W-L record.

    I just don't see a team full of players who have never played with one another, and with few who have played a Big 10 game, being successful in terms of W-L (even close to .500).

    Also, the bench is going to be soooo short next season. It's going to be a huge struggle. Hopefully, there will be some victories sprinkled around to give them confidence…especially the Illini at home.

  • ALH_00

    I think you guys (ricbraun and B_MD) are spot-on. I can't wait for the development period to be over in a couple of years. But, for the time being, I'm resigned to seek pleasure in small victories beyond the W-L record.

    I just don't see a team full of players who have never played with one another, and with few who have played a Big 10 game, being successful in terms of W-L (even close to .500).

    Also, the bench is going to be soooo short next season. It's going to be a huge struggle. Hopefully, there will be some victories sprinkled around to give them confidence…especially the Illini at home.

  • B_MD

    Exactly, the “wins” this season are going to be things like Verdell Jones development, do Pritchard and Jobe look like real players we'll be able to count on in coming seasons and does Williams look like a potential go-to player on offense.

  • BGleas

    Exactly, the “wins” this season are going to be things like Verdell Jones development, do Pritchard and Jobe look like real players we'll be able to count on in coming seasons and does Williams look like a potential go-to player on offense.

  • BGleas

    Exactly, the “wins” this season are going to be things like Verdell Jones development, do Pritchard and Jobe look like real players we'll be able to count on in coming seasons and does Williams look like a potential go-to player on offense.

  • Not sure if TC reads the site, but I'm fairly certain he's seen it.

  • Not sure if TC reads the site, but I'm fairly certain he's seen it.

  • Not sure if TC reads the site, but I'm fairly certain he's seen it.

  • plane1972

    If we win 16 games or more, TC takes home every Coach of the Year award in the country, and deservedly so.

  • plane1972

    If we win 16 games or more, TC takes home every Coach of the Year award in the country, and deservedly so.

  • plane1972

    If we win 16 games or more, TC takes home every Coach of the Year award in the country, and deservedly so.

  • indyhoosier

    I know this team is not going to do much this year, but I do know one thing. This team needs more support than any team in the past ten years. Midnight Madness/Hoosier Hysteria absolutely needs even more attention than last year. Last years team was very highly hyped with a slimeball at the helm. This years team is the polar opposite. We have a brand new coach and brand new players. This is a chance to show how strong Hoosier nation is, and rise up through adversity. We now have a coach, and players, that respect what we are about and what Hoosier nation is about. I hope that everyone feels the same way I do and donate their canned goods to send a message that we are still here and we do not intend to move anytime soon!

  • indyhoosier

    I know this team is not going to do much this year, but I do know one thing. This team needs more support than any team in the past ten years. Midnight Madness/Hoosier Hysteria absolutely needs even more attention than last year. Last years team was very highly hyped with a slimeball at the helm. This years team is the polar opposite. We have a brand new coach and brand new players. This is a chance to show how strong Hoosier nation is, and rise up through adversity. We now have a coach, and players, that respect what we are about and what Hoosier nation is about. I hope that everyone feels the same way I do and donate their canned goods to send a message that we are still here and we do not intend to move anytime soon!

  • indyhoosier

    I know this team is not going to do much this year, but I do know one thing. This team needs more support than any team in the past ten years. Midnight Madness/Hoosier Hysteria absolutely needs even more attention than last year. Last years team was very highly hyped with a slimeball at the helm. This years team is the polar opposite. We have a brand new coach and brand new players. This is a chance to show how strong Hoosier nation is, and rise up through adversity. We now have a coach, and players, that respect what we are about and what Hoosier nation is about. I hope that everyone feels the same way I do and donate their canned goods to send a message that we are still here and we do not intend to move anytime soon!

  • shootit

    Blinders

  • shootit

    Blinders

  • shootit

    Blinders

  • JerryCT

    FYI –
    Wall ST Journal had a good article on the front of the 3rd section Friday on an increase in east coast students going to IU.

    Do you think Cheek, Braswell etc read the journal ? Maybe we are on the verge of an eastern fan base

  • JerryCT

    FYI –
    Wall ST Journal had a good article on the front of the 3rd section Friday on an increase in east coast students going to IU.

    Do you think Cheek, Braswell etc read the journal ? Maybe we are on the verge of an eastern fan base

  • JerryCT

    FYI –
    Wall ST Journal had a good article on the front of the 3rd section Friday on an increase in east coast students going to IU.

    Do you think Cheek, Braswell etc read the journal ? Maybe we are on the verge of an eastern fan base

  • Sallad

    I don't know about every award in the country, but if he manages to be over .500, he's got Big Ten Coach of the year in the bag.

  • Sallad

    I don't know about every award in the country, but if he manages to be over .500, he's got Big Ten Coach of the year in the bag.

  • Sallad

    I don't know about every award in the country, but if he manages to be over .500, he's got Big Ten Coach of the year in the bag.

  • Kelin Blab

    Hey gang…fyi…IU tickets v. Gonzaga go on sale tomorrow…good chance to see them in Indy and see Lucas oil…as of now it would be nice to see some offense at Lucas oil

  • Kelin Blab

    Hey gang…fyi…IU tickets v. Gonzaga go on sale tomorrow…good chance to see them in Indy and see Lucas oil…as of now it would be nice to see some offense at Lucas oil

  • Kelin Blab

    Hey gang…fyi…IU tickets v. Gonzaga go on sale tomorrow…good chance to see them in Indy and see Lucas oil…as of now it would be nice to see some offense at Lucas oil

  • Kelin Blab

    Hey gang…fyi…IU tickets v. Gonzaga go on sale tomorrow…good chance to see them in Indy and see Lucas oil…as of now it would be nice to see some offense at Lucas oil

  • junkman

    Interesting thought….who has more wins…the football team or the basketball team?

    ouch…

  • junkman

    Interesting thought….who has more wins…the football team or the basketball team?

    ouch…

  • junkman

    Interesting thought….who has more wins…the football team or the basketball team?

    ouch…

  • junkman

    Interesting thought….who has more wins…the football team or the basketball team?

    ouch…

  • DJW

    I don't think IU Fans should dwell on wins and losses this year. A better barometer for the the future of IU BB will be how well Coach Crean can develop and mold this years team considering the talent level that he has been left with.

    If they can compete with the competion and display team unity and skill improvement…this will go a long way.

    Wins arent as important as dicipline and good sound basketaball

  • DJW

    I don't think IU Fans should dwell on wins and losses this year. A better barometer for the the future of IU BB will be how well Coach Crean can develop and mold this years team considering the talent level that he has been left with.

    If they can compete with the competion and display team unity and skill improvement…this will go a long way.

    Wins arent as important as dicipline and good sound basketaball

  • DJW

    I don't think IU Fans should dwell on wins and losses this year. A better barometer for the the future of IU BB will be how well Coach Crean can develop and mold this years team considering the talent level that he has been left with.

    If they can compete with the competion and display team unity and skill improvement…this will go a long way.

    Wins arent as important as dicipline and good sound basketaball

  • DJW

    I don't think IU Fans should dwell on wins and losses this year. A better barometer for the the future of IU BB will be how well Coach Crean can develop and mold this years team considering the talent level that he has been left with.

    If they can compete with the competion and display team unity and skill improvement…this will go a long way.

    Wins arent as important as dicipline and good sound basketaball

  • RRanney1

    Best case scenario for IU this season (12-18)…

    Non-Conference (6-6):

    Easy wins:
    Northwestern State
    Northeastern
    TCU

    Likely wins:
    Lipscomb
    Chaminade (Maui 3rd Rd)

    Toss-ups:
    IUPUI
    Cornell

    Likely loss:
    St. Josephs (Maui 2nd Rd)

    Certain losses:
    Notre Dame
    Wake Forest
    Gonzaga
    Kentucky

    Conference Play (6-12):

    Winnable home games:
    Iowa
    Northwestern
    Penn State
    Michigan
    Minnesota

    Winnable road game:
    Penn State

    Likely home losses:
    Illinois

    Likely road losses:
    Iowa
    Illinois
    Northwestern
    Minnesota

    Certain home losses:
    Ohio State
    Wisconsin
    Michigan State

    Certain road losses:
    Purdue
    Michigan State
    Wisconsin
    Ohio State

    Worse case scenario 7-8 wins, with a couple home non-conference losses, no true road wins (only 1 neutral court win), only 2-3 conference home wins.

    The measure for success for IU this season will have to be something other than wins and losses.

  • RRanney1

    Best case scenario for IU this season (12-18)…

    Non-Conference (6-6):

    Easy wins:
    Northwestern State
    Northeastern
    TCU

    Likely wins:
    Lipscomb
    Chaminade (Maui 3rd Rd)

    Toss-ups:
    IUPUI
    Cornell

    Likely loss:
    St. Josephs (Maui 2nd Rd)

    Certain losses:
    Notre Dame
    Wake Forest
    Gonzaga
    Kentucky

    Conference Play (6-12):

    Winnable home games:
    Iowa
    Northwestern
    Penn State
    Michigan
    Minnesota

    Winnable road game:
    Penn State

    Likely home losses:
    Illinois

    Likely road losses:
    Iowa
    Illinois
    Northwestern
    Minnesota

    Certain home losses:
    Ohio State
    Wisconsin
    Michigan State

    Certain road losses:
    Purdue
    Michigan State
    Wisconsin
    Ohio State

    Worse case scenario 7-8 wins, with a couple home non-conference losses, no true road wins (only 1 neutral court win), only 2-3 conference home wins.

    The measure for success for IU this season will have to be something other than wins and losses.

  • RRanney1

    Best case scenario for IU this season (12-18)…

    Non-Conference (6-6):

    Easy wins:
    Northwestern State
    Northeastern
    TCU

    Likely wins:
    Lipscomb
    Chaminade (Maui 3rd Rd)

    Toss-ups:
    IUPUI
    Cornell

    Likely loss:
    St. Josephs (Maui 2nd Rd)

    Certain losses:
    Notre Dame
    Wake Forest
    Gonzaga
    Kentucky

    Conference Play (6-12):

    Winnable home games:
    Iowa
    Northwestern
    Penn State
    Michigan
    Minnesota

    Winnable road game:
    Penn State

    Likely home losses:
    Illinois

    Likely road losses:
    Iowa
    Illinois
    Northwestern
    Minnesota

    Certain home losses:
    Ohio State
    Wisconsin
    Michigan State

    Certain road losses:
    Purdue
    Michigan State
    Wisconsin
    Ohio State

    Worse case scenario 7-8 wins, with a couple home non-conference losses, no true road wins (only 1 neutral court win), only 2-3 conference home wins.

    The measure for success for IU this season will have to be something other than wins and losses.

  • RRanney1

    Best case scenario for IU this season (12-18)…

    Non-Conference (6-6):

    Easy wins:
    Northwestern State
    Northeastern
    TCU

    Likely wins:
    Lipscomb
    Chaminade (Maui 3rd Rd)

    Toss-ups:
    IUPUI
    Cornell

    Likely loss:
    St. Josephs (Maui 2nd Rd)

    Certain losses:
    Notre Dame
    Wake Forest
    Gonzaga
    Kentucky

    Conference Play (6-12):

    Winnable home games:
    Iowa
    Northwestern
    Penn State
    Michigan
    Minnesota

    Winnable road game:
    Penn State

    Likely home losses:
    Illinois

    Likely road losses:
    Iowa
    Illinois
    Northwestern
    Minnesota

    Certain home losses:
    Ohio State
    Wisconsin
    Michigan State

    Certain road losses:
    Purdue
    Michigan State
    Wisconsin
    Ohio State

    Worse case scenario 7-8 wins, with a couple home non-conference losses, no true road wins (only 1 neutral court win), only 2-3 conference home wins.

    The measure for success for IU this season will have to be something other than wins and losses.

  • RRanney1

    Best case scenario for IU this season (12-18)…

    Non-Conference (6-6):

    Easy wins:
    Northwestern State
    Northeastern
    TCU

    Likely wins:
    Lipscomb
    Chaminade (Maui 3rd Rd)

    Toss-ups:
    IUPUI
    Cornell

    Likely loss:
    St. Josephs (Maui 2nd Rd)

    Certain losses:
    Notre Dame
    Wake Forest
    Gonzaga
    Kentucky

    Conference Play (6-12):

    Winnable home games:
    Iowa
    Northwestern
    Penn State
    Michigan
    Minnesota

    Winnable road game:
    Penn State

    Likely home losses:
    Illinois

    Likely road losses:
    Iowa
    Illinois
    Northwestern
    Minnesota

    Certain home losses:
    Ohio State
    Wisconsin
    Michigan State

    Certain road losses:
    Purdue
    Michigan State
    Wisconsin
    Ohio State

    Worse case scenario 7-8 wins, with a couple home non-conference losses, no true road wins (only 1 neutral court win), only 2-3 conference home wins.

    The measure for success for IU this season will have to be something other than wins and losses.