Hoosiers shellacked by Spartans, 103-74

  • 03/02/2008 4:44 pm in

Drew NeitzelIndiana entered Sunday’s game at the Breslin Center with an opportunity to stay tied with Wisconsin and Purdue in the race for the Big Ten title.

After 40 minutes against the Michigan State Spartans, the Hoosiers all but eliminated themselves from contention. Tom Izzo’s club led 59-31 at halftime and cruised to a 103-74 win on senior day.

Raymar Morgan led the Spartans (23-6, 11-5 Big Ten) with 20 points and Drew Neitzel and Goran Suton added 17 points each.

Michigan State shot 78 percent from the field in the first half, including 9 of 12 from beyond the three-point line. The Hoosiers (24-5, 13-3), on the other hand, shot just 35 percent in the first 20 minutes.

In the second half, Indiana got within 17 at 75-58 before Michigan State pulled away down the stretch. The Spartans led by 32 at one point.

Eric Gordon’s 22 points paced the Hoosiers and D.J. White posted his 18th double-double of the season with 14 points and 12 rebounds. Armon Bassett added 13 points and Jordan Crawford had 12.

The loss was the 14th straight at the Breslin Center for Indiana.

Minnesota will visit Assembly Hall on Wednesday night at 7 p.m. as the Hoosiers wrap up their home schedule.

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  • HoosierSmitty

    I tried to be positive and “feel” a victory yesterday, but I was obviously WAY OFF. What an embarassment. For those who think we shouldn't get “carried away” after this game are not seeing straight.

    At this stage in the season, NO TEAM in Indiana's position should get blown out that way.
    1.) We have the two best offensive weapons in the Big Ten.
    2.) We have two of the top three rebounders in the Big Ten.
    3.) Bassett has emerged as a threat.
    4.) We were competing for a Big Ten title
    5.) Our assistants haven't changed…did KS make that big of a difference?

    It seems that the coaching switch has had a bigger impact on the team that we ever could have imagined. I mean we are competing for a Big Ten title and we play like that? It was like they weren't even trying.

    My thoughts:

    1.) A sweet sixteen berth would be a miracle at this stage.
    2.) Our players need to stop pouting or just quit. I'd rather watch Taber, Ahlfeld, Finklemeier, Mike White, and Bradon McGee play.
    3.) DJ, I love you, but I hope you chewed the team out because that was pathetic. If Dakich won't, then you have to, or it's a lost season. The last two games were bad…but this one was pathetic!
    4.) I pray that this was the eye-opener that Northwestern and Ohio State was not…or else we're not going to win another game this season.
    5.) Maybe this will knock us down to a six seed…I'd rather be a six seed than a 4 or 5 seed. (Keeps us away from the 1 seeds longer…if we made a run).

  • HoosierSmitty

    I tried to be positive and “feel” a victory yesterday, but I was obviously WAY OFF. What an embarassment. For those who think we shouldn't get “carried away” after this game are not seeing straight.

    At this stage in the season, NO TEAM in Indiana's position should get blown out that way.
    1.) We have the two best offensive weapons in the Big Ten.
    2.) We have two of the top three rebounders in the Big Ten.
    3.) Bassett has emerged as a threat.
    4.) We were competing for a Big Ten title
    5.) Our assistants haven't changed…did KS make that big of a difference?

    It seems that the coaching switch has had a bigger impact on the team that we ever could have imagined. I mean we are competing for a Big Ten title and we play like that? It was like they weren't even trying.

    My thoughts:

    1.) A sweet sixteen berth would be a miracle at this stage.
    2.) Our players need to stop pouting or just quit. I'd rather watch Taber, Ahlfeld, Finklemeier, Mike White, and Bradon McGee play.
    3.) DJ, I love you, but I hope you chewed the team out because that was pathetic. If Dakich won't, then you have to, or it's a lost season. The last two games were bad…but this one was pathetic!
    4.) I pray that this was the eye-opener that Northwestern and Ohio State was not…or else we're not going to win another game this season.
    5.) Maybe this will knock us down to a six seed…I'd rather be a six seed than a 4 or 5 seed. (Keeps us away from the 1 seeds longer…if we made a run).

  • Jerry

    I have been reamed on this site for stating early in the year that Gordon has great skills but is not a good player………because……….he hurts vs improves the players around him. I think he should stay and learn a passing, set up and mid range game. A good GM will see many others in draft able to play right away . Right now even among freshman I would take Bayless, Mayo, Hardin, Rose, over him not to mention older players like Augustin, Reynolds, Price, Maynor, Collison, Rush etc.

    What does he play in the pros anyway ? Point ….no. Shooting guard , expected to defend 6'6″ guys better than he is .Ray Alen, Caron Butler, rip Hamilton, Ginobli…………no. He needs an extra year with a better coach.

  • Jerry

    I have been reamed on this site for stating early in the year that Gordon has great skills but is not a good player………because……….he hurts vs improves the players around him. I think he should stay and learn a passing, set up and mid range game. A good GM will see many others in draft able to play right away . Right now even among freshman I would take Bayless, Mayo, Hardin, Rose, over him not to mention older players like Augustin, Reynolds, Price, Maynor, Collison, Rush etc.

    What does he play in the pros anyway ? Point ….no. Shooting guard , expected to defend 6'6″ guys better than he is .Ray Alen, Caron Butler, rip Hamilton, Ginobli…………no. He needs an extra year with a better coach.

  • kelin

    “At this point it’s been 10 days,” Dakich said. “That’s no excuse. We have to be better than what we were today.”

    We just didn’t come to play at all,” he said………EJ quote

    Both Gordon and D.J. White said they were embarrassed by the loss.

    After reading these quotes it is clear that this team is NOT a team. They are a good group of individual players who have not been TAUGHT team stuff. KS is a helluva coach but what has carried over? I think those games they won ( PU and MSU), they were inspired by the possible loss of their coach and played for his job….after his firing, it seems they have nothing to play which is sad.

    As I have said before despite our record this season has been a dissapointment and however it ends, I am just ready for a good new coach hired without a $80K search committee and a hire with the future in mind of this program, not some well establish older guy who will be done in 3-5 years…..

  • kelin

    “At this point it’s been 10 days,” Dakich said. “That’s no excuse. We have to be better than what we were today.”

    We just didn’t come to play at all,” he said………EJ quote

    Both Gordon and D.J. White said they were embarrassed by the loss.

    After reading these quotes it is clear that this team is NOT a team. They are a good group of individual players who have not been TAUGHT team stuff. KS is a helluva coach but what has carried over? I think those games they won ( PU and MSU), they were inspired by the possible loss of their coach and played for his job….after his firing, it seems they have nothing to play which is sad.

    As I have said before despite our record this season has been a dissapointment and however it ends, I am just ready for a good new coach hired without a $80K search committee and a hire with the future in mind of this program, not some well establish older guy who will be done in 3-5 years…..

  • kelin

    Jerry I ripped you and I owe you an apology and especially agree with your last statement….He needs to be coached better for another season to develop his game. Oddly enough he showed some midrange game yesterday that looked good.

    EJ as a sophmore would:
    *Become a better ballhanlder
    *Improve his scoring guard skills and playmaking
    *become unstopable with a mid range game
    *would be a POY candidate and could be at SOLID top 5 or higher pick

    He leaves this year….
    his ballhandling will be picked apart
    his turnovers will be a red flag
    and his recent shooting woes be another red flag

    My gut tells me…..understanding the people around him with his family….EJ stays another year….unless we hire another horrible coach

  • kelin

    Jerry I ripped you and I owe you an apology and especially agree with your last statement….He needs to be coached better for another season to develop his game. Oddly enough he showed some midrange game yesterday that looked good.

    EJ as a sophmore would:
    *Become a better ballhanlder
    *Improve his scoring guard skills and playmaking
    *become unstopable with a mid range game
    *would be a POY candidate and could be at SOLID top 5 or higher pick

    He leaves this year….
    his ballhandling will be picked apart
    his turnovers will be a red flag
    and his recent shooting woes be another red flag

    My gut tells me…..understanding the people around him with his family….EJ stays another year….unless we hire another horrible coach

  • I always thought they'd get two out of him (although I was a little less enthusiastic about that claim after the sanctions letter was sent) based on his demeanor and personality. I'm not sure about that, but like you, my gut tells me he'll be back for one more.

  • I always thought they'd get two out of him (although I was a little less enthusiastic about that claim after the sanctions letter was sent) based on his demeanor and personality. I'm not sure about that, but like you, my gut tells me he'll be back for one more.

  • HoosierSmitty

    I hope you're right, but I would be shocked to see him back, even though it is obvious he needs to. I think some of the things that EJ does wrong could be corrected by the end of this season, but he's had too much free reign. A simple “benching” for a mistake for a few mintues, but help get a point across.

  • HoosierSmitty

    I hope you're right, but I would be shocked to see him back, even though it is obvious he needs to. I think some of the things that EJ does wrong could be corrected by the end of this season, but he's had too much free reign. A simple “benching” for a mistake for a few mintues, but help get a point across.

  • Jay

    Well said.

  • Jay

    Well said.

  • JamesHardy

    that butter was left over from the biscuit he had during the halftime meal

  • JamesHardy

    that butter was left over from the biscuit he had during the halftime meal

  • knasmiley

    I understand the questioning how hard they played, but calling them names is just over the top. I personally dont think this team will fold, I look for 2 solid wins to go along with IUs first BTT and a DEEP run in the NCAA tourney. I am just glad we dropped this stinker NOW instead of in the TOURNEY when its 1 and done, we are one LATE GAME bankshot from winning the BT…………..

    PS: I would like some of what that guy is smoking that would take ALL those guys above EJ, he does turn the ball over but makes more than up for it with ALL the other things he does. Get real, he is leading the BT in scoring while being injured MOST of the season, shooting a TON of FTs at HIGH percentage, once again people see what they want to see……………

  • knasmiley

    I understand the questioning how hard they played, but calling them names is just over the top. I personally dont think this team will fold, I look for 2 solid wins to go along with IUs first BTT and a DEEP run in the NCAA tourney. I am just glad we dropped this stinker NOW instead of in the TOURNEY when its 1 and done, we are one LATE GAME bankshot from winning the BT…………..

    PS: I would like some of what that guy is smoking that would take ALL those guys above EJ, he does turn the ball over but makes more than up for it with ALL the other things he does. Get real, he is leading the BT in scoring while being injured MOST of the season, shooting a TON of FTs at HIGH percentage, once again people see what they want to see……………

  • Louisiana Hoosier

    Say all you want to about uninspired performance, Michigan State was hot, etc. The bottom line is we sucked. There is no way that we should lose by that margin with the talent on hand. Dan Dakich may be a great guy but he's not the man for the job–even though I can sympathesize with him having to walk a tightrope for the last portion of the season. Let's find a proven winner or a sure-fire on the rise guy.

  • Louisiana Hoosier

    Say all you want to about uninspired performance, Michigan State was hot, etc. The bottom line is we sucked. There is no way that we should lose by that margin with the talent on hand. Dan Dakich may be a great guy but he's not the man for the job–even though I can sympathesize with him having to walk a tightrope for the last portion of the season. Let's find a proven winner or a sure-fire on the rise guy.

  • Jay

    Knas, I agree we shouldn't name-call. At the same time, I believe the players are sulking, and will continue to sulk. As if not trying hard, and even losing, will somehow teach everyone a lesson. That may be a bit of a reach, but I think that's part of it. I don't know what the solution is.

  • Jay

    Knas, I agree we shouldn't name-call. At the same time, I believe the players are sulking, and will continue to sulk. As if not trying hard, and even losing, will somehow teach everyone a lesson. That may be a bit of a reach, but I think that's part of it. I don't know what the solution is.

  • Louisiana Hoosier

    Say all you want to about uninspired performance, Michigan State was hot, etc. The bottom line is we sucked. There is no way that we should lose by that margin with the talent on hand. Dan Dakich may be a great guy but he's not the man for the job–even though I can sympathesize with him having to walk a tightrope for the last portion of the season. Let's find a proven winner or a sure-fire on the rise guy.

  • Jay

    Knas, I agree we shouldn't name-call. At the same time, I believe the players are sulking, and will continue to sulk. As if not trying hard, and even losing, will somehow teach everyone a lesson. That may be a bit of a reach, but I think that's part of it. I don't know what the solution is.