That’s A Wrap: Devonte Green

  • 03/27/2018 10:35 am in

Welcome to “That’s A Wrap,” our player-by-player recap of the 2017-2018 Indiana Hoosiers. Today: Devonte Green.

Green (31 games): 7.6 points, 1.9 rebounds, 2.5 assists, 1 steal, 43.9 eFG%, 34% 3FG, 71% FT in 22.5 minutes per game.

There was no Hoosier on the 2017-18 roster as polarizing as sophomore Devonte Green. A combo guard with innate talent and an arsenal of moves straight out of NBA Street, Green’s role changed throughout the season as his play waxed and waned.

The guard out of North Babylon, New York began the season in the starting backcourt, but was relegated to the bench in favor of freshman Al Durham prior to the Duke game. Green would not start again for more than two months.

Archie Miller hoped Green would provide a spark off the bench, but Green struggled to find a rhythm as a reserve. In the first 16 games after Green was sent to the bench, the sophomore scored in double-figures just three times.

Eventually, Green regained his confidence. In Indiana’s game at Ohio State on Jan. 30, he was one of the few positives in a blowout defeat. Four days later, Green had another solid performance against Michigan State. That was enough for Miller to reinsert Green back into the starting five.

That’s when Indiana rolled off four straight wins, with Green at his best. He hit 71 percent (10-of-14) of his threes, had a 1.9 assist-to-turnover ratio and averaged 1.5 steals per game. Even when things went wrong, they still ended up working.

But as the competition toughened at the tail end of the season, Green’s play slipped significantly. In the final three games of Indiana’s campaign, Green recorded a total of 11 points and four assists while turning it over 10 times. His accuracy from deep dropped off as well, with Green hitting just 1-of-7 shots from three over the final stretch.

No Hoosier relished having the ball in their hands late in a possession more than Devonte Green. Yet according to Synergy Sports, Green shot just 5-of-21 from the floor when there was four seconds or less on the shot clock.

One aspect of Green’s game that is often undervalued is his passing. Green’s assist rate in conference play (23.9 percent) ranked 13th in the Big Ten. Archie Miller repeatedly called Green the team’s best post-entry passer throughout the season.

No more was that skill evident than the final minute of a mid-February contest in Iowa City. With the score even at 82 apiece, Green threw an incredible one-handed bounce pass to Freddie McSwain for a wide open layup, giving Indiana the lead for good.

Bottom line: As one of just a few players on last year’s team that could create his own shot, Green often tried to carry the entire offensive load with mixed results. With an influx of playmakers coming in next season, Green will have to once again earn his minutes under Miller. But if he can manage to find consistency in his play and cut down on the turnovers, he’ll remain a key cog in the Hoosiers’ rotation.

Quotable: “He started to see to himself that his way wasn’t working. At the end of the day, he started to come with a little bit more humbleness in practice, a little bit more approach that we liked. And with that approach, he got opportunity. Once he got his opportunity, he took advantage of it. To me right now, he’s playing as good as we’ve had a guard play all season just in terms of the ability to make plays.” – Miller after Green scored 19 points and dished seven assists in a win over Minnesota on Feb. 9.

PreviouslyJustin SmithAl Durham Jr., Clifton Moore

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  • Kirby

    Green had the biggest gap for me between the “Eye-Test” vs. the Box Score. He seems like he does a lot of things REALLY well. He can play tough defense, he can create his own shot and is a really slick passer. His numbers haven’t reflected that yet. I’m excited to see him as an upperclassman and think he’ll be one of our best five next year.

  • inLinE6

    Green has to change the way he plays to find minutes next year. I found more frustration than excitement watching him play.

  • JimmyChittwood

    Unfortunately I found that a lot of his “slick” passes turned out to become turnovers.

  • Sherronhasaheadache

    To me DG is the X factor for next season with or with out RL. as this team is short on guards with experience. this kid will have to find some consistency in his game, handling it, shooting and making good decisions. the sky is the limit for him and if he makes the leap we all know he can then look out

  • iugradmark

    RoJo saw his teammates in practice so I value his observations. We know that Devonte earned the gold jersey in practice so it is a matter of him playing consistently in the game. I felt like when Devonte stumbled at the end of the year it was a big reason that IU finished poorly. If he could have sustained his play, I think we might have won a game or two at the end of the year and we would all probably feel a bit better about his progression.

  • IU Hoosiers # 34, 1979-83

    DG and Justin are incredibly crucial for next season’s success.IMHO.

  • Mark Bando

    I’m not expecting a big jump for DG next year. I think our starting guards will be RP and AD. The more film i watch on RP the more i think he is going to be really good as a freshman.

  • RonMlarkey

    He will find minutes by default. Hopefully he can be more efficient with them.

  • Tyler D

    We’re still talking about a freshman point guard not named Yogi, Ulis, Garland, Sexton, T. Jones, etc. My guess is Green and Durham start in the back court. Huge jump from HS point guard to BIG point guard. This isn’t to say he won’t be a great Hoosier, I think he will, but I think it might take some time.

  • Tyler D

    And a lot of them turned into dunks.

  • Tyler D

    My way too early starting 5.
    –Race, Romeo or Davis depending on the Langford decision and Davis’ health.

  • Jethro Jones

    Do they do a “thats a wrap” write up for Archie?

  • inCMitrust

    This year it was as Rojo goes so goes the team, next year it may be true with DG unless we add another guard in a few weeks.

  • Mark Bando

    I hope DG proves me wrong.

  • Hoosiernation1887

    I’m not sure if I see Justin starting alongside De’Ron and Juwan unless one of Juwan and Justin have a big offseason in terms of developing their outside game, which I can see happening. However, as of now all of these guys are pretty close to strictly post-up players and starting all 3 would crowd that part of the floor.

  • Mark Bando

    This is the same way i see it.

  • SCHoosier

    Hate to say this..but I watch the transfer site daily. Would like to see DG stay and blossom but………

  • MK

    but more of them were turnovers. It got so bad that Archie couldn’t play him for large amounts of time. If he can’t make good decisions more consistently, he can’t play

  • TomJameson

    Devonte just needs to become more consistent, and more careful with the ball. When he stops trying to do it all, and plays more within himself (and the game), Devonte is awesome to watch. It’s when he over-extends trying to do too much, is when the turnovers start.

    Something interesting … In the podcast with Robert Johnson, one of the questions was asking who RJ thought would make the biggest leap, and Devonte was one of the three RJ thought would make a leap. (Seriously, that podcast is worth listening to.)

    **edit … the other two were Justin and Race

  • TomJameson

    Obvious disclaimer that Archie will make that decision, and the players will have to earn their minutes and starts. But I feel certain that Rob Phinisee will be starting. Juwan, Rob, De’Ron, Justin, and … somebody else. 🙂 Another guard type.

  • ImYourHuckleberry

    Garland, whom you mentioned is also a freshman. Has he somehow proven himself as a college pg already? You can’t mention him with the other 4 pg who have already played. It’s fair to say RP could be just as poised and more ready for college ball as Garland.

  • RonMlarkey

    I would not be surprised at all to see him transfer, him and Archie do not seem to see eye to eye. I think he would rather be the go to scorer at a smaller school and not have to worry about being taken out of the game everytime he turns the ball over.

  • pdhoosier

    Transfer site?
    I think him leaving would put a huge hole in our program, as we are short on guards…

  • MrNobody

    Agree completely and might I add off a redshirt putting Race in that category. His name came up with Arch few times off topic

  • Ole Man

    Why do you mention people by name when talking about transfers in a public forum? I just don’t get it.

  • Fifer39

    Whether or not anyone is likely to transfer, I think you make a fair point. Archie has received a lot of props for making players accountable and yanking them after errors or turnovers. I do agree that a sense of accountability seemed to be lacking under TC but there, no doubt, does become a point when players are just playing tight because they know one wrong move and they’re sitting. I do find myself hoping that when Archie gets his players (whether existing or recruits) there appears a greater sense of trust that will allow players like DG to express themselves too.

  • Mark Bando

    What are you basing you’re “him and archie dont seem to see eye to eye” comment on? I neither saw nor heard of anything that supports this claim.

  • I could see Devonte becoming Kaminski-like by his senior year.

  • Ivan Renko

    definitely, i see it too. if Devonte works hard enough, there’s no excuse he can’t become a 6’11” power forward and future lottery pick.

  • Hah! I get the comment’s point, but still I had the same reaction — especially the “6’11” power forward” part.

  • Phinisee is going to be the best thing that ever happened to DG. Let him play the position he’s best at and I think he’ll do fine (now, maybe that’ll be backing up Romeo, but even so).

  • TomJameson

    That’s a good and fair point. As a matter of fact, I’m not married to that specific starting 5, and I think there are probably 8 to 9 players you can get a starting 5 out of that I would be happy with. 🙂

    With the stipulation that they will all have to earn their start, I’ll start with Rob, Juwan, and one other guard. After that it’s probably all up in the air. Dealers choice, and Archie is the dealer. 🙂

  • Archie gave DG plenty of rope, and plenty of opportunity to “express himself.” And DG got playing time when he was under control — I suspect it was always perfectly clear what he needed to do in order to earn playing time, and when he did it, he was rewarded accordingly. I’d say the players you want on the team are those who welcome competition and can earn the time.

    Incidentally, I disagree that Archie’s approach was “one wrong move and they’re sitting,” unless you mean a player simply repeating mistakes and not learning from them. That did describe DG at times, and I can’t remember thinking he ever pulled anyone prematurely.

  • Well, that made no sense. Thank you for the contribution.

  • TomJameson

    Not sure I would call Robert Phinisee “Phinny”, at least not to his face. Never heard that one. 🙂

  • MrNobody

    He always brings value to all discussions with his well thought out and insightful replies. It’s not just inside the hall BTW

  • It’s good to know that he’s spreading his wisdom around, I suppose.

  • iugradmark

    First rule of ITH Club…

  • TomJameson

    Not sure Rob is Italian, and I’ve never heard it before. I just don’t like it, but he may. One never knows. 🙂

  • Mark Bando

    Im assuming this is some kind of joke since you said the same exact thing about Moore.

  • Mark Bando

    I missed the scones comment.

  • Mark Bando

    Im not giving up on DG, especially because i think archie sees good potential in him. And of course its way too early to be predicting these things, but I like the combo of RP and AD. AD because of his defense and composure. And RP because he can get to the hoop, shoot from outside and set his teammates up.

  • Mark Bando

    I was impressed when Alex’s wrap on him said he was the number 1 rated defender for us this past year. DG is a good defender too, and a better scorer, but I like Al’s basketball IQ. They will both see lots of playing time.

  • coachv

    btw, he didn’t mention him by name. he mentioned him by initials. not that there’s anything wrong with that

  • coachv

    who’s phinny?

  • Hmmm… Man, there’s so much material there, but I’m going to exercise some self-control.

  • Fifer39

    I definitely think there were some pretty harsh benchings through the course of the season but that’s partly the price you pay with a new coach who’s trying to build a new system and get players to play his way. I get that and I’m certainly glad to see more of a culture of accountability. But there has to be a balance and I think that will come as trust and understanding develops between players and coaches.

  • IdahoHoosier

    I’m not sure your analogy works. I agree it feels a tad distasteful to discuss transfers. However, it is all speculation which is what a ton of this forum consists of, so I feel like transfer speculation is fair game. It is a reality of the sport, and we need things to argue about in the off-season!

  • IdahoHoosier

    Like I said, I agree it is distasteful, but can’t agree it is somehow off limits. And the Crean getting his recruits narrative has already been put out there, so nothing surprises me. Pretty much all speculation is arbitrary. Keep up the good work, but on this one I’ll have to say you’re being a bit sensitive. People can discuss what they want here that is basketball related. No one will make you join in on topics you don’t want to discuss.

  • coachv

    not sure i see deron starting alongside juwan and justin