The Minute After: Purdue

  • 02/15/2014 6:59 pm in

Thoughts on a 82-64 loss to Purdue:

As it turns out, it can get worse.

The Penn State meltdown. The Hanner Mosquera-Perea middle-of-the night arrest. And now, on a Saturday in Mackey Arena, a pathetic performance against a Purdue team and student section smelling blood in the water. If timing is everything, this was about the worst time for the Hoosiers to take a trip to West Lafayette. But the schedule is what it is, and Indiana’s ship, for the moment, looks sunk.

The Hoosiers were their typical silly turnover self to start this one. But as the first half went along, Indiana started to match the intensity of the building. Purdue was heaving some bricks, and Indiana got back into the game — even taking a five-point lead at 27-22 with 6:30 to go. But with Noah Vonleh on the bench with three fouls, the lead slipped away and the rout was on. Indiana could have taken a lead into halftime on a Yogi Ferrell 3-pointer with eight seconds to go. But he missed with Indiana trailing 35-33. Devin Davis fouled Basil Smotherman on the rebound. In the double bonus, he’d make the first, miss the second, get his own rebound and drop in a lay-up at the buzzer to put Purdue up 38-33.

It was one of those afternoons for the Hoosiers.

Purdue dropped trey after trey (10-of-18, 55.6 percent) and hit some tough shots that resulted in and-1 opportunities. It finished the game scoring 1.15 points per possession, its highest mark for the conference season. The Boilermakers were feeling it today and couldn’t be stopped. Indiana’s offense, on the other hand, slipped into a vast void of nothingness.

Its field goal drought was almost unfathomable. From Jeff Howard’s lay-in with 2:33 to go in the first half until a Yogi Ferrell 3-pointer at the 13:08 mark in the second half, the Hoosiers didn’t make a shot. That’s 9:25 of game clock coming up blank along with twelve missed shots in a row. Indiana failed to convert on a number of lay-ups. A tie ballgame at 33-all suddenly became a 15-point deficit (53-38) and it appeared as if the Hoosiers had thrown in the towel.

As the shots weren’t falling, and Purdue was humming on the other end, things got stale on offense. Indiana stood around like trees; there was little movement or purpose and you wondered what the heck was going on. The Hoosiers took far too many shots from distance (8-of-23, 34.8 percent) simply because they’d have nothing much going and they’d just heave from the perimeter late in the shot clock. The Paint Crew chanted “IU sucks” and “Ball State’s better,” and well, those taunts rang true on a day like today.

There is no plug to pull here, no reset button on the machine to start this season over and try and play it out any differently. Indiana’s program just had its roughest week in some time — maybe the worst of the Crean era, depending on criteria? — and who knows where it goes from here.

A strong, ranked Iowa team comes to Assembly Hall on Tuesday evening. Indiana has shown the ability to beat ranked foes on its homecourt in conference play, but it’s also shown the ability to lose to every Big Ten team in conference with a sub-.500 record.

The bleeding can stop with a win Tuesday, but is the wound already too deep?

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  • Outoftheloop

    Who is actually pretty good at coaching.

  • Outoftheloop

    Indiana is at the “next level’ and the one beyond that.

  • Ole Man

    Have tried to say the same thing all year, only to be shouted down.
    In Yogi’s defense, however, he has been asked to carry a tremendous load by CTC.
    Not saying that’s the reason for some of the points you bring out, but it certainly could be a contributor.

  • Outoftheloop

    I am very disappointed in Dan Dakich. Yes I know that it hurt when IU said “No” to him and “Yes” to Crean, but get over it Dan! Dan took a lot of cheap shots at IU-Crean in the last few games (as if he-Dan-had been a good coach,but the record shows he was only an OK coach, in the middle leagues). He had a “shot” at IU, he was 1-3 with 3 NBA guys (Gordon, White, Crawford and some other good players, yes it was tough, but it is always “tough”!).

  • SCHoosier

    I’m afraid “the wound” referred too is fatal for this team this year..and certainly for the 2015 recruiting efforts. Lucky IU has the 2014 LOI’s locked up. Don’t you k now JBjr, Max and Rob J are saying “WTF”??

  • Outoftheloop

    They would have to sit out a year and they don’t share your neurosis.

  • Outoftheloop

    But Coach Dakich’s record was mediocre in the “middle leagues”. He needs to get over it. Dakich will NEVER be the Indiana Coach!

  • Outoftheloop

    Excellent literary allusion!!

  • Outoftheloop

    He is both good and well known in the State of Indiana.

  • Outoftheloop

    I agree with everything that you said. However, IU gave up in the second half against Purdue. That is unacceptable! That is on the Coach!

  • Outoftheloop

    Yogi, Stan, James and Robert. That willl be the best group of guards all on the same team that I have ever seen at IU!

  • Outoftheloop

    Plus plenty of “sour grapes”!

  • KmanCRK

    I have always loved Yogi and a Will but I am seriously doubting their in court leadership. As Dakich pointed out many times, Yogi was the only one talking on Def. That falls on our two leaders to bring these younger or less experienced kids along like last years guys did for Yogi. All year long as soon as the pressure picks up, everyone but Yogi folds like a lawn chair.

  • KmanCRK

    Can you throw Purdue in as one of your hot teams since they shot 25% better on the same night we had no ability to hit a layup.

  • Outoftheloop

    Dan was not good enough of a coach to get the job! He worked with the team for most of the year and had total control at the end. He was 1-3 with 3 NBA guys: Gordon, White and Crawford and some other good players. He had a chance and could not do anything with it. Yes, it was a “tough” situation. So what? If he had gotten the team to buy in to him and gone 3-3, he would have been hired!

  • IUbriz

    Agreed, last few years all we heard about were the gym rats….how Much time do coaches actually get to be at practice with the players during the season? Is there a limit does anyone know?

  • notfargj

    hands down, you have the best profile name. dick pepperfield will go down as the best play-by-play commentator of all time.

    yours,

    jackie moon

  • HoosierFan76

    To get an assist, your teammate has to make a shot. Who, other than NV, makes shots on a consistent basis right now? It’s easy to want Yogi to get assists – I understand where you’re coming from there – but it’s a lot harder to get them when IU is so bad at making shots.

    I think he’ll have a ton more assists next year when there are other players on the team who can consistently make shots.

  • G

    When discussing the shortcomings of this team, yogi’s name shouldn’t be mentioned. He’s one of the best point guards in the country, period. Without him this team would be a wreck. I don’t even want to hear about his lack of leadership. Dude is killing it out there. Lay off yogi.

  • KmanCRK

    Maybe you should his record the last couple of years. And if he would have had those stacked teams at IU 4yrs ago and not won a title, he would getting killed by everyone on here.

  • HoosierFan76

    Or fart jokes… (forum reference)

  • Court Storming Hoosier

    I actually think it would not be that hard for Yogi to get assists with this current team. In the one game where we have moved the ball (i.e.Wisconsin) we had like 14-15 assists. That is a hell of a lot better than our current average of like 10-11.

    I agree with you that other than NV, nobody on this team can consistently make a shot. However, I honestly believe that ball movement fixes that. Unfortunately, we love to stand around dribbling at half court/passing around the perimeter to no end for 25 seconds and chuck up a bad look.

  • Apoc

    It does call for an opinion and reasonable minds can disagree, but the problem is..can you disagree with sound, logical arguments. Yours does not provide any, only the hint that there “could be”. The proof is in the pudding at this point, but I’m still waiting for the answer to these questions. At some point, you have to be brutally honest with yourself.

  • yimyames

    I saw that tweet and thought the exact same thing.

  • VAHoosier

    I actually don’t disagree with that. But if you’re old enough to remember going against him as a player (one of the bigger whiners PU has produced), then it is hard to get your mind around my statement.

  • Apoc

    If you consider getting open look after open look, getting fouled and making it to the line all night long “hot”, then so be it. How many open looks did Crean’s 2-3 zone give them? I saw wide open three attempt after three attempt, and dozens of wide open jump shots in the middle of the zone. In man-to-man, there was no answer for their penetration.
    What I consider “hot” is Yogi jacking up three’s with 2 defenders in his face and hitting them. Does this happen all the time? No, but in the UM game, that’s what we got.

  • yimyames

    I can’t stand when a coach does this after his rotation guys gets their butts handed to them. Make them stay out there for the duration.

  • HoosierFan76

    You’re right that there is no ball movement, but that may also be because there is no movement without the ball many times. If guys are just standing around, especially in areas where they can’t or won’t make shots (the perimeter), IU is a really easy team to guard.

    Better ball movement would certainly help, but if opponents continue to pack the lane defensively, IU will have difficulty scoring if nobody is hitting from the perimeter.

  • yimyames

    Why in the hell is AE passing up wide open threes just so he can attempt a drive, resulting in a turnover? Is this what coaching is telling him to do?

  • KmanCRK

    I agree with the exception of the fact that if I were him and I was working as hard as he is, I’d be riding these others guy’s asses like no other. I would like to see that type of leadership out of him. With everything he is doing, I’d say he has the right to be the on-court coach and help these kids realize they aren’t playing with the appropriate level of toughness, grit, and attitude.

  • yimyames

    Honestly the moderation has gotten out of hand. I have always believed the best moderator are ones not seen. Seems like nowadays every other comment is from a moderator. It’s like going up the highway and constantly seeing cops writing tickets for going 5 over. Makes you not even want to go that route anymore.

  • yimyames

    Have you watched some of these recruits? Yeah I’m questioning the “good recruiter” and “good talent evaluator” stuff. Crean has recruited a bunch of non fundamental basketball players.

  • VAHoosier

    My point is not to disagree with your conclusion; I more or less agree with it. My point is to challenge the implication that there is some logical proof that will inexorably lead to the conclusion that CTC is a bad coach. Evaluating a basketball coach is a pretty subjective thing.

  • yimyames

    Well the team missed like 17 fg in a row. No one’s getting assists.

  • yimyames

    Applaud the effort!

  • VAHoosier

    I don’t see this at all. To take your points in turn: He is shooting 42% on 3’s for the season. Yes, he has an occasional bad shooting night, as all players do (even Jordy put together some pretty bad nights toward the end of last season). But 42% is a very good clip, and is by FAR the best on our team (besides NV, who, I think we all agree, should not be taking as many 3’s as Yogi). After watching every game this year, my impression of Yogi is not that he “misses a lot of layups; on the contrary, I think he is an excellent finisher. He does over dribble and will sometimes force plays and occasionally gets stuck in the air, but I put that on CTC’s system, not on Yogi. Yogi is asked to carry this offense, and the “system” he’s in emphasizes shot-making from the guard position off the dribble. If you look at the shoes Yogi is filing from last year, he is being asked to fill his own in being PG and handling the ball, he is asked to fill Jordy’s in being our main perimeter threat, and he is being asked to fill Victor’s in being our main threat to break down the defense. In a manner of speaking, he is filling the role of three terrific players from last season. That’s a lot.

  • VAHoosier

    Agree completely with your second paragraph. And that is on coaching, not Yogi.

  • yimyames

    It amazes me that espn puts him on every IU game, as he blatantly bashes the program. It’s disrespectful, and unprofessional imo.

  • MillaRed

    Put Yogi on Duke or Syracuse and the kid is a top 5 sophomore at worst. He’s on a team that can’t hold on to the ball or shoot. He could average 8 assists a game. But not on this team.

  • MillaRed

    And he’s our best defender.

  • ForeverIU

    Absolutely how I’ve always felt. We will never be a good team without even scoring from at least five players.

  • IUBizmark

    So who do you pick to lead IU when Crean is asked to leave?

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  • MillaRed

    I realize leadership is being scrutinized and it should be. But I’m not looking at the current state of The Hoosiers and starting there in terms of our issues.

    CTC has completely lost this team. It’s plain to see. We are a turnover machine, we are heading toward the cellar in the B1G. And that just doesn’t make any sense. He jus isn’t handling this team well. It’s unfortunate.

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  • deebo

    I agree

  • MillaRed

    That’s been going on for 15 years. Dominique James did it, Oladipo did it, it’s not Yogi. All you have to is watch the tape from yesterday. Dakich will make it very clear. We aren’t running an offense. What choice do you have but to dribble and pray someone sets a screen?

  • RonB

    Based on how well these kids shoot the basketball and turn it over I am not sure mass defections would be a bad thing. The kids coming in next year can shoot the basketball!

  • IU Stuggling

    As a Season Ticket Holder, I have to agree with Dan D. on IU’s pre-Big Ten schedule. To pay for Tickets to see Kankakee State etc. 8 Home Cup Cakes did not get this Young Team ready for the Big Ten. In fact, it really hurts them, as they develop skills against lower competition they will not work against better competition. FRED GLASS & TOM CREAN: Come up with a Schedule that will give the Team a Chance to improve.

  • MillaRed

    Totally agree. They are booing Crean. If we gave our players a truth serum, I totally believe they would tell us Coach is struggling. The pulse of the team is weak.