Film Session: Noah Vonleh’s touches

  • 01/07/2014 7:46 am in

As noted in Monday’s Five Takeaways, both Tom Crean and Will Sheehey spoke on Noah Vonleh’s role in IU’s offense after Saturday’s loss to Michigan State. Crean called for him to become more demanding, while Sheehey said he needs to work to get easier touches while the team needs to work harder to get him open.

Crean and Sheehey’s comments are valid. But IU’s first half certainly showed a team working to get him looks and the freshman getting opportunities in several ways. The second half, though, spoke more to Crean and Sheehey’s words.

A look at Vonleh’s game in the latest edition of Film Session:

From the opening tip, the Hoosiers were looking for Vonleh.

He first tries a post on the right block with Sheehey trying to enter the ball. Next, Troy Williams attempts to enter the ball to him off the top of the key and it’s kicked. (Williams had a similar kick result when trying to enter the ball during Indiana’s loss to Illinois on New Year’s Eve.) On the inbounds, Vonleh is able to seal Adreian Payne and calls for the ball from Williams off the right wing. Williams dribbles into the paint and passes to Vonleh, who now has Payne in front of him.

From there Vonleh makes a move on Payne and narrowly avoids getting the ball swiped by Gary Harris — who has come to double — and scores with his left hand:

One minute later, Vonleh gets his first of two opportunities driving the ball off the top of the key. It’s something Cody Zeller did on occasion last season, as he used his quickness and ball skills to try and get by bigger, slower defenders. Vonleh draws a non-shooting foul on Payne:

Vonleh was subbed out at the 14:49 for Hanner Mosquera-Perea. Indiana’s other possessions during the first five minutes and change that didn’t end in Vonleh’s hands but ended in scores were pretty good. Yogi Ferrell hit a layup and a 3-pointer, Sheehey got to the line and sunk two free throws. The other offensive possessions during this stretch were an ill-advised, early jumper from Williams and two turnovers.

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  • SCHoosier

    In my experience there are three ways to make post entry passes difficult: 1) An athletic defender who can “front” the offense’s post player 2) If the entry pass is successful..have the defense “double up” on the pass receiver 3) Play in your face defense against those offensive players most likely to try the entry pass. Simply put..MSU did all three of those things effectively as Coach Izzo addressed in his post-game comments. Against quality teams..IU’s defense has trouble with all three of those defensive executions. NV has to be careful fronting to avoid fouls..weak-side help defense is often late..if at all.. and our man to man effort has really been weak in the two conference games IMO.

  • notfargj

    thanks, ryan.

  • PDXHoosier

    Some of these possessions are painful to watch. The team looks completely lost at times.
    And the post feed from the top of the key makes me cringe. There is no angle to make that pass. everyone knows that.

  • Indiana_Banners

    Thank you for this series. I don’t understand how people can watch IU games and think that no one is trying to get Vonleh the ball. He’s not a perfect interior receiver and we certainly don’t have perfect interior passes. Defenses CAN take away the interior pass. Against MSU there were some highs and lows in terms of getting the ball to Vonleh, but the comments that act like he isn’t utilized need to stop.

  • Cothern

    They couldn’t feed the post last year! It cost them a national champ! If you watch the post during their games you will see Vonleh seal his defender and be wide open with no entry pass, same as zeller last year. After time he stops working hard to seal his man. You would think they would work on this in practice, but apparently not.

  • yimyames

    Zeller got the ball plenty at the end of last season. How did that work out? The mistake last year was not playing through are best player, which was Oladipo.

    Vs Syracuse
    Oladipo 5 for 6
    Zeller 3 for 11 (led team in attempts)
    (not) feeding zeller did not cost a championship

  • Cothern

    Most of Zellers touches were at the elbow and he would face the basket. Then he lowered his head and tried to power to the rim, which in turn caused turnovers. Zeller had quick post moves with his back to the basket and he was also a skilled passer. Getting the ball 5 feet from the basket with his defender on his back gave him several options and this rarely happened.

  • Indiana_Banners

    Whose fault is that? Players catch the ball at the elbow and take it in to post up all the time. Kobe is famous for doing it late in his career. You can establish post position after you get the ball too. Zeller got the ball, he made mistakes. Saying not feeding Zeller cost them a chippy is just inaccurate.

  • Cothern

    If you have ever played basketball then you would know that having the ball in the post as opposed to maintaining a dribble into the post are two vastly different situations. When your man is on your back five feet from the basket and you have not yet put the ball on the floor then a spin move either way is lethal, which zeller was amazing at doing. You can say whatever you want about this team or last years team. I’m a huge IU fan, but I have realized that Crean is not a good coach, he does recruit well, but his substitutions are insane and for the life of me, I still can’t figure out what we are trying to do in our half c

  • Cothern

    Court sets and it seems the team doesn’t either. Anyway, he’s not going anywhere so Go IU! Lol

  • Callowayman

    I’m a huge IU fan, and everything you said is right on. It is so hard to watch the offense game after game. There are so many coaches that would love to have our talent, but can’t recruit it to their schools. We will always be a team that gets beat by teams with less talent and rarely beat teams with good coaching. You think Brad Stevens would have got us some easy buckets last year against Syracuse? No brainer.