An early look at the 2011-12 frontcourt

  • 08/23/2011 6:49 am in

We detailed a few early backcourt storylines on Monday. Today, a look at the frontcourt:

— Cody Zeller’s arrival: Fresh off a summer where some veteran players appear to have taken an important step in maturity and leadership, Zeller’s inclusion should do much to keep the good vibes going in Bloomington. It’s been said before, but the Washington native’s ability to do a lot of fundamentally sound and smart things on both sides of the ball will not only give Indiana a high-level frontcourt talent for the first time in the Tom Crean era, but it’s likely the other four guys on the court with Zeller will reap the benefits of his game, something that should translate into the ultimate goal: more wins.

— What will we see from Tom Pritchard?: After averaging almost 10 points a game as a freshman, Pritchard’s offensive game the last two seasons has suffered. Last season, he used the least amount of possessions– garnering a “nearly invisible” tag from KenPom — of any player getting rotation minutes. Pritchard also made just 34.8 percent of his free throws in 2010-11. The addition of Zeller could allow Pritchard some more confidence in a secondary frontcourt role. Additionally, Derek Elston noted in comments he made to the media earlier this month that “the free-throw thing is not a big issues anymore” for Pritchard. And if Pritchard can show this kind of swagger and fire alongside Zeller consistently this season, his senior year could be one in which he rebounds a bit.

— Can a three-man rotation get it done?: After Zeller and Pritchard, Elston — who may be in for a bit of rebound himself if he’s back to full health this season — could exist as a sound third option in the frontcourt. But with the Hoosiers losing out on Garrett Green, Bobby Capobianco’s transfer and Jeff Howard not seeing much time in 2010-11, depth may be a concern for the Hoosiers. It’s likely Christian Watford will be called upon to play the 4-spot at times next season, though it would probably benefit the team more to keep him out on the wing as much as possible.

— Fouling: It’s no secret Indiana fouled far too often last season, which kept them from having more success on the court. After Capobianco (10.7 fouls per 40 minutes), Pritchard (6.5) and Elston (5.7) ranked as the biggest culprits. If Elston and Pritchard are able to flash more improvement in this area by moving their feet and playing straight up, it’ll make the aforementioned depth issues less of a concern. But should fouling keep these two off the court on a consistent basis, Zeller may have to shoulder more of the load at times.

(Photo credit: Tom Crean on TwitPic)

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  • the fouling issue shouldn’t be solely placed on the bigs.  At least half the blame should go to the guards for not keeping their man in front of them and limiting penetration.  just my opinion.

    great post as always!

  • Anonymous

    I agree. I also hope Elston’s health had some bearing on his foul trouble.  I can only imagine how hard it must be to move laterally with a hernia.

  • Anonymous

    I agree. I also hope Elston’s health had some bearing on his foul trouble.  I can only imagine how hard it must be to move laterally with a hernia.

  • Anonymous

    Plenty of blame to go around on the fouling issue. The bigs bear some blame, more at certain times than others, but I’m in the camp of those that see the biggest part of the blame being on the shoulders of our perimeter players not stopping penetration. I see this as possibly having a domino effect too. The more fouls DE & TP pick up the more pressure that is put on CZ and the more he has to play the 5 and not the 4. The more CZ has to play the 5 the greater the chance that he gets into foul trouble as well. The more foul trouble he is in the less he is on the floor and…..

  • Anonymous

    Plenty of blame to go around on the fouling issue. The bigs bear some blame, more at certain times than others, but I’m in the camp of those that see the biggest part of the blame being on the shoulders of our perimeter players not stopping penetration. I see this as possibly having a domino effect too. The more fouls DE & TP pick up the more pressure that is put on CZ and the more he has to play the 5 and not the 4. The more CZ has to play the 5 the greater the chance that he gets into foul trouble as well. The more foul trouble he is in the less he is on the floor and…..

  • Will sheehey can play some 4 if needed.  He is a good rebounder and has a great wingspan.  He can guard a four like Green from michigan st. and smaller fours that arent 250 6’10, he will see minutes there also.  Watford will play some four in smaller lineups, or if we can not stay out of foul trouble.  That doesnt mean he will have to play down low on offense.  he will be able to bring them out and create mismatches.  One thing I do not want to see this year is forced offensive from him or verdell.

  • MillaRed

    I for one believe we have a sleeper that can plug the 4 spot when we need him the most…..

    Daniel Moore?

  • MillaRed

    I for one believe we have a sleeper that can plug the 4 spot when we need him the most…..

    Daniel Moore?

  • MillaRed

    I for one believe we have a sleeper that can plug the 4 spot when we need him the most…..

    Daniel Moore?

  • Anonymous

    Fouls are a bigger issue in the frontcourt simply because we lack depth there. If Pritch and Elston are on the bench with fouls both CW and Zeller are forced out of position. Sure they will both have to do this a few minutes per game but when it is for a long stretch we will struggle.
    I hope Watford can flourish at the 3 this year and be an All Big Ten guy. He should have more room to operate thanks to Zeller. If he can connect on his jumper as a result a lot of good things will happen.

  • Anonymous

    Cody Zeller is going to be great, even early as a freshman. However, Pritchard and Elston must show big improvement for IU to achieve a 20+ win season and get to the NCAA Tourney. Pritchard must hit 60%+ on FT’s; he must have an offensive scoring game out to 10-12′; he must play 25+ min with 3.5 fouls or less on average; he must move his feet well and forget the “hard hedge” 25′ from the rim. Elston has to learn to relax and to play with the energy and passion that he exhibited late in his freshman year; he must shoot over 50% on 2’s and 40% on 3’s; he must rebound at over 6 per game; he must learn to contest shots and block out for rebounds rather than try to block every shot; he must smile and bounce on the court. Good luck to each guy, we need them all.

  • Anonymous

    Zeller is a great addition.  He will be able to provide some much needed down low presence, but the success of the frontcourt as mentioned will rely more on the improvement of our now upperclassmen.  For all the great skills and game smarts Zeller has, he will still be a freshman. We’ve all said it before, but a lot of pressure shouldn’t be put on Zeller to resurrect a poor frontcourt from last season.  I expect a learning curve from him and improvement all season long.

  • Anonymous

    Zeller is a great addition.  He will be able to provide some much needed down low presence, but the success of the frontcourt as mentioned will rely more on the improvement of our now upperclassmen.  For all the great skills and game smarts Zeller has, he will still be a freshman. We’ve all said it before, but a lot of pressure shouldn’t be put on Zeller to resurrect a poor frontcourt from last season.  I expect a learning curve from him and improvement all season long.

  • Anonymous

    Jeff Howard could be the Erik Surh of the squad this year, we happen to be short in his position, but if he can just hold his own, we have enough talent to take care of the rest. You would assume he has gained some weight in the offseason, and can’t play any worse than Richard Mandeville, Todd Lindeman, or Bobby Capobianco…..I’d rather use him when the fouls are mounting, then force Watford out of his position. Defending a bigger stronger player takes a big toll on your body and limits production at the other end. Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Michigan and MSU have good starting front courts, but also lack depth. Penn St, NU, Purdue, Illinois, have poor front courts, only OSU will have talent and depth that will be really tough for us to match up against. 

  • Anonymous

    I have always believed that Pritchard was playing (time) above his skill level.  He was recruited to be a possible senior starter, and some role bench play the other two years.  You have to throw his Fr. year out, because no one was really taking that team seriously that was playing against them.  I believe that he will be the center when he is in, but that Zeller may be called to fill that role when he sits.  Zeller will play center about 50% of his time.  That sure beats sitting the bench most of the time, though.  This is going to be a big learning year for Cody.  It won’t always be pretty, but will make him tough for the coming seasons.

  • MillaRed

    We have to believe that the staff is looking for Howard to contribute this season. I’m sure he will be in the regular practice rotation with the starters to feel things out.

    We need him. Plain and simple.

  • MillaRed

    We have to believe that the staff is looking for Howard to contribute this season. I’m sure he will be in the regular practice rotation with the starters to feel things out.

    We need him. Plain and simple.

  • MillaRed

    We have to believe that the staff is looking for Howard to contribute this season. I’m sure he will be in the regular practice rotation with the starters to feel things out.

    We need him. Plain and simple.

  • MillaRed

    Will Cody be good enough now to force double teams? I think sometimes yes. And this opens up the kickout three and weakside offensive rebound. This is where TP and DE can benefit from the 6’11” CZ in the post.

  • MillaRed

    Will Cody be good enough now to force double teams? I think sometimes yes. And this opens up the kickout three and weakside offensive rebound. This is where TP and DE can benefit from the 6’11” CZ in the post.

  • MillaRed

    Will Cody be good enough now to force double teams? I think sometimes yes. And this opens up the kickout three and weakside offensive rebound. This is where TP and DE can benefit from the 6’11” CZ in the post.

  • MillaRed

    Will Cody be good enough now to force double teams? I think sometimes yes. And this opens up the kickout three and weakside offensive rebound. This is where TP and DE can benefit from the 6’11” CZ in the post.

  • CreamandCrimson

    Tremendous point.  I (and several others) mentioned as soon as we lost out on Garrett Green that Jeff Howard would need to counted on this season (and next).  Pritchard is foul-prone and Zeller is a freshman.  Elston hasn’t shown us he can consistently produce.  I believe Pritchard’s foul-rate is going to drop this season but he will still in foul trouble in a lot of games.  I also believe Elston’s health will allow him to perform better.  Still, that leaves us with three guys for two spots.  Watford is more valuable as a 3 than he is a 4 against Big Ten competition.  Howard will be relied on for rebounding and defense.  If he can fill those roles for 10 minutes a game, it will help immensely.  

  • CreamandCrimson

    Tremendous point.  I (and several others) mentioned as soon as we lost out on Garrett Green that Jeff Howard would need to counted on this season (and next).  Pritchard is foul-prone and Zeller is a freshman.  Elston hasn’t shown us he can consistently produce.  I believe Pritchard’s foul-rate is going to drop this season but he will still in foul trouble in a lot of games.  I also believe Elston’s health will allow him to perform better.  Still, that leaves us with three guys for two spots.  Watford is more valuable as a 3 than he is a 4 against Big Ten competition.  Howard will be relied on for rebounding and defense.  If he can fill those roles for 10 minutes a game, it will help immensely.  

  • Anonymous

    I think between he and Wat being able to shoot with range, take thier man off of the dribble or post they will, together, pose serious matchup problems.  If Crean is smart, and I think he is, we should be able to utilize a lot of high low posts as well as backcuts to the rim.  If Sheehey / Victor’s shot is better on the wing alongside Verdell or Hulls it could get nasty rather quickly. 

    For the first time in a while, I like our ability to score.

    As has been mentioned it comes down to defense. I tend to think that we need to do 2 things.  Firstly, guards need to contain players on the wing from penetration.  Secondly, other than the 25′ hedging fouls we draw, we play typically decend defense in the post.  We just don’t finish the play.  Our guys at the last minute try and block the shot and do too much.  A lot of times good defense is forcing bad shots.  Too often our big men bailed the opposition out from a bad shot.  That is discipline and I believe the players and Crean will correct that.

    I see big strides this year. 

  • Anonymous

    I think between he and Wat being able to shoot with range, take thier man off of the dribble or post they will, together, pose serious matchup problems.  If Crean is smart, and I think he is, we should be able to utilize a lot of high low posts as well as backcuts to the rim.  If Sheehey / Victor’s shot is better on the wing alongside Verdell or Hulls it could get nasty rather quickly. 

    For the first time in a while, I like our ability to score.

    As has been mentioned it comes down to defense. I tend to think that we need to do 2 things.  Firstly, guards need to contain players on the wing from penetration.  Secondly, other than the 25′ hedging fouls we draw, we play typically decend defense in the post.  We just don’t finish the play.  Our guys at the last minute try and block the shot and do too much.  A lot of times good defense is forcing bad shots.  Too often our big men bailed the opposition out from a bad shot.  That is discipline and I believe the players and Crean will correct that.

    I see big strides this year. 

  • eph521

    It’s almost surreal reading an article about IU’s frontcourt and at the top seeing a picture of Cody Zeller wearing an IU uniform. Better days are ahead.

  • Anonymous

    Hulls, VJIII, and Wat all had major issues in this regard. VO and Sheehey earning more minutes will help, but those three need to approach defense with a different attitude. We’re too thin on the front line for Hulls and VJIII to get beat so often. Same goes for Wat.

  • CZ is the real deal.  He helps simply because he has height to go with his athletic ability.  We now have a real shot blocker for the first time in the CTC era.   The D will benefit from this.  The other key is his bball intellect.  He has been doing this for over 10 yrs (fighting against his stronger and older brothers and basically nurtured in this game since grade school) and he can block without fouling (other than Will and VO the only player we have to do this) and he can distribute on offense.  What do you get? Instant transition offense – more    easy   points with fewer TO.  That is why I favor the athletic line up of CZ, VO, Mo,CWat, and Hulls at the point.  Hulls will be quicker and he is deadly from the three so that in the set offense both he and CZ can also distribute without those stupid TO….  Elston is a big question  – tough to know if he can handle the extra expectations – but also with the biggest upside.  If he matures he would be the second biggest reason for improvement this year (other than Mo if he is healthy) and I think that CZ and DE  playing at a high level would get us to 18+ wins and a NCAA berth…I am assuming that CWat plays at the high level he has and that VJ III decreases his TO and plays that magical midrange game he excells at….

  • CZ is the real deal.  He helps simply because he has height to go with his athletic ability.  We now have a real shot blocker for the first time in the CTC era.   The D will benefit from this.  The other key is his bball intellect.  He has been doing this for over 10 yrs (fighting against his stronger and older brothers and basically nurtured in this game since grade school) and he can block without fouling (other than Will and VO the only player we have to do this) and he can distribute on offense.  What do you get? Instant transition offense – more    easy   points with fewer TO.  That is why I favor the athletic line up of CZ, VO, Mo,CWat, and Hulls at the point.  Hulls will be quicker and he is deadly from the three so that in the set offense both he and CZ can also distribute without those stupid TO….  Elston is a big question  – tough to know if he can handle the extra expectations – but also with the biggest upside.  If he matures he would be the second biggest reason for improvement this year (other than Mo if he is healthy) and I think that CZ and DE  playing at a high level would get us to 18+ wins and a NCAA berth…I am assuming that CWat plays at the high level he has and that VJ III decreases his TO and plays that magical midrange game he excells at….

  • JerryCT

    The three most popular fouls by DE and TP are all related to our backcourt:

    1. Attempting to defend a penetrating guard or getting back late on their own man after forcing the pass

    2. Attempting to avoid the penetration by hedging the screen our guys cannot get through

    3. Urgently setting moving screens because no one can penetrate without it

    At times we saw TP forced to defend Jordan Taylor and Darius Morris w/o fouling and having success. 

    Unless we want to see CZ foul out too our backcourt needs to make dramatic progress .

  • Anonymous

    Really makes me nervous having Pritchard and Elston as a big part of the rotation. I really wish we could of gotten Green but oh well. My guess is we will see alot of smaller lineups and Watford having to play the 4 alot. Until the Pritht and Elston show my something different I will expect more of the same from them. Yikes!

  • Anonymous

    I thought Green would have been a win-win, but it is not a huge loss.  I would rather have the 5 best players on the floor than just some ok bigs for size.  We will probably go small more than we want, but I think Crean would have done that anyway.  This is a wing heavy team, and I think you can expect 2-3 wings on the floor at all times.  College teams don’t seem to play 1,2,3,4,5 positions as much as they used to.  It seems like more go with a PF and then wings and a point guard or combo guard.  I guess my point of this response:  I don’t think Green was going to be an improvement above TP and DE, and we may not normally need any more of those level players(except in foul trouble).

  • CreamandCrimson

    I agree with you up until the end of your post.  “We may not normally need any more of those level players (except in foul trouble).” 

    Unfortunately, foul trouble the problem.  Green wouldn’t have been a talent upgrade over Elston and Pritchard.  However, he is 6’11” and foul trouble is inevitable with those two.  I am optimistic that Pritchard and Elston will foul less with improved defense from the perimeter.  I don’t think the problem will completely go away.  We are going to improve in that area but we won’t go from one of the worst fouling teams in the country to being in the better 20% in that area.  Our frontcourt depth is going to be a problem.  Hopefully, not a consistent problem and Jeff Howard can step up when it is one. 

    I am not blaming Elston and Pritchard for all of their problems.  Elston was injured last season and that limited movement.  Our backcourt often had two or three defensive liabilities on the floor at one time.  Jerry is dead on, if that area doesn’t improve, the frontcourt foul trouble will continue.  I know Crean knows this and Hulls, Jones, VO, Watford, Will, Mo, etc. are working on it, hope it pays off.

  • CreamandCrimson

    I agree with you up until the end of your post.  “We may not normally need any more of those level players (except in foul trouble).” 

    Unfortunately, foul trouble the problem.  Green wouldn’t have been a talent upgrade over Elston and Pritchard.  However, he is 6’11” and foul trouble is inevitable with those two.  I am optimistic that Pritchard and Elston will foul less with improved defense from the perimeter.  I don’t think the problem will completely go away.  We are going to improve in that area but we won’t go from one of the worst fouling teams in the country to being in the better 20% in that area.  Our frontcourt depth is going to be a problem.  Hopefully, not a consistent problem and Jeff Howard can step up when it is one. 

    I am not blaming Elston and Pritchard for all of their problems.  Elston was injured last season and that limited movement.  Our backcourt often had two or three defensive liabilities on the floor at one time.  Jerry is dead on, if that area doesn’t improve, the frontcourt foul trouble will continue.  I know Crean knows this and Hulls, Jones, VO, Watford, Will, Mo, etc. are working on it, hope it pays off.

  • SAMPSONITE/way off

    On a Positive note, I saw Jordan hulls at smokin jacks rib shack a month or so ago and he really seemed to be enjoying his meal.

  • Anonymous

    You are right.  I guess my feeling was that Green was only going to play when foul trouble came up.  I would rather have Elston and Pritchard (both with 2-3 years experience in this system) playing, than a dude who was just stopping by for a year.  Some people on here already had him in the starting line up.  I would bet that Jeff Howard is going to be a better choice than Green would have been, based mostly on experience.

  • Anonymous

    I am interested in seeing what kind of schemes Creans puts Zeller in to help him succeed. He and Wat should be our first low post scoring options. Zeller is offensively versatile..I think we’ll learn something about Crean’s coaching abilities (or lack of) based on how Cody is spotlighted in the offense. Like the kid..but I’ve heard this improvement stuff on TP before. Just count me as a doubting Thomas..believe it when I see it..and I hope I do. Elston has a role to play..if he is healthy now..he should get plenty of minutes..because I expect some foul trouble for Zeller when B-10 body banging starts…he is a freshman afterall.

  • Anonymous

    I am interested in seeing what kind of schemes Creans puts Zeller in to help him succeed. He and Wat should be our first low post scoring options. Zeller is offensively versatile..I think we’ll learn something about Crean’s coaching abilities (or lack of) based on how Cody is spotlighted in the offense. Like the kid..but I’ve heard this improvement stuff on TP before. Just count me as a doubting Thomas..believe it when I see it..and I hope I do. Elston has a role to play..if he is healthy now..he should get plenty of minutes..because I expect some foul trouble for Zeller when B-10 body banging starts…he is a freshman afterall.

  • Anonymous

    I am interested in seeing what kind of schemes Creans puts Zeller in to help him succeed. He and Wat should be our first low post scoring options. Zeller is offensively versatile..I think we’ll learn something about Crean’s coaching abilities (or lack of) based on how Cody is spotlighted in the offense. Like the kid..but I’ve heard this improvement stuff on TP before. Just count me as a doubting Thomas..believe it when I see it..and I hope I do. Elston has a role to play..if he is healthy now..he should get plenty of minutes..because I expect some foul trouble for Zeller when B-10 body banging starts…he is a freshman afterall.

  • Anonymous

    I am interested in seeing what kind of schemes Creans puts Zeller in to help him succeed. He and Wat should be our first low post scoring options. Zeller is offensively versatile..I think we’ll learn something about Crean’s coaching abilities (or lack of) based on how Cody is spotlighted in the offense. Like the kid..but I’ve heard this improvement stuff on TP before. Just count me as a doubting Thomas..believe it when I see it..and I hope I do. Elston has a role to play..if he is healthy now..he should get plenty of minutes..because I expect some foul trouble for Zeller when B-10 body banging starts…he is a freshman afterall.

  • Anonymous

    I am interested in seeing what kind of schemes Creans puts Zeller in to help him succeed. He and Wat should be our first low post scoring options. Zeller is offensively versatile..I think we’ll learn something about Crean’s coaching abilities (or lack of) based on how Cody is spotlighted in the offense. Like the kid..but I’ve heard this improvement stuff on TP before. Just count me as a doubting Thomas..believe it when I see it..and I hope I do. Elston has a role to play..if he is healthy now..he should get plenty of minutes..because I expect some foul trouble for Zeller when B-10 body banging starts…he is a freshman afterall.

  • Anonymous

    Any play run for TP when Cody or Wat or Elston are in the line up is a wasted play. Offensive rebounding put backs..go for it TP

  • MillaRed

    I’m really not buying the “last year’s foul problems were because of the wings” theory. These guys made really, really dumb fouls last season. If a wing is beaten, all the big can do is “challenge” the shot, which we did very little of. By challenging instead of going for a block (or fouling) you can still put yourself in position for a rebound.

    The reality is the other team is going to score. What I hope has been learned, and learned well this off season, is the bigs are TOO valuable to foul at the high rate we have seen the last two years. I’m not saying give up on the play. I’m saying go straight up, or move back and force a jump shot. Cody is as smart as they come. He will get the point across I am sure.

  • MillaRed

    I’m really not buying the “last year’s foul problems were because of the wings” theory. These guys made really, really dumb fouls last season. If a wing is beaten, all the big can do is “challenge” the shot, which we did very little of. By challenging instead of going for a block (or fouling) you can still put yourself in position for a rebound.

    The reality is the other team is going to score. What I hope has been learned, and learned well this off season, is the bigs are TOO valuable to foul at the high rate we have seen the last two years. I’m not saying give up on the play. I’m saying go straight up, or move back and force a jump shot. Cody is as smart as they come. He will get the point across I am sure.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    I kept saying over and over and over again last year that you can have one (maybe two) slow guard or wing on the floor at the same time but never more than 2!  Last year we played Hulls, Jones, and Watford together too much IMO.  If you have say Hulls, VO(or Will), TP, Zeller or Jones, Watford, Sheehey, Elston, Zeller or something like that the faster, better defenders will help the slower guys out.  But if you put Jordy, VJ3, and CWat on the together, the other two bigs will constantly be in foul trouble!  CWat isn’t going to stay in front of most other 3’s and we all know that neither Jordy or VJ3 excel at staying in front of quicker guards. 

    Just my opinion but I would try not to play those three guys together hardly ever if you want CZ, TP, and DE to stay out of foul trouble!

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    I kept saying over and over and over again last year that you can have one (maybe two) slow guard or wing on the floor at the same time but never more than 2!  Last year we played Hulls, Jones, and Watford together too much IMO.  If you have say Hulls, VO(or Will), TP, Zeller or Jones, Watford, Sheehey, Elston, Zeller or something like that the faster, better defenders will help the slower guys out.  But if you put Jordy, VJ3, and CWat on the together, the other two bigs will constantly be in foul trouble!  CWat isn’t going to stay in front of most other 3’s and we all know that neither Jordy or VJ3 excel at staying in front of quicker guards. 

    Just my opinion but I would try not to play those three guys together hardly ever if you want CZ, TP, and DE to stay out of foul trouble!

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    I pray every day that we DON’T see forced offense from CWat and VJ3 this year!  I got so sick of watching them get stripped on their way to the basket last year that I actually turned off a couple games for the first time in my life!  Everyone on the floor could tell when they got that look, especially the other team because they just collapsed and took the ball away.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    I think 32-35% from the three-point line would be sufficient.  You don’t see too many 6-9, 240 lbs guys cut from DE’s mold shooting 40+ percent out there.  33% would keep guys honest when guarding him and force them to come out instead of packing it in like they did the second half last year.  Everything else I would have to agree with.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Let’s hope that the past three seasons were not a good representation of the roles our bigs will play once we have some offensive talent in there.  I will kill myself if I have to watch CWat or VJ3 dribble for 25 seconds then try to force the ball on the drive while our bigs stand 20 feet from the basket watching.  I want to watch more of an old school pick and role game.  John Stockton and Karl Malone weren’t the two fastest athletes in basketball for the years they played together (don’t argue with me because I loved watching them as much as possible) but they were quick enough to make the pick and role game work for them both.  Jordy and shoot the crap out of the ball and Zeller has a wide array of offensive skills so I can see a screen set by CZ on Jordy’s man to get him free leading to many, many scoring opportunities for those two as well as the other threats on the floor who are left unguarded!