Five takeaways from Indiana’s win over Iowa

  • 12/05/2017 9:16 am in

Indiana snapped a two-game skid on Monday night by knocking off Iowa 77-64 at Simon Skjodt Assembly Hall. The victory moved the Hoosiers to 5-4 overall and 1-1 in Big Ten play.

Here’s a look at five takeaways from the win over the Hawkeyes:

· Juwan Morgan’s ascent continues: On a team without a clearcut offensive leader, Juwan Morgan is emerging as a player the Hoosiers can rely on.

Morgan finished with 15 points and 10 rebounds in Monday’s win over Iowa. Through nine games, he’s the team’s leading scorer at 13.8 points per game.

While he’s yet to find his stroke from the perimeter, Morgan is excelling on the offensive glass and also with getting to the free throw line. Morgan’s offensive rebounding percentage is up from 11 as a sophomore to 12.5 this season. He’s also attempted a team-high 50 free throws and is shooting 78 percent from the line.

“I think he’s a guy on our team everyone’s looking at to get the job done on every given night,” Archie Miller said of Morgan. “And if you look at sort of how he’s playing, I think he’s become a key figure in terms of our stability.”

· Turnovers continue to trend downward: Indiana’s Achilles’ heel in previous seasons has been turnovers. Under Miller, taking care of the ball has been emphasized and valuing possessions is becoming a priority.

The Hoosiers had just 10 turnovers in Wednesday’s win over Iowa for a turnover percentage of 13.9. Through nine games, Indiana’s team turnover percentage is 17.4, which ranks 83rd nationally.

“It’s trending downward for sure,” Miller said. “I think a lot of it is just decision-making, and we’re not trying to hit the home run as much as we used to with the one-hand bounce pass or the one-hand baseball pass. I think we’re starting to eliminate some of those.”

· Hartman, Green provide boost from perimeter: The Hoosiers have struggled with 3-point shooting all season, but redshirt senior Collin Hartman and sophomore Devonte Green provided a major boost in the win over the Hawkeyes.

Hartman was 3-of-6 on 3s and finished with 13 points in 20 minutes off the bench. And Green was 2-of-4 on 3s and had 12 points in 25 minutes.

“Devonte is a spark plug. That’s what I can tell you,” Hartman said of Green. “He’s very explosive and he can do some crazy things and just kind of makes you look at it kind of weird. But he’s explosive and he can really help us when he’s playing simple and playing solid basketball, as you can see. So we love that when we get it out of him and we need that moving forward.”

Indiana finished the game 8-of-21 from distance after going a combined 7-of-28 in a pair of losses to Duke and Michigan.

· Davis rebounds from poor performance at Michigan: After finishing with just four points and one rebound in Saturday’s loss at Michigan, De’Ron Davis was a presence again on Monday.

The sophomore forward finished with 13 points, six rebounds, four blocks and two steals in 18 minutes.

However, Davis continues to struggle at the foul line as he shot just 3-of-9 from the line and is now 19-of-42 (45.2 percent) on the season. One of his misses last night was an airball and the other was a hard brick off of the back of the rim, which suggests his struggles from the line have become mental.

“He’s not a bad free throw shooter,” Hartman said of Davis. “He can make them in practice and stuff. He’s thinking about it too much. Just step up to the line and knock it down.”

· So far, Iowa is a major disappointment: The Hawkeyes were a trendy preseason pick to finish in the top half of the league, but the season is quickly going off the rails in Iowa City.

With Monday’s loss, Iowa is now 4-5 with losses in five of its last six games.

Three of Iowa’s four wins are against sub-300 KenPom competition and an 0-2 start in league play is going to be difficult to overcome.

Iowa looked lost offensively on Monday as the Hawkeyes had 18 turnovers and shot just 38.5 percent from the field.

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  • sarge

    You were being hateful in your post. I wouldn’t have responded had you not been so negative towards the current and former coach. When you post things like that it makes me wonder if you are a fan at all. Uncalled for and out of line. You know they are just words, but the wrong choice of words in the wrong setting fires people like me up. Maybe don’t be so condescending next time to those who actually make the program what it is. I have great respect for anyone who has any hand in Indiana basketball being what it is. Choose your words.

  • AJ_IU_ColtsFan

    Oh really? Wow, that’s not a statement I expected. I’m glad to hear this offense can go off at times, I’m just surprised to read it.

    Granted, this Hoosier squad is hardly some plodding team – even De’Ron can run the floor – but at the same time I didn’t exactly see Newkirk & RJ being a good Instant Offense type of shooter that JBJ was, even combined. And I don’t see De’Ron being the same level of agile-big-man-moving threat that Bryant was. Plus, there’s simply no analogue for OG on this year’s squad. So I thought the explosiveness was pretty much gone, and while the team could run transition plays, I didn’t see them suddenly dropping dimes on a team and setting them back on their heels. It’ll feel good to be wrong about that. I hope that wrongness on my part continues throughout the year, and that this team will be able to put together stretches that scare the bejeebus out of opponents.

    Anyway, thanks for the observations.

  • David Macer

    I wouldn’t call you an informed or knowledgeable fan.

  • Ivan Renko

    for one, you stated “jones off the bench”

    you realize he’s not even on the team anymore?

  • INUnivHoosier2

    When you say things like Josh Newkirk should be 6th man off the bench, your opinion is probably going to be taken to the woodshed.

  • coachv

    johnson has drifted left his entire carer at iu and even in high school. as a high school senior and an iu freshman he routinely landed 2 feet left of where he took off from the 3 pt line. the exception was from the top of the key where he landed 3-4 feet forward from where his jumper originated. you can see this in old youtube videos, including the 3 pt contest at midnight madness/hoosier hysteria his freshman year. he no longer jumps that far forward from straight away but he still lands a foot, foot and a half to his left from the wings. additionally, he leans back and slightly left on his 3’s and rotates his right shoulder forward too much. too much movement leads to too many variable to control leads to inconsistency. should be still thru the upper body as much as possible. think free throws…where he does not rotate the right shoulder forward. nor does he have any of these flaws in his mid-range jumper.

  • INUnivHoosier2

    Justin Smith will get a lot better. He’s physically gifted.

    DG is great when he doesn’t force the issue too much. Seems like he just makes some pretty bad decisions after making good plays. He’s a risk taker.

  • David Macer

    Get a room you three !!

  • Jethro Jones

    I always thought TC didnt care about turnovers because the style of play was fast and he thought he was getting more possessions with that style so a few more turnovers didnt matter in the long run. Looking at the number of possessions through the TC years vs. Archie’s first few games, it’s almost the same amount of possessions per game. So i give up. I have no idea why TC never emphasized taking care of the ball, but am glad Archie does.

  • marcusgresham

    If not for getting blocked out by McRoberts, Smith would have produced a dunk that would have rivaled the Sheehey drive and the Pritch putback.

  • IUBizmark

    Thank you for standing up for your opinions. This is an open forum and two people around here are trying to stifle everyone else’s opinions because they don’t agree. It’s getting out of hand.

  • HuntinHoosier86

    Hey, don’t get me wrong! I was right there with you thinking that our offensive explosiveness was “pretty much gone”, but I was proven wrong after those two runs. I believe it was an 11-0 run in the first half and an 18-0 run in the 2nd half.

    This team just really doesn’t have the deep perimeter threat that we’d gotten used to having under most Crean teams. However, they are really making a concerted effort to feed the post and take it to the rim WAY more than I’ve seen in recent years. This is an obvious statement to make, but worth saying again; Archie’s system is just different than Crean’s.

  • marcusgresham

    1. Indiana can beat anyone in Assembly Hall.
    2. Devonte Green is a poor man’s Iverson with a far better attitude.
    3. Juwan Morgan could play in any decade for any coach.
    4. I’d love to see Rick Barry tutor DD on underhanded FTs.
    5. How is Josh Newkirk an otherwise-talented senior, yet cannot shoot a left-handed lay-up?

  • IUBizmark

    Regarding the lineup and minutes, I was wondering about that too. I figured this was the tighter rotation you commonly see when in conference play. Tough to pick between Smith, McSwain and McRoberts. I love all three of those guys and hope they can all earn court time.

  • IUBizmark

    I bet Archie wants him to be an above the rim player with that additional 8 inches of vertical. My guess is he’s still a little too tired to dunk when he need to…which is tough to see. Hopefully DeRon can up his game…literally.

  • Mark Bando

    Its a tough call because as you mention, Collin gives us a huge lift off the bench. But I keep thinking about what archie said about JM and CH in the game together and how we went on those runs with them together. It would be great to start the game and the second half with those two together. And i always remember what coach knight would say about the importance of the first 5 minutes of each half.

  • Ivan Renko

    i agree with you, it’s much harder to dunk or even go up strong with two hands when you’re gassed.

    DD only played 18 min last night IIRC, but he was still visibly gassed at times. much better than last year, regardless. his play has been MUCH MUCH improved!

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  • TomJameson

    Hopefully our center isn’t closing out to the perimeter at all on a three-point shooter. That shouldn’t be a problem. I guess, if you call the close-outs “okay”, it would just depend on ones definition of “okay”. It certainly seems like a bunch of them are made, mostly because they are wide open.

    The defense is getting better, all of it, but right now there are a few problems, and the 3-pt defense is probably one of the biggest. Just my opinion, but I also respect your opinion as well.

  • sarge

    I am sure people have hated me and my posts for doing the same thing. I don’t care if you love it or hate it, I want the feedback. You have to crush some lemons to get lemonade.

  • bball at nick’s

    I know one of those two is Arch, but who is the mysterious second? LOL.

  • IdahoHoosier

    I come from a friendly place. A lot of the response isn’t hatred really, just differing opinions. First, if you can’t handle others offering alternative opinions to yours, I’d honestly consider not posting here. Second, if you phrase things as clearly opinions, rather than as fact, (“in my opinion…”, “I believe…”, etc.) you may get slightly friendlier responses. And finally, you may consider avoiding outdated, unfunny, and controversial nicknames like “Clappy 2.0”. I’ll be sure to publish all this in my “guide to public forums”!

  • dennis powell

    He guarded that kid for a very short period of time and the kid was 1-1 on a layup that Johnson got beat on. You need to stop listening to the talking heads and pay attention.

  • dennis powell

    You need to pay more attention. I plotted Newkirks performance when he was in the game and when he wasn’t and a couple of early games he was a negative 20+ points. After that I stopped keeping track. Nothing has changed.

  • dennis powell

    He guarded that kid for a very short time and gave up a drive to him for a bucket. You need to pay closer attention.

  • dennis powell

    Look at my response to ole man.

  • dennis powell

    Didn’t get to watch the game last night. I had baseball practice so didn’t know he was transferring until I just watched the game.

  • dennis powell

    Hey nick think Mike Davis Kelvin Sampson and Tom Crean and tell me how great college coaches are.

  • zoldirtybird

    I agree with you. It would be great to see a 2 guard set used more often. Unfortunately Josh continues to be a liability on defense. Robert, Al, and Devonte have been the best perimeter defenders but we are still struggling with rotations and close outs. Colin seems comfortable with the perimeter defense and certainly puts the pressure on the other team offensively. Zach understands the defense but is less of an offensive threat. I think both of them could play 3 occasionally if we need/want to go big. Juwan can play any position. Justin has the talent to be an excellent defender but you’re right — he looked lost defensively last night. Hopefully he starts getting more minutes as it would strengthen the team immensely to have a versatile athletic wing defender. Ultimately, if the perimeter defense improves, the team is ready to take the next step.

  • Tommy Morrsion

    This sounds crazy but DD should consider changing techniques. Rick Barnes son broke UFs free throw record using the underhand (granny) motion last year. Its a much more repeatable motion and way more consistent. The problem: its embarrassing so people don’t do it. Malcolm Gladwell had a great podcast on Rick Barnes training Shaq to shoot underhand but he cared about his image too much to gain an extra 6 PPG from the stripe.

  • BBB

    I believe you mean Rick Barry, but I agree. Think about it this way: If you’re 7-feet tall and have gigantic hands, shooting a regulation ball is about like the average person shooting a mini basketball. It’s harder to shoot consistently. Granny style is the way to go for these big men that struggle.

  • Tommy Morrsion

    Sorry, good catch typing from a phone doesn’t help.

    Part of the problem is that we call it a “granny” shot. What kind of serious athlete (not to mention typically the giants at the 5 position) want that image? Plus Rick Barry’s kid was a gaurd!!

  • Ole Man

    I’m not sure what you were watching, but it obviously wasn’t the Iowa vs IU game.
    The Iowa kid made one funky shot, then made nothing afterwards.
    And RJ was in the kids face most of the second half.

  • Ole Man

    Why are you on here trolling?
    Why are you suddenly dissing the performance of players?
    JN according to Coach is improving and becoming a vital cog to the team.
    I’ll listen to Coach rather than you.

  • Ole Man

    You don’t watch the game. Then you come on here and trash players. Yet, you call other people “moron” because they disagree with you and/or you disagree with them.
    Think you need to find another board.

  • Ole Man

    You didn’t even watch the game.
    I saw your comment to someone else.
    Proves my comment about you being a troll.

  • bball at nick’s

    They don’t need to be great to have much more informed opinions than yours. Also, don’t call me by my last name, lol.

  • Ole Man

    Good thoughts except #1 should say, “except Duke.” LOL!

  • IdahoHoosier

    You have a lot to say about specific players and individual performances last night for someone who didn’t watch the game…

  • cbags05

    Justin needs to practice squeezing the ball. Seems like he plays Hot Potato on most of his touches.

  • mharv2631

    I want them all to bend over and wipe their hands on their socks before they shoot. Worked for Alford.

  • coachv

    i don’t think people are as nuts about priller as they used to be. just sounded like a mild cheer. personally, i never saw the attraction. i’m sure he’s a great guy and all, but that’s been a wasted scholly for 4 years that we could have used. even walk-ons get more minutes. i bet miller would have told him good-bye like gelon if he were a junior. i will be glad to get the scholarship back. is that bad?

  • timamac

    And dribble 3 times. Saw that many times at New Castle. The whole crowd always copied him, lol!

  • RonMlarkey

    Watch the game for yourself, Archie is not going to talk bad about any player to the media so who cares what he says. One thing is for certain, Rojo and Cujo have definitely been using the same shooting coach, maybe Hartman could teach rob a thing or two otherwise he is going to continue to be useless on offense unless hes driving the ball.

  • RonMlarkey

    He has maybe 1/10th of my knowledge.

  • Corey Dunigan

    Exactly… just like Pop A Shot

  • bball at nick’s

    I didn’t mean by knowledge a bunch of stats and factoids, which is the only thing you understand.

  • bball at nick’s

    It’s not about what he says, although that counts too. It’s about the number of minutes he has him in the game. I don’t feel like arguing with trolls about this issue. I think for myself. I have followed Archie’s analysis of the game and progress of our team. I also watch players and have a very good feel for their overall game.

  • RonMlarkey

    The name of the game is to make shots.

  • Adam 01

    My favorite things about this year:

    1. Dwindling turnovers
    2. Collin Hartman
    3. The promise of AD and JS
    4. Archie’s post-game comments
    5. Game to game improvement

    Even when we lose I find things to be happy about. I’m looking forward to each game way more than the last few years.