2011 guard Kelvin Amayo claims offer from Indiana

Update: According to Hugh Kellenberger of The Herald-Times, Amayo has not been offered a scholarship by Indiana. A source close to the situation also confirmed Hugh’s report with Inside the Hall. Adam Finkelstein at ESPN.com had also reported the Amayo offer on Dec. 10.

Kelvin Amayo, a 6-4, 200-pound guard who plays at NIA Prep in Newark, N.J., is a relatively new name to surface on Indiana’s recruiting radar.

The 2011 guard, who has played at three different high schools — Hillside, St. Benedict’s and now NIA Prep — told Inside the Hall on Monday night that the Hoosiers have started to recruit him over the last two months.

“Coach (Tim) Buckley says they have a high interest in my style of play,” Amayo said, adding that IU has offered him a scholarship.

That style of play, based on Amayo’s own scouting report, is predicated upon attacking off the dribble.

“I’m a fast, up-tempo player,” he said. “I like fast breaks. I can play in a half-court set or a fast break. I can shoot, go to the rim, I can do a lot of things. I can go to the rim mostly at will.”

Amayo reeled off a list of high-major schools that are in regular contact, including Auburn, Boston College, Connecticut, Iowa State, Mississippi, Rutgers and UNLV. He’s not nationally ranked by either Rivals or Scout, but said that he’s not necessarily a late-bloomer.

“I don’t know (if I’m a late-bloomer), but definitely, I still have to show my talents because all the scouts don’t have me ranked,” Amayo said. “But after high school, the rankings are going to be out the window.”

The next step in the process for Hillside, N.J., native will be narrowing down his list of schools in February while also mixing in some visits. The Hoosiers appear to be in line for one of those trips.

“I think Indiana will be one of the schools I take a visit to,” he said.

Check out a couple of YouTube videos of Amayo after the jump.

  • Anonymous

    Why haven’t you posted his info on the 2011 recruiting site?

  • Kelin OlaHarrispo

    I want us to remember back about 6-9 months ago when we wanted a big strong guard who could get to the basket to be the third guy in the 2011 class…Jeremiah Davis. Once that shipped sailed…

    We then wanted another combo guard with nice handle who could get to the basket to be the third guy in our 2011 class BJ Young.

    So now, we have a bigger guard physically, taller than Davis and Young, and still a solid solid handle with a skill set we need and the conversation is really different. Not saying anyone is right or wrong but it is very odd and I don’t know why?

    How does Harris help us next year? How does Hollowell help us next year? Would you like to go another year missing this important piece? Yogi will NOT be physically ready for big ten basketball. Harris is ultra talented still has some flaws in his game and to be honest does not solve IU’s TWO major problems when it comes to running Crean’s offense….

    A guard that can get to the basket and break down the entire defense, to set others up for shots. (????)
    A strong defending and rebounding post, who can provide a face up and back to the basket threat. (Cody)

    How many more times do we strike out on this “Reggie Jackson” type of player? That guy destroyed IU. How many more scoring droughts do we need to go through? Who dumps the ball down to Elston or Cody even for a dunk?

  • Kelin OlaHarrispo

    Jerry I agree, I don’t know if Crean wants to keep using these high ball screens as much if he had a guy who didn’t need one, how much more would that create for others. If you remember the BC game “Reggie Jackson” who is built the same as Kelvin, didn’t need alot of high ball screens and created so much for his surrounding shooters and post players. Could not agree more….

  • JerryCT

    It seems to me all our regular players have at least one “skill imbalance” that we are constantly having to cover for, which restricts what we can do.

    Today’s example: CW handling the ball on the drive in traffic

    We have never really seen VO or WS at PG except in short glimpses but I agree their skills seem to be the most complete ( except maybe 3pt shooting ).

    The truth is we need answers in backcourt as well as frontcourt.

    You seem to have a crystal ball, i don’t. Where can I get one ?

    Get one for Coach while you can as well.

  • Anonymous

    K Mart Blue Light Special last Friday night, 4 crystal balls, buy 3 get the fourth free. What a deal! It really makes life easier. I won the Lottery on Saturday, bought the right stock on Monday, now I have fixed the Hoosiers. What should I do tomorrow?

  • Gustin

    The opportunity has been there for Hollowell for quite some time. How long should we wait on his decision? I too would like to see him become a Hoosier but, to-date, I don’t see that happening. I’d be ecstatic with Harris and Amayo…

  • Gustin

    I really hope PJ’s foot problem is only a short term problem!

  • JerryCT

    In the article that Millared posted the kid sounded like a worker, committed to skills development, with a reputation for elevating his game when challenged by higher ranked players.

    Do we have a player who “elevates” his game under competition ? ( ie recall Jordan Crawford against his brother ).

    I thought CW tried very hard to do that against TJones and VJ3 has had moments last year. I had hopes for DE this year and it appears Rivers could one day surprise us .

    But a player whose has a “reputation” of responding to a direct challenge i am not sure we have that. Also, I suspect the kid has some quiet swagger ………. currently who is our designated “swaggerer” ? Does not sound like AE or CZ will fill that role.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Yeah, he did. The layup he hit was even left handed. Jordan does have the ability to use both hands well. I don’t know. It’s hard for me to decide if I want Amayo now or just play with what we’ve got until we get Harris in 2012. I don’t want to risk losing Harris because I think he’s a top ten player, but, at the same time Harris could be a one and done or straight to the NBA if they change the rule.

    Tough decision. I’m glad I’m not CTC or anyone else who has to help make it.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Yeah, he did. The layup he hit was even left handed. Jordan does have the ability to use both hands well. I don’t know. It’s hard for me to decide if I want Amayo now or just play with what we’ve got until we get Harris in 2012. I don’t want to risk losing Harris because I think he’s a top ten player, but, at the same time Harris could be a one and done or straight to the NBA if they change the rule.

    Tough decision. I’m glad I’m not CTC or anyone else who has to help make it.

  • BFowler

    Jamarcus Ellis had swag. I understand what you are saying and we need conficent people on the floor, but at what cost? And now he claimed to have an offer, but does not really now? Attended 3 high schools? I know, I know, more questions…..

  • BFowler

    I think this brings out the question and the answer. We are obviously not satisfied with the current roster’s performance. The question is: where are the weakest links in the chain? In the Dribble-drive offense, the basic needs are a penetrating guard, good shooters, and finishing big men. Defense is defense and you need pressure, rebounding, and shot-blocking. Can this kid solve any of the issues at the level expected? Would he be a serious upgrade? All the highlights show me is that he is playing inferior competition. Not every recruit is THE recruit, not every player solves our needs, and not every kid is right for the program. We can not continue to annoint every player as the missing link from a highlight video.

  • Anonymous

    We just got beat by several one and done players. I’ll take one or two every few years. It’s not a bad thing to have talented players.

    Love to have Harris.

  • Anonymous

    I agree the need is at the 5 spot and hopefully Chandler can get his act together and we can see enough promise in him to give it a shot. McGary seems to be wanting to come out too late in 2012 when we will have others. The need is next season.

    If we can get this Amayo kid in though and we don’t want to take the risk on Chandler we need to do it.

    Point is we have a scholarship available next year and we shouldn’t sit on it just to sit on it. Never know what can happen from year to year.

  • Anonymous

    Wake up from your dream:)

  • Anonymous

    Where do KY, K, UNC, Duke get their out of state recruits?
    Often from Indiana.
    We could do just fine getting predominantly IU recruits.
    We could save the out of staters for the really elite players which is what the other schools you mentioned do on a consistent basis.

  • JerryCT

    Hulls had one destroyed as well. Not a very reliable shot type

  • Anonymous

    The next year comment is right on point. Don’t save scholarships when you are a team that is building for success. We need to fill this spot next year with someone. A 5 or a 1 or maybe a strong ball handling 2 preferably.

    The only thing that you mention that I would tend to disagree with concerning the comparison of BJYoung/JD and this new guy Amayo is that they were both highly ranked players where Amayo is not for some reason. Maybe he has slipped past the rating people, hopefully he has and we are looking at a diamond in the rough. If so get him. If he could turn out anything like that Reggie Jackson kid from BC by all means snatch him up immediately.

  • JerryCT

    I believe the article posted earlier by Millared in another thread said he originally played soccer and later took up basketball . His attitude seems to come out in the article ………….which I value more than film.

    Lots of questions you have but Outofloop can get you his crystal ball.

  • JerryCT

    http://www.slamonline.com/onli…/

    He first started playing in 6th grade after playing travel soccer. Transferred from Hillside to play better competition in basketball. Transferred to prep school to get ready for college.

  • http://www.insidethehall.com/ Alex Bozich

    Just so everyone is clear here — Amayo does not have an offer from IU.

  • http://weeklycritiquely.blogspot.com/ IUfanPurduePhD

    Good point with the rankings millzy. I think if this kid was a four-star in the top 50, the discussion about his recruitment would be far less divided.

  • Anonymous

    Kelvin Wilson might want this guy as well that photo taking of him, in the slam magazine, was from his sophomore season…I read that article and watched every video I could find…

    former soccer player =Wesley Matthews
    Favorite NBA player = D. Wade
    Both = Tom Crean guards in the NBA

    One knock I read about this kid is his jumper and that’s the main reason for his ranking or lack there of….but when you are that size and can get to the rim at will then a jumper is something that you dnt need….he understand he need it now and I’m pretty convinced Cook Hall will help

    I think jordy and yogi will thrive off the ball as they will get open looks….I also believe CTC would love to play two pg at the same time

    I’m not saying we get this guy but if we do he will make this team better the second in steps foot in Bloomington

  • Anonymous

    I’m from CT, went to IU, have been to Newark, and have been Storrs. UCONN maybe in the sticks but its east coast, a national program, and is way more in line culturally and socially.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not just location or conference its more culturally and socially. The Midwest is a lot different than you may think. In my opinion chances are slim and not to get expectations up.

  • Anonymous

    Those schools I listed offer PT a lot sooner. Yes, they are not known as “elite” programs (excl UCONN) but they are home (to him). NYC is right next door, he can meet anyone he wants.

    I am all for IU getting top talent and bettering the program but some people go overboard with expectations, IU’s draw in other parts of the country, and the need to get whatever kid gets a story on ITH. If it happens, it happens…

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    You know on that shot you’re talking about I yelled at him. The previous shot he shielded Harrelson with his right hand and shot it with his left and the one you’re talking about he went with his inside hand (right) on the left side for some reason and didn’t shield the defender. You would think that since it was successful the first time he would go back to it. Maybe it was just because he got his steps wrong or something.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Also, I would say a layup is a pretty reliable shot type. You just have to know what hand to use to get it off and when to dump the ball off. Being a well-coached, fundamentally sound player, he should know that it’s almost always the right play to go with the hand that matches the side of the basket you are on and use the other hand to shield a defender (not push off).

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    I know millzy. I agree with you. I wouldn’t mind a few one-and-done players sprinkled in as long as we have good 4 year talent also. The Duke’s and MSU’s of the world have had their share of 1 and 2 year players.

  • Anonymous

    My concern is whether or not he’d even see significant playing time next year. He will still be a freshman and Crean seems to have a tough time sitting certain players that’s been on the team longer. I wonder if his impact when we need him most (next year) is worth a spot that we need now.

  • Anonymous

    Our players do have at least one “skill imbalance”, but what about Amayo? What are his weaknesses? Is he going to be able to come in as a freshman next year and fill the role immediately? Will Crean keep VJIII, Hulls, VO, and Sheehy out of the game long enough for Amayo to be in there significantly to make that impact we need right away? I just don’t see it, but I will listen to the arguments to convince me otherwise.

  • Anonymous

    One of the reason CTC might have a tough time sitting certain players is becuase he fully doesn’t trust everyone on the team….this is the first year CTC have seen real competition but thats not to say the competition is great.

    Like everybody else I dont know much about this kid so ill withstand from judging but I do know that a 6’4 200 pound pg will help the competition get better and force everyone on the team to work harder and get better or sit the bench…I think that can go for the classes of 2011-2014 as well…this should make Zeller,Yogi, Buss, AE ect. want to get better because CTC is trying to set the bar high

  • BFowler

    Probably so, but the reality is he is not ranked and he is not touted. That makes all the difference in the world. I understand the “diamond in the rough” argument, but am I wrong in thinking we are beyond that?

  • Anonymous

    Good argument and scope of reasoning – I guess in hindsight a lot of us are just getting a little impatient. This team still has immediate needs, but there are not a lot of players out there that is going to fill that immediate need the second they step on the floor next year. However over a little more time, a piece like this player could pay off big down the road (mid to late season next year? – hopefully -> and then into the next).

    But at the same time, maybe an immediate player like this does exist. Not overly confident by this statement due to past experience, but maybe IU should look for that PG that does have college experience like a transfer that could come in and possibly start from day one.

  • http://weeklycritiquely.blogspot.com/ IUfanPurduePhD

    I wish I still had the link, but I think somebody did a quick analysis of what percentage of five-star recruits make it to the NBA and the disparity is large. I realize there’s a lot of variables in there, but you’d figure that since only 25 kids are ranked as five-star players (and the NBA drafts more than that number in each of its rounds), then what’s up with that? I think Florida had the #1 class in 2008 — or maybe ’07 — and they missed the tourney last year (again, variables there, but Billy Donovan can clearly coach/win championships).

    I’m not saying Amayo should be ranked as a five-star, but look at Oladipo and Sheehey — both of those kids were unranked by Scout and barely made Rivals’ top 150, but they are top 100 material. I guess what I’m really getting at is that I trust Crean’s evaluation of talent. He’s only had a couple of years here and much of that was filled with desperation — so he hasn’t established an amazing track record here yet — but I’m a believer. That’s probably a heaping helping of blind faith, but I’m on board with Crean’s judgment.

  • http://weeklycritiquely.blogspot.com/ IUfanPurduePhD

    And don’t forget about Anthony Davis’ meteoric rise. I think he was outside of the top 100 last winter and he landed in the top 10 after this past summer.

  • Anonymous

    I personally wasn’t real impressed with the video either, but that too has its share of variables. I have no reason to not trust Crean so I will stick by his decision. But the kid doesn’t officially have an offer yet either so….

  • jgongora86

    Well I trust Creans evaluation of guards. He lives and breaths guards. I have to admit I got real hyped about the kid because of this very reason, but if he doesn’t have an offer than I don’t put too much faith into videos. Sorry for the premature excitement.

  • Anonymous

    I haven’t looked at the rosters of the other teams, but I’d venture to say anyone who is 6’4″ with the skills to play the point has a pretty good chance at seeing the floor at IU, given the current state of the position.

  • Anonymous

    If he’s running the point I don’t see where that would interfere with Sheehey or Oladipo’s PT. It’s pretty obvious that Verdell is a much better player if he’s not running the point. That leaves Hulls, and even he has logged significant time at off-guard.

  • jgongora86

    Yeah discoe I agree to the point that Indiana itself is a bit of a culture shock, but in reality Indiana University has tons of new yorkers already attending the university. no matter where he goes, he probably is going to be too busy with athletic schedule, going to classes, and hanging out with his teammates, that it won’t really make that much of a difference. But we can agree to disagree. Go hoosiers.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Well, this is odd. I believe the other night during the game I was made aware of the “offer” to Amayo while cruising around on one of those premium IU blogs. I was just reading. I don’t pay to talk about IU basketball when the best talk seems to be here anyway. So, I hopped on and posted that IU had offered Amayo and put up a video link.

    Sorry to get all this crap started because apparently that was bad information from that premium site and it started a snowball that even rolled all the way to Alex talking with Amayo. You would think he would know for sure whether or not he had an offer before confirming to Alex. That’s a bit worrying.

    Sorry everyone.

  • Diesel

    Kelin, I know you are making a point, but I saw Yogi last Saturday night and he answered any questions I had about being B10 ready. I sent in a report on my impressions of Yogi and Trevon plus some game highlights but I’m not sure it was “post-worthy”.

    Would you guess he took the jump ball to open the game?

  • Diesel

    Yogi will not be doing anything “off the ball”, he will be the cog that makes this machine run!

  • Anonymous

    I’m with you there, that is in it being a bit worrisome that he says he has an offer from IU but apparently does not. I also think maybe the fact that CZ sees himself as a 4 and not a 5 is being somewhat overlooked in all of this. I understand and agree for the need to have better options at the PG spot. I would like to know what Amayo’s fg % is ( 3 pt & 2 ). If the guy defending him doesn’t have to respect his outside shot then his effectiveness as a penetrator at the college level is greatly diminished. If this is the case, and I will put my trust in CTC to make that decision, is it us making the best out of the remaining scholarship if we have to wait a year for him to possess a outside shot his soph year that has to be respected when our inside game is maybe more of glaring need than the PG position ? I know everyone, myself included, is waiting breathlessly for CZ to get to IU but even he alone will not fix our inside problems. Even though we could use a serious upgrade at the PG, I would say judging from actual game minutes, our bigs are our biggest need. We AND CZ will benefit greatly next year with having a true 5 that can contribute. Now having said all of that if CTC does not feel like there is a big out there that is worth the risk than by all means sign this kid up.

  • Anonymous

    playing time is playing time

  • http://twitter.com/BriStew20 Brian Stewart

    The difference between the other schools on Kelvin’s list & Indiana is at Indiana he’ll be treated like a God!

    Love to see you in candy stripes Kelvin!

  • Kelin CreDavis

    I would like for IU to offer Kelvin Amayo

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