There have been a long line of wackos in Waco. Did Morefield create this present culture at Baylor, did he simply join in practicing it or has he been instructed in how to violate recruiting rules after he arrived? Threatening a players deportation to his coach must be a new out-of-the-box method to build rapport for future recruiting.Thugs like this belong in the NBA with Kelvin Sanctions. So the quick rise by Baylor to national attention does have other coaches accurately complaining about the Bears recruiting practices. I have to believe this being revealed will bring a barrage of additional damning information. As for Scott Drew’s future, like Joe Louis said about opponent Billy Conn, “He can run but he can’t hide”.

Probably beat the crap out of him! I don’t think CTC would stand for something like this at all!

Here is why I don’t think there is an immigration issue…..based on what he said…”if he commits to another school…meaning.. if he comes to Baylor everything is cool, if we are recruiting him everything is cool….but if he commits elsewhere, then he must be illegal.

With these kids coming through the A Hope program, Indiana Elite, and attending school this long I don’t think Hanner is in any deportation trouble at all, it is a coach who is dirty and wants what he wants, at the expense of a kid.

You mean HH*…a lot of people have midnight madness but we have HOOSIER HYSTERIA!!!

If Indiana Fans really want to help- google Hanner Perea and/or Baylor basketball recruiting and please talk up our university. We have a great tradition outside of the KS years, we recruit good smart kids and Blgtn is a super-basketball town.

Why shouldn’t we be posting this all over the place??? ESPN, SI and every other basketball site?

The same guy Homer had working for him at VU. What a joke!

I think that we’re probably taking that text out of context and leaping to a conclusion that’s probably not warranted. What’s more likely:

(1) that Baylor threatened to have Perea deported if he didn’t sign with Baylor, or
(2) that Baylor believes the only place Perea will feel at home is Baylor, and that if he goes to another school, he may feel so homesick that he will decide to go back home to Colombia, or that he will face eligibility concerns that only Baylor can navigate, whereas he may not qualify for other schools, and thus wind up going back to Colombia?

Given that blackmailing a kid with deportation is unlikely to be an effective recruiting tactic, and very likely to result in severe sanctions if discovered, I think the text is more likely an appeal to a coach’s thoughts about what is ultimately best for his player–moving forward with his basketball career at Baylor, or going somewhere else and facing time away from the game due to homesickness or ineligibility.

That said, recruiting violations are not a good omen for Baylor’s recruiting, especially when tied to Perea in particular, and so this has to be viewed as inadvertently good news for IU’s recruitment of Perea.

The only reason to bully a kid into going to your school would be because you thought for sure if you didn’t that he was definitely going elsewhere.

Since he lists IU & Baylor as his Big 2 Schools you would have to figure he is a serious IU lean and coach Morefield was going for broke.

So the underlying premise for doing this was good news for us, and its now being delivered in an ugly wrapper.

Going for broke…it sure is now.

frist that’s pretty sad and I would never want to win a recruiting battle at the expense of another school being a complete jerk..that being said CTC and the rest of Hoosiers Nation should show we care more about HP then what he can provide on the court..that’s the honest and respectable way to win a battle. .also I wonder if CTC knew this was going on I mean texting mark adams this mess who have ties to our program is also dumb…as much as I hate snitching I applaud whoever told not for IU sake but for Hanners…

I somewhat agree with you. This is why I hesitated to post this in the first place, because people would think I’m some sort of Drew homer (no pun intended, saying his dad’s name is Homer), but I’m not. Like jayrig said, if this turns out to be all on Drew, I will be the first to line up and throw shots at him. I do agree that it all starts at the top, no doubt about it. But no one would of thought asst. Coach Roshown Mcleod would do anything shady at indiana, until he was fired and tried recruiting D’vauntes Smith-Rivera to his high school. I know that doesn’t equate to NCAA violations, but I’m just saying you never really know a person and when your hiring you kind of have to go on a gut feeling.

According to Dakich, this guy is a little dirtbag asst. that runs around the country aggressively. I’m sure Hanner could handle this guy on his own.

Yes, if true, this is a sad commentary on the ethics of some in the Baylor program. But sometimes when misfortune occurs to a person the end result becomes a better opportunity and a brighter future for that person. I believe that is the case here. This is a good thing for Hanner in the long run.

As you suggest, I think Option 2 is very possible. The text message may have been taken completely out of context. The more I think about it, the less likely it seems that an assistant coach, however shady, would try to blackmail a player’s coaches in this way.

You’re also right in pointing out that regardless of the content of the text, sending the text at all in those circumstances is a recruiting violation and does not bode well for Baylor’s continued recruitment of Perea.

Good post.

RobD made a point earlier that got me to think a little more…let’s first step back and look at it objectively. The thing i noticed after re-reading the txt msg is that Morefield doesn’t use the word “deport” or any derivative of it. It may be implied, but there’s more to this story…

What the ???? — between Baylor, Tenessee and Kentucky, the NCAA could singlehandedly kick-start a jobs program.

Pretty much my point yes.

The difference being that IU is considered a top-tier (historically) program and Baylor is a run-of-the-mill program. We, theoretically, should be able to build faster on an equal playing field. Baylor seems to be building by cutting corners, so their building may go up faster, but the foundation will not be solid…and you know what that will mean. Keep building it right, CTC!

The difference being that IU is considered a top-tier (historically) program and Baylor is a run-of-the-mill program. We, theoretically, should be able to build faster on an equal playing field. Baylor seems to be building by cutting corners, so their building may go up faster, but the foundation will not be solid…and you know what that will mean. Keep building it right, CTC!

Totally a scare tactic. Are his parents in the country? Not sure what that status is but it might have given the coach a little more confidence to toss something like that around.

Maybe he felt like he was losing out on Hanner’s recruitment and lost it. Doens’t matter. He is toast toast toast. Many organizations will be hammering the Baylor program to make this right.

I expect a full written apology within 2 weeks after the University realizes this is a no win situation.

He has gotta be IU bound!

I agree that the text is being taken out of context, but why will he “be in Colombia for the spring and summer and next year” for those reasons? He is a 2012 grad.

i thought of that also, but he says for the spring and summer. he won’t play in college for another 2 years. i think he was trying to act like he had some dirt on him and scare him.

Like another poster, I was initially elated to think we certainly have the inside track to sign a player of Hanner’s passion and athleticism. I am also taking time to feel badly for the young man if he was really treated like this. It’s unconscionable

I also feel bad for all those around the Baylor program. This seems all too familiar, but in different context – a once proud program that spent years in building a reputation just to watch it fall apart due to one or two individuals in a very short time. It would be in Baylor’s best interest to right the ship before it sinks.

I agree with you. I used Baylor as the most similar example for totally rebuilding a major college basketball program to the Indiana case when Tom Crean arrived. I still stand by everything that I said, which was that you look at a 6-7 year time frame for full completion (top 20 every year), with significant mileposts after 4-5 years (make the NCAA Tournament or perform well in the NIT). What is “uninformed” is to distort the record by suggesting that anyone was extolling the private and concealed actions of the Baylor coaching staff. We were simply remarking on the public facts of years and wins from a baseline of zero..

Actually Baylor’s web-site boasts that “Baylor University in Waco, TX, is a private Baptist University…” It is sort of hard for SMU to run from it’s affiliation with the Methodist Church since the name is Southern Methodist University, but they do! Their web-site never spells out the university’s actual name, but hides under “SMU”. Apparently Baptists and Methodists are immune to moral and ethical criticism, at least in college athletics. I will have to speak to my Methodist Minister about this.