Five takeaways from Indiana’s exhibition win over UIndy

  • 11/06/2017 9:13 am in

In the final tune-up before Friday’s regular season opener, Indiana cruised past Division II UIndy on Sunday afternoon at Simon Skjodt Assembly Hall.

Here’s a look at five takeaways from the 74-53 win over the Greyhounds:

· The return of Collin Hartman: The last time Collin Hartman put on a uniform for game action prior to Sunday was over 19 months ago when the Hoosiers lost to North Carolina in the 2016 NCAA tournament.

Hartman, who missed the Hoosier Hysteria scrimmage and first exhibition with an ankle injury, didn’t waste any time after checking in at the 13:44 mark of the first half. Hartman hit a 3-pointer less than two minutes after checking in and finished with nine points in 16 minutes.

It was an important step for Hartman, who is expected to play a major role as a leader on Archie Miller’s first Indiana team.

“It felt good,” Hartman said postgame. “It’s been over a year since I’ve been able to put this jersey on and play against somebody else with these guys. And it really felt good to get the first one under our belt and get the ball rolling.”

· Eight turnovers and a turnover percentage below 13: When Miller took the reins in Bloomington in late March, one of the biggest on court challenges he faced was figuring out how to get his players to take care of the ball.

Through two exhibition games, Indiana is headed in the right direction. After turning it over 10 times for a turnover percentage of 13.8 in the first exhibition, the Hoosiers had just eight turnovers against UIndy for a turnover percentage of 12.8.

In his postgame comments, Miller said the goal is to stay under 10 turnovers, but added that shot selection is just as important.

“I think the one thing is the turnover number, eight, is always — anything under 10 is always what we’re gunning for,” Miller explained. “But if you add in six to eight bad shots in later-down-the-line games against good competition it’s going to turn into offense on the other side of the ball. So we have to be a little bit more mindful in shot selection.”

· Davis performs in extended minutes: De’Ron Davis wasn’t accustomed to playing extended minutes as a freshman, but Indiana needs him to emerge as a 25-30 minute a game player as a sophomore.

Davis logged just 19 minutes in the first exhibition, but played 24 minutes in the win over UIndy. And for the most part, he was effective.

The Colorado native finished with 11 points, seven rebounds, five blocks and two fouls. The 24 minutes were the most he’s played in an Indiana uniform.

“De’Ron will be a guy we gotta keep out on the floor,” Miller said. “If he’s able to play 24, 25 minutes a night, it’s probably a good thing for him right now early. If he ever gets to be a guy that can play 30 then I think he’s worked himself into game shape. De’Ron has to play in games to get in game shape, and thankfully, like I told those guys, we’ve got a ton of them coming.”

· Johnson breaks out offensively: After scoring just six points on 3-of-13 shooting in last weekend’s win over Marian, senior Robert Johnson was better offensively on Sunday afternoon.

Although he settled for a couple of 3s in early shot clock situations and hit just 2-of-7 from distance, Johnson put together an otherwise strong offensive performance.

He finished with a team-high 18 points and hit 5-of-8 on 2s. The Richmond (Va.) native also had just one turnover in 26 minutes.

As we wrote in his player profile last week, Johnson needs to figure out ways to get to the foul line more frequently. In 52 exhibition minutes, he attempted just three free throws.

· Rotation still a work in progress: With as many as 10 or 11 players who saw significant minutes through the two exhibition games, Indiana’s rotation is still a work in progress as Friday’s regular season opener looms.

The return of Al Durham and Collin Hartman saw Justin Smith, Zach McRoberts and Clifton Moore play less in the second exhibition. Miller said that the coaching staff will look at things this week to get a better idea on the direction forward for distributing minutes.

“I would love to get a little bigger if I could, and I also think it would help us rebounding-wise if we could get a little bigger on the perimeter when Justin is ready or even Zach for a little bit,” he said. “But we’re going to have to play it by ear here. I think as the game gets moving on, I’m more comfortable right now knowing who I want to put in and keep in and who I need to get out when I need to get out.”

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  • PBzeer

    For me, the main takeaway is that problems are being identified and rectified. And there just seems to be a sense of accountability that we haven’t seen before.

  • HuntinHoosier86

    I completely agree. It was really nice to hear in the post game presser how tuned in that Archie is to not only our turnovers, but also realizes we need to do better on offense. Nothing’s getting by him and I can’t wait to see us come January!

  • sd chuck

    Rotation looks like the basic 8, can all contribute. The next 4 would be the 3 frosh and Mcroberts, It will be interesting to see who can earn the minutes.

  • Mark Bando

    Great, great point

  • Mark Bando

    My number one takeaway will continue to be the improved defensive play. My favorite stat is 5 blocked shots by DD. I love Archies comments on shot selection.

  • Donnie Vick

    At least since the General was roaming the sidelines.

  • AndyCapp

    One of the biggest takeaway’s I took away from AM’s presser was, and I am paraphrasing here, that the plurality of these players were taught to play offense fast without any real regard for shot selection and that it will take awhile to un-learn some of these bad habits.

  • Ms hoosier

    That’s what I got from Archie’s presser. You said it well!!

  • Outoftheloop

    That sounds good. 11 scholarship players plus McRoberts and Priller in a pinch. Archie will peice it together. I am content with his evaluations.

  • Yep. I was going to write close to the same thing in response to the comment above but then noticed yours. It’s comforting to know that the lineup at any given time is based entirely on who’s following the game plan and executing. As far as adjustments go, there was a first half timeout in Saturday’s game after some of those quick threes Archie’s mentioned. Following the timeout, I don’t believe there was another quick three (at least, none that were contested). That was the kind of in-game adjustment I was hoping we’d see from Archie.

  • IdahoHoosier

    Coach Wooden said to play fast, but not in a hurry. I think players confuse fast with hurried/rushed and try to do too much. You really have to build confidence in doing things correctly, and slowly, before picking up the pace or you end up with wild passes and forcing shots. I think this can all be fixed in practice and by benching and teaching players in-game.

  • John D Murphy

    I think are right. I think JS and AD will get more minutes as the year goes on and with any injuries. Also think it is possible and maybe likely that someone in the “basic 8” can’t adapt and loses their place to JS or AD.

  • John D Murphy

    Spot on. How quickly the players can adapt so the coaching staff can install the next wave in the learning process might be the difference between an improved team and a good team.

  • HoosierEconomist

    But how many deflections did we commit?

  • SamWow123

    are they gonna replay this on BTN?

  • John D Murphy

    Yes. I scheduled my DVr but can’t find it on my phone. I think was today so you might have missed it. Search “student u” for these btn plus games.

  • Kwang

    8:30 pm on BTN tonight. (ET)

  • SamWow123

    good thing i have student u recorded 🙂

  • kaponya44

    The StudentU slot for 8:30 (at least on Xfinity) is listed as Minnesota vs Concordia.I guess we’ll find out in a little over an hour.

  • Kwang

    I’m in the Louisville market, so some areas may be different.

  • mharv2631

    They have Minnesota playing. What’s up?

  • Banner6

    Looks like you’ll be DVRing the Minnesota game. BTN needs a new programming manager!

  • MrNobody

    As has been said before I think BTN knows IU fans care more about these games and we’ll be penalized the most for not paying for subscription. BTN sucks

  • John D Murphy

    They switched. Direct TV still has the IU game showing but isn’t what is playing.

  • John D Murphy

    They are showing the Rutgers / St. John’s game TWICE. I am a little miffed.

  • John D Murphy

    I complained on the BTN website. Perhaps if many us did, they might switch it out for a campus eats.

  • Hoosierkamp

    ridiculous! I was so bummed when i tried to watch it.

    Boo BTN!!!

  • TomJameson

    Remember, that team you’re talking about with no regard for shot selection and all those bad habits, was still a perennial top-30 offense … even with all those turnovers and hurry-up thinking.

    That said, I like the offense Archie is bringing around. Still fast but not in a hurry, and limiting the turnovers (drastically). I think that with the caliber of players Archie can get now, he’ll get to the point of being a top ranked offensive team as well. But, without the turnovers.

    It’s like PBzeer said, “problems are being identified and rectified”, and I like THAT a ton. I also like what Archie said about keeping turnovers below 10 a game, but mostly liked when he said that (paraphrasing) poor shot selection is like a turnover.

    So far, I really, really, really like what I see in Archie’s IU team’s progression. If they do like I expect, and just get better throughout the season, they are going to be very tough to beat in postseason play (whatever that may be).

  • AndyCapp

    Is your top 30 O rankings adjusted for TO’s? I think I made my point that they were rarely playing in control but sure, they could put points on the board. AM is so fundamentally sound that I see us putting points on the board AND taking care of the possessions.

  • TomJameson

    Yes, the (kenpom) rankings are taking into account turnovers. Can’t imagine how good their offense would have been if they could have controlled them. But that’s why they needed so many possessions (playing fast), because they turned it over so much.

    I absolutely love it that Archie is getting the team back to fundamentals and good defense. I think Archie will be as great in his offense as he is in his defense, they’ll just have to work steadily up to that point. Much rather get a little more in control, take care of the ball, and play some defense as well.

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  • Paul Talbott

    Yeah. Me too. Did not care about Minnesota. Apparently the game was delayed 45 minutes for a tornado warning. I wonder if that had something to do with it.

  • AndyCapp

    No kidding! If we had taken care of the ball we prolly would have had a top 10 O ranking. Of course if we had we might be seeing another year of CTC and I REALLY like where we are headed now so I don’t mind the tradeoff 😉