2013-2014 Player Profile: Collin Hartman

  • 09/27/2013 7:55 am in


With the start of college basketball season on the horizon, we’ll be taking a long look at the conference at large as well as Indiana’s roster over the next month. Today, we start our look at Indiana’s roster with Collin Hartman.

Collin Hartman has been waiting for this season for the past three years.

Having committed to Indiana as only a sophomore at Cathedral High School on Nov. 21, 2010, Hartman has finally made it to Bloomington as a member of the IU men’s basketball team. And heading into this season, Hartman might be able to immediately fill a void on the Hoosiers’ roster as a true freshman.

A 6-foot-6 wing known for his shooting capability, Hartman could immediately provide scoring help from the perimeter after IU lost 77 percent of its 3-point production from last season. After all, IU’s only returning players who made a 3-point shot last year are Yogi Ferrell, Will Sheehey, Jeremy Hollowell and Austin Etherington.

“He brings something that we are really going to need based on the fact of who we’re losing in this class of seniors, and that is outside shooting ability, and the first thing that grabs you about Collin is his ability to make outside shots,” Indiana coach Tom Crean said in December 2012. “The more you watch him, and we were able to see this from his ninth grade season on, is that he has a tremendous court sense.”

Beyond his jump shot, though, Hartman still has room to develop the rest of his game. Though he has a high basketball IQ and is an underrated passer, Hartman can find himself shooting jump shots when alternative ways of scoring might be the smarter option.

That said, he will have the time to develop that part of the game while he is in Bloomington, and he’s made it one of his priorities since arriving on campus this past spring.

“I just have to make a conscious effort to focus on slowing down and focus on not trying to catch a ball and go 100 miles per hour, but just catch a ball look and just kind of look and see the progression like the older guys and try to let the game come to you instead of forcing your game,” Hartman said at Indiana’s media day on Thursday.

Since arriving on campus, Hartman already has gained 15 pounds under the watch of strength and conditioning coach Je’Ney Jackson. Heading into this season, that could play a pivotal role in his adjustment to the college level of play and the possibility of earning a spot in IU’s rotation.

“I’m in the best shape of my life condition-wise, and I’ve put in a lot of work. That’s an everyday thing,” Hartman said. “You’ve got to come in and work hard every single day and it’s not just take a day off here and there. I’ve been lifting a lot of weights and I’m going up in weight.”

Bottom line: Though Hartman comes into IU as its lowest-rated recruit in the 2013 class according to the 247 Composite, Hartman immediately brings to the table something IU might lack. His perimeter shooting presence is what IU needs, and Hartman could find playing time in that role this season. Should he show that consistency and improved court presence during practice and the first two exhibition games, Hartman could find his way into the rotation and get solid playing time in 2013-2014.

Quotable: “The games are a lot faster, guys are a lot stronger and days are a lot longer. 90 percent of the game is mental. Some places you can come in and not really be focused and still get by, but here it’s going to test you mentally and physically every day. You just have to come in mentally focused and ready to go.” — Hartman at Indiana’s media day

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  • Jordan

    In a couple years I feel like he’ll be a really good player, but for now..? I’m not so sure

  • sarge

    this guy is a big time shooter and against the right defense he could put up big numbers for us… this year.

  • papawg

    I agree. I think he is really underrated and will surprise a lot of people in his four years here.

  • Sherronhasaheadache

    Collin is a sleeper on this years team, we could use his shooting, if he can defend he’ll play

  • Termbuyer

    Kyle Hornsby part II

  • mk

    How my guys can we force into the rotation though? People already complain about Crean’s subbing patterns yet we want him to play the following guys:

    Yogi,Will,Noah,Luke,Hanner,Collin,Austin,Jeremy,Stan,Devin,Peter…people even call for Johnny Marlin

    I agree that Hartman has skill but somebody is going to have to wait their turn…

  • calbert40

    Everyone on this roster can play, but not all of them can/will contribute this season. If Collin can knock down outside jumpers with consistency and play decent D, he will get his opportunity, but I feel as though he will have to surpass a few guys on the depth chart ahead of him.

    Of course, injuries and ineffective play happen, and if either of those give Collin an opportunity, I believe he will be effective, but outside of those situations, I feel he will struggle to get significant PT.

  • mk

    and i even forgot Evan Gordon…

  • PV Mike

    Has the look and feel of a Bobby Knight recruit from the 80’s or 90’s. I can hear BK screaming at him for missing a defensive assignment as I write this. I do see CTC playing him when the offense bogs down or we are playing against a zone defense.

  • skotchie

    Given the fact this is a large incoming class and add to that Gordon I wouldn’t be surprised if someone red-shirts this season. Not saying it’s going to be Collin but I’d bet it’ll be at least one freshmen to do so.

  • CreamandCrimson

    I saw Collin play for Cathedral 5 or 6 times over a period 3 years (almost always in the sectional) and I feel like I have a decent eye for whether or not a guy can translate to college. I’m not an expert but I’m smart enough to say that I have no idea how Collin is going to do at IU. He’s more athletic than you initially want to give him credit for. His shot looks technically sound and he’s big enough to get it off without any problems from defenders. He is a surprisingly good rebounder and was a pretty strong interior defender for Cathedral. I question whether or not he has the quickness to defend on the perimeter. The quickness question also applies to his ability to do anything offensively outside of catch and shoot.

    I never questioned how hard he was playing when I watched him and I imagine that has continued at IU. I could certainly see scenarios where he turns into a valuable contributor as a solid glue guy who can nail a couple of threes each game and chip in with some rebounds and as an optimist, that’s what I’ll predict will happen. Best of luck this season and beyond Collin!

  • Sherronhasaheadache

    i agree with that, lots of options

  • bloyd88

    Never been on here to bash or anything like that, but I saw Collin play a couple times in high school and I am really concerned with his athletic ability and him being a streaky shooter. He really struggled shooting the ball both times I saw him play (semi-state against Jeffersonville, and sectional versus Lawrence North). He never played for long amounts of time, maybe that had to do with coaching. I really hope he put in a big summer because we will need him this year no doubt. Go Hoosiers!

  • HannerTime Hoosier

    Hartman is going to be a Randy Whitman type player imho. Yogi is ranked #3 PG in The Sporting News. Mitch McGary is the #1 PF, and as they stated . . . maybe the most complete player in college hoops. Oh, if only CTC gave him an offer . . . sigh. I think this year’s team is going to be fun to cheer for, drink a few brews to, and critique as they evolve.

  • HoosierDawg

    Likewise, I watched several of his games on TV over the past 3 years. I wish him the absolute best and hope he turns out to be a good player but just never saw it at Cathedral. Seems like all he did was float around the perimeter and hack up off-balance 3’s, and I never saw him light it up. He is a big kid with some good skills but I hated the way he was utilized there. Prove me wrong, CH!!

  • HumbleHoosier

    Remember last year when the team’s first practice was televised? I was super excited about the attention that the team was getting, but this year feels different. I like the low profile that this team is coming into the season with. Indiana Hoosiers 2013-14: The Great Unknown

  • Kevin Tolliver

    Well he is a freshman. RMK never liked to depend on freshman so we shouldn’t as fans either. No need to downgrade anyone who hasn’t even stepped on the court yet.

  • Kevin Tolliver

    There will be people that will have to wait their turn, but if tyour on the court and u don’t produce or play hard every play then it is good to know there is talent on the bench ready to come in.

  • Snookafly

    Randy Wittman was Big Ten POY, an All-American, and a first round draft pick so those are some big shoes to fill. I hope you’re right though.

  • mjrhoosier

    I’ve cn him play a lot and with his hustle and bb iq I think he can help from day 1!

  • tj21

    He appears to be the type of guy we all hate every time we play Wisconsin. A shooter that maybe lacks some athletic skills, high BB IQ and lots of effort. In my opinion, if he pays a role that expands beyond the short blows for the rotation players, we are in for a long year.

  • hoosier1158

    Hard imagine him being a Randy Whitman. I am thinking more like Floyd Central’s Pat Graham? He could shoot and was a pretty good player.

  • E Foy McNaughton

    I’m not 100% sure, but I think Kyle redshirted as a freshman … So that may not be a bad thing for Collin …. I do think he could be a surprise a couple years down the road. He won’t crack the rotation this year tho…

  • E Foy McNaughton

    I agree – pat graham type – if ends up like whitman, that would be a victor type surprise

  • SCHoosier

    Obviously wish the kid well and IU certainly can use some help from 3pt. I’d say the young man has a lot to prove and I hope Collin takes it as a personal challenge to be as good as he can be. Can’t ask anything more.

  • You don’t know that.. You’re just throwing sh^^ up against the wall to see if it’ll stick. Like the post above says, No need to downgrade anyone who hasn’t even stepped on the court yet.”

  • He is bigger than Randy isn’t he? Wasn’t Randy about 6′ 4″ or was he 6′ 5″.. I’m pretty sure Collin is bigger, but gosh, it’d be great if he turned out that well. He just might. He appears to have the heart for it. We’ll just have to see how he produces. I hope he does for sure.

  • marcusgresham

    Pat Graham may have been Randy Wittman if he wouldn’t have developed the foot problems. Dude could do everything in high school but injuries robbed him.

  • Kenneth234

    I actually agree with you. Collin may be a very good option for a red shirt season. Especially when we think about the ramifications of having a 6 player freshman class. If we think that Vonleh may leave as early as next season, and Williams may have the talent to leave as early as 2 seasons away, we would begin balancing the recruiting classes out a lot better. Instead of having tremendous pressure to bring in starters as freshman, we can look for players that are willing to develop and be four year guys, while still taking some shots at the top players here and there.

  • Kenneth234

    We’d be extremely lucky if he turned out to be a Brian Cardinal type player.

  • Hoosierfansince1970

    Hate to be critical of a teenager…..but Hartman is NOT good. Classic case of offering too young….people on this site are insane.

  • Aaron Anderson

    Maybe you should let the kid participate in his first college practice before making a post like that.

  • Bleeding Crimson

    Someone made the comment about redshirting Hartman? How many Freshman has CTC redshirted during his time at IU outside of injuries?

  • BC

    I look forward to watching Hartman for a long time. Really glad he is a part of the program.

  • hoosier1158

    I always thought of Pat as more of a finesse type player and Randy more physical inside. But your comments jogged my memory and didn’t he play for like a year and a half with some type of foot injuries? Still a very good player. He is a southern Indiana kid, watched him play many times in HS.

  • hoosier1158

    I think he would have a chance to play but IU is loaded up at the three position. I think between Will, Troy and AE they will take up most of the playing time at that spot. Be nice if he can play at the 2 spot and float around for some three’s.

  • BC

    Everybody is entitled to their opinions. But I wouldn’t write him off before he even starts his career. Players learn and develop, no reason he can’t be a contributed to this program. Not every player is going to be the do it all 5 star recruit you need role players as well.

  • hoosier1158

    I would really like to see IU start pressing some and use all of these good players. play 8 to 9 kids, press, where down those big physical teams like WI and MSU. MSU maybe a little quicker this year, but player’s like Nix would have had trouble with a press.

  • BC

    Well he hasn’t really had the luxury to do so be a lack of depth. Did he do it at Marquette?

  • hoosier1158

    I was looking at his picture, maybe like Luke Recker but stay 4 years?? : )

  • marcusgresham

    I remember seeing him play against Crawford County and he threw down a nasty reverse dunk. I also remember his senior year against Jeff–if I remember correctly at the end of the 3rd quarter he had 25 and they were down by 7. At the end of the 4th he had 25 more and they won.

  • marcusgresham

    I think Hartman’s more of a perimeter guy than Cardinal, though, isn’t he? Cardinal was a banger–should’ve played at Wisconsin.

  • SCHoosier

    Hell i’d take that in a minute altho he’d have to attend thug school. Brian C made millions with a long career in the pro’s..tell me THAT was expected. Quality long range shooter and a banger..all he needed.

  • Kenneth234

    Cardinal hit some big perimeter shots too. I could deal with a player being a rugged player, if that is his niche; it was the jersey he wore and his ability to make big shots that made me hate him.

  • Hoosier Brews62

    Give the kid a chance prove himself before making a comment like that