That’s A Wrap: Yogi Ferrell

  • 04/04/2013 10:14 am in


Welcome to “That’s A Wrap,” our player-by-player recap of the 2012-2013 Indiana Hoosiers. Today: Yogi Ferrell.

Ferrell (36 games): 7.6 ppg, 4.1 apg, 2.8 rpg, 40.3% FG, 79.8% FT in 28.1 minutes per game.

Indiana’s 2012 recruiting class was tagged as “The Movement” because it was expected to help take the program back to its elite status. But for the most part, Indiana’s freshman class failed to live up to lofty expectations in its first season.

The class once called “The Movement” effectively became “Yogi Ferrell and Co.” based on production on the court. Ferrell had almost an instant impact for the Hoosiers when the season began, and he played a large role in Indiana’s success throughout the season.

Ferrell served as Indiana’s starting point guard, and he showed remarkable growth and development with his court vision, defense and leadership. Ferrell was Indiana’s second best on-ball defender behind Victor Oladipo, and he did a solid job of taking care of the ball in the majority of the Hoosiers’ games this season.

Ferrell’s passing skills and instincts are nearly impossible to teach, and he figures to be a large part of Indiana’s future. But like every college freshman, Ferrell experienced some bumps in his mostly-successful freshman campaign.

At times this season, Ferrell shot the ball very well from the outside. He knocked down 3-of-4 of his attempts from beyond the arc against both Penn State and Purdue, and he had two 3-pointers in three other games. But Ferrell’s outside shot is wildly inconsistent, and something that hurt the Hoosiers at times this season.

Some teams played off of Ferrell on top and dared him to shoot from the perimeter. When he shot it with confidence, it often went in. But Ferrell too often turned down open looks and instead tried to force it elsewhere. With a large portion of Indiana’s scoring likely to be gone when next season rolls around, Ferrell needs to develop a much more consistent perimeter shot to be a multidimensional Big Ten point guard.

There’s also no way to ignore the way Ferrell closed the season. After posting 16 points, eight rebounds and six assists in Indiana’s second-round win over James Madison, Ferrell struggled in the Hoosiers’ final two games. He didn’t score in either game, going a combined 0-of-4 from the field with seven turnovers and only four assists.

Ferrell looked especially out of place against Syracuse, which flustered the young point guard with its length and athleticism. When faced to make a quick decision whether to shoot the ball against the zone or not, Ferrell often chose the latter and made things difficult for his teammates as a result. He was yanked from the game late in the first half, and opened the second half on the bench.

Ferrell came in too “hollywood” for Will Sheehey’s taste, and left humbled by the depth of the NCAA Tournament.

Bottom line: Despite his late-season struggles, Ferrell had a strong freshman season for the Hoosiers and figures to be one of their top contributors next season. If Ferrell can develop a consistent outside jump shot to go along with his explosiveness, passing ability, and defensive savvy, he could easily be one of the nation’s top point guards a year from now. Without the jump shot, though, he and the Hoosiers could really have a hard time scoring because of a lack of perimeter shooting threats on next year’s roster.

Previously: Hanner Mosquera-Perea, Peter Jurkin

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  • Arch_Puddington

    It is such a cliche to say, but guard play is decisive in the NCAA tournament. All 4 teams left have gotten outstanding play out of their guards,while IU is home after its back court was outscored 38-0. Yogi had a good season, but not, in my mind, a great one. His development is probably as important as any other single factor in our success going forward. If he becomes a truly top player, we become legitimate national title contenders. If not, it will be much harder to make that final leap from “really good” to “great”. He is a talented player and a known winner, so I guess I like our chances.

  • Daburns0

    I think Yogi had a really good year. It didn’t help that we had so many offensive options besides him. I would like him to develop more of a Trey Burke type of game (DUH). He can do everything like Burke does, so if he can add scoring and keep improving defense, then he will have a huge year.

  • B1G Hoosier Daddy

    I think the biggest number Yogi needs to improve upon is 1.96. His assist to turnover ratio has a lot of room for improvement. Guys will miss shots of course but I think if he can continue to excel at getting the ball to the open man and cut down on his turnovers, he can develop into a first team all B1G pg next year

  • Shooting the ball isn’t as important to me as assists and turnovers for a pg. I hope he can break the habit of jumping in the air before he knows for sure What to do with the ball.

  • Indiana_Banners

    Yogi can always improve on his turnovers but you should realize that a 1.96 A:TO ratio is very good for a freshman or any player. Hulls didn’t achieve a 2:1 A:TO ratio until his senior year. Yogi’s passing was better than fine.

  • SeattleHoosier

    “Good but not great” accurately describes Yogi’s season. In my mind, the only question is whether he’s got the work ethic to cross into the “great” category. My money is on “yes, he does”, but time will tell whether he leverages this off-season time or not.

  • I believe it was Indiana’s 2012 recruiting class that was tabbed “The Movement” First paragraph has a type and says 2013. First year was rough, but I think by the time they’re done developing, 2012 will be a very good class.

  • Evansville Hoosier

    Yogi “greatly underperformed expectations”? In what sense? He gave our offense an entirely new dimension. Were you expecting him to be Trey Burke when he’s starting along side FOUR 1000 point career scorers as a freshman?

  • He had some ups and downs for sure, but that is life as a frosh. You remember Zeller going up against MSU his first year? Got dominated. It happens to the best of the them. I think he will take a big leap next year with his shot as he gets his strength worked out. If he does I think that will make him less prone to driving in there and throwing it away because he will be more confident that he can knock down a jumper instead. We are going to need a lot from him next year no doubt. Especially given he’s really our only true PG on the roster. Crean needs to be looking at another PG for the ’14 class because if Yogi has a great year he may be gone. Depends on if Zeller comes back, but I think a lineup of Yogi, Will, Jeremy, Noah, Cody would be top 3 in the Big Ten. Iowa may be the best next year with UM/IU/MSU/OSU again.

  • Kelin Blab

    Yogi far from underperformed….at PG and still a freshmen….he lead his team to 29 wins!

  • Kelin Blab

    I think Yogi had a GREAT year:
    + As a freshmen coming in leading the #1 team in the country is not easy.
    + There were times he didn’t look like a freshmen and times he did.
    + My hope is he improves his shooting and is more aggressive on looking for his shot. Yogi can get into the lane but at times kicks out for a shot when he had a better one.
    + I do like Yogi’s defense and I think it will only get better.

  • CreamandCrimson

    “Crean needs to be looking at another PG for the ’14 class…”

    While I don’t think it’s anything more than extremely remote possibility Yogi will leave after his sophomore season, we are definitely recruiting PG’s for the 2014 class. Jaquan Lyle, Dante Exum (who I think looks tremendous) are definitely PG’s and Theo Pinson could probably play that position is absolutely needed. You are right though, one scholarship should probably go to a PG in that class.

  • MillaRed

    I think the important thing regarding Yogi’s jumper is it was always right there. He was not laying bricks out there. This kid can shoot the ball. It’s purely mental and I don’t think we will be having that conversation this time next season. In fact I think he will be our best player sans Cody.

  • inadvertentelbows_stillhurt

    Yogi had a great year..needs to just go to the lab and develop some shots off the dribble..floaters,banks & tear drops…finishing at the rim with his speed will open up the jump shot.

  • Ole Man

    He should have passed to them more at times. But that’s being “nit-picky”.
    Yogi was good; not great yet.
    Has the opportunity going forward.

  • SCHoosier

    Yogi’s Freshman “Grades” from Professor SCHoosier:

    -Assist-TO ratio A
    -Defense A-
    -FT shooting…..B+
    Passing B- (too many lazy or off target entry passes to CZ and those low, hard pool cue spinning passes he used against the ‘Cuse zone were awful. Then there is the wild passing while “off the ground” thing.
    Shooting C (B+ for going to the hole)
    3 pt shooting D
    Leadership B (the team was Jordy’s)

    Potential A

    I think we should keep him:) Needs that in the lane floater and reliable 3 pt shot. Maturity will take care of everything else.

  • I have every bit of confidence that Yogi will be greatly improved in his shooting. He will be a much more balanced point guard for us next season.

  • plane1972

    “Theo Pinson is definitely coming to IU, count on it. If he doesn’t he will prob go to Duke and I will be really surpised.”

    That is absolutely, hands-down, no doubt about it, the most definitive post I’ve ever read…maybe. Just teasin’ ya, Mooks. You were extremely persuasive there for a split second.

  • Andrew

    Iowa? Oh no, Dakich got to you too. They haven’t made the tourney in 7 years but are going to leapfrog everyone else overnite? No way. Plus, the IU lineup you named w/ Cody would be top 1 in the B1G, not top 3. That would be 3 guys who played starter’s minutes plus a McD’s AA and a guy who got a little run this year. Figure in Yogi not being a frosh and Cody a year older, 3rd in the B1G would be disappointing.

  • Andrew

    One thing Yogi needs to learn is how to throw a lob. He didn’t throw one all year. In fact, the entire teams needs to learn how; I remember 3 all year. One was a spectacular miss, one was a reverse layup (high degree of difficulty, still worth 2 points) and the other was Creek-to-Etherington when we were up 50 (I think we can all agree that is an unlikely combo). Maybe IU should bring in Brett Comer as a consultant. One of the most frustrating things about Yogi is his propensity for throwing the ball at a guy’s feet. This isn’t Park Tudor anymore! With Troy Williams filling the lane now, it’s something that we should practice. Not to be flashy, but as a practical way to get an easy basket.

  • MillaRed

    Well there are at least two Yogi haters out there today. Didn’t realize he was such a burden.

  • MillaRed

    Did our Sweet 16 exit cost Victor the AP POY award?

  • HoosierBeatdown

    They vote before the Madness starts…

  • Ryan Mehringer

    I think that Yogi had a really good season. He wasn’t going to put up huge scoring numbers but he did a great job of running the offense and giving the hoosiers what they needed that we didn’t have last year…..a true point guard. I believe his scoring will go up as he matures as a player and he will only get better. Glad he signed with the hoosiers

  • Kenneth234

    I want to say that I think Yogi’s freshman campaign was as good as anyone should realistically expect from any freshman. He was not lights out, but no one should have expected him to be. But there are some things that I would really like for Yogi to improve on, many of which haven’t been mentioned on this thread. Some of this also depends on CTC adding some new dimensions to the offense.

    1. I would really like to see him drive to the basket after utilizing a ball screen, rather than simply attempting to go one on one against his match up.

    2. On defense, now that he has shown his ability to stay in front of his man, I would really like to see him utilize some of his quickness going for the ball; just attempt some steals!

    3. Of course he needs to stop the shoe string passes, but I would also like to see him be very dependable pulling up for a mid range jumper.

    4. As a 6 footer, he needs to be less interested in taking charges around the basket, rather than trying for a strip of the ball. I would rather him pick up a foul taking a shot, rather than taking a big shot while not really contesting the shot.

  • Kelin Blab

    I have seen Yogi throw plenty of lobs….at IU he didn’t have anyone to throw it to and IU’s offense isn’t set up exactly for those opportunities.

  • doodle777

    Yogi is not going to get any taller or faster, I actually think Hulls dribbled past defenders as good as or better than Yogi. I am also not saying he is a bad player, Its just with all the hype I expected so much more, As far as getting better , These kids are born with a ball in their hand, they play year around against great competition, Dipo is the exception to the rule and most dont improve dramatically. expecially when they don’t have the size needed to excel at this sport, he was great against 2A high schollers that he could dribble around but he can’t do it at this level and won’t be any quicker 4 years from now

  • MillaRed

    Imagine Jordy being put in the same position as Yogi as a FR with the same expectations for the team.

    I would say Yogi was borderline great under the circumstances.

  • MillaRed

    An 18 year old leading a team that held the #1 ranking more than any other team in the country and this is your evaluation? Good grief man.


    I would agree with each and everyone of your grades professor. Other than his shooting / 3 pt shooting, I think his passing grade is the one that goes up the most next year. If we graded his passes each individually for the year that just ended he had more than one or two that would have been an A, but he mixed in just enough passes that, again, if graded individually, would have graded out in the D or F range and was enough to keep his overall grade from being a B+ or A-.


    There is nothing to say that he won’t get quicker, a whole lot, probably not, but when you’re as quick as he is to start with, another step or even another half a step makes a big difference. What also has to be taken into consideration is that he will be smarter, more experienced, of which there is no substitute for, and probably stronger as well. Every player has parts of their game that is weaker than other parts of their game and most, if not all, learn how to minimize those parts of their game by playing smarter overall. Add in all of the above and mix in the fact that he will, hopefully, have a much more consistent outside shot and it will make it look like he got a step or two faster whether he really did or not cause they won’t be able to defend him from a step or two away anymore.


    Your number 1 is a very good point. With the quickness and court vision he has it would increase his ability to make something happen as in an easier pass to a even more open teammate or an easier shot one would think. Would like to hear what Crean would say if asked why they didn’t try doing that.

  • calbert40

    I think he was “good but not great,” at least by the standards of the rest of the players on the team. If you compare him to other freshmen around the country, especially other PGs, I think saying he was only “good” is selling him short.

    Our starting lineup plus Will (like our 6th starter) had a multitude of scoring options. Where did Yogi fit in the scoring hierarchy? I’d put him as the 6th option out of our main 6 players. He wasn’t counted upon to score, but he did average over 4 assists per game. That translates to 8-9 ppg (I’m sure a few of those dimes hit CWat as the trailer). That pushes him up to 14-15 ppg that he personally accounted for. Pretty solid for the 6th scoring option.

    Yes, he looked gassed and completely overmatched against Syracuse, but I think that will be used as fuel for him over the summer. I expect great things out of Yogi next season. Put me down for double digit ppg and an improvement in his A:TO ratio as well as becoming one of the vocal leaders of the team. I’m excited to see him next season. He is a pure winner.

  • calbert40

    I find it interesting how many people believe Yogi “greatly underperformed,” especially when they cite how The Movement was a disappointment. Follow me here: Yogi was the ONLY significant freshman contributor this year, I think we all agree on that point. Effectively then, the ONLY major difference between this year’s roster and last year’s was Yogi Ferrell.

    With that understood, we went from the middle of the B1G to winning the B1G outright for the first time in 20 years, we became a great road team, and we earned a #1 seed in the NCAA where we earned a Sweet 16 berth before bowing out to a team in the Final Four.

    Sure, you can argue that our returning players improved, and I would not disagree with that point in the slightest, but I think we need to acknowledge that while his stat line isn’t gaudy, the insertion of Yogi in the lineup brought us something we haven’t had in years: a true distributing PG who had the ability to score.

  • SeattleHoosier

    Completely agee with your assessment. If the baseline is good point guards, he was “good”. If the baseline is good FRESHMEN point guards, he was very good/great. Obviously, my baseline was the former. Also think he will put in the time to develop.

  • calbert40

    If you think all Yogi played against nothing but “2A high schoolers,” you aren’t very well read on the subject. Park Tudor traditionally plays quite a difficult schedule. During Yogi’s time there, they would regularly play Lawrence North, Lawrence Central, Cathedral, Chatard, Pike, etc. Park Tudor may be a smaller school, and due to that must play a few cupcakes, but they take on all comers.

    Secondly, he was every bit as dominate on the AAU circuit as he was in HS, so it is obvious that he can handle the toughest competition.

    Finally, you mention Oladipo being the exception to the rule, RE: vast improvement after freshman season. Oladipo’s tremendous improvement stemmed from a significant increase in shooting accuracy and efficiency. That happens through practice. He was always quick and played good D. He added another level to his game by improving his shooting, which kept people from playing 5 feet off of him from the outside.

    Yogi is already quick, plays good D, has a decent shot and a 2:1 Assist to TO ratio. He was FAR more polished as a freshman than Victor. Yogi is a winner. He seems to be a dedicated player, and I would be more surprised if he didn’t improve greatly over the next couple of years than if he did.

  • calbert40

    Right. I heard an analyst today say something like only twice in the past 25 years has a team won the national title when their starting PG was a freshman (UK last year, and I forget the other one).

    PG is the hardest position on the court, and if you have a freshman at that spot, you typically are going to have some struggles. We really didn’t. We improved over last season.

    I didn’t expect much more of him than what we got. I was hoping for good D, strong A:TO ratio, leadership and 20+ minutes per game. He delivered on all of those with a small caveat on leadership. I think he will be a leader, but it wasn’t required of him this year…not with Jordy, Vic and Will on the team.

    I’m glad he’s our PG, and I look forward to seeing his continued development.

  • Andrew

    Didn’t IU have a 7-footer that played 30 minutes a game? And Vic is moderately athletic. Didn’t have anyone to throw it to…not quite. Where have you seen these lobs, the Indy summer league? Because it certainly didn’t happen this past season.

  • WatchingYogi_atYogis

    Having watched Yogi play in AAU ball, I created my screen name after him in expectation and bet a fellow fan in January of 2012 that he would start at least 97% of the games in the 2012-13 season. For me, it wasn’t as much how good of a player Yogi was, but how desperately I felt we needed a true point guard that made him the most anticipated of the vaunted freshman class, famously coined “the Movement.” One season in and we are still waiting for the movement to completely arrive. We didn’t have to wait for Yogi to arrive. He ended up starting every game. And for most of the season, his ability to push the ball up the court with vision contributed to a blistering offense that ranked along with the team among the best in the nation. His defense surprised me to a degree, as he was better and more aware than I imagined he would be. For the greater part of the season, I thought the level of play declined sharply each time he came off the court.

    Still, there is plenty of work left to do. More surprising than his defensive ability was how he struggled to find his shot. Several theories of why were advanced, because he was a more dangerous shooter at lower levels. Were his arms to big? Does he use too much leg or jump instead of adjusting his form to the situation? Whatever the cause, defenses picked up on it and challenged him to beat them, rather than play him close, only to watch him go by and find the open man. Crean benched him often against the zone during the year. Then it all came to a head in the nightmare game against Syracuse. He struggled to attack the zone, either attempting to force passes through the perimeter shell as they sagged off, driving too deep and leaving his feet in an attempt to bail out, pushing when it wasn’t there or exercising too much caution when we needed decisive action. In the college game dominated by point guards, Yogi will need to mature his decision making to make our offense more adaptable and consistent, if we are going to make a deep run that we missed this year. For Yogi at least, he’s got a ton of experience under his belt and plenty of time left to apply it.

    Next year, point guard should represent perhaps our most confidence inspiring position.

  • MillaRed

    Was just calling out the “dislikes” not anyone in particular.

  • iuoiu

    With Yogi’s size, I don’t see him leaving early for the NBA unless he has VO-type improvement for the next two seasons.

  • CreanFaithful

    That bet sounds made up…

  • SCHoosier

    He has to be at least a THREAT to score or many of the “dribble-drive-dish” options will be negated by packing the paint and giving Yogi the shot.

  • The real movement come this

  • Totally agree.

  • CreanFaithful

    I agree SC. Oladipo got the same defensive sag before he developed a consistent perimeter game. Fortunately, both of those guys have unbelievable explosion and are still able to make plays when the defense isn’t being honest. But Yogi’s distributing will become worlds easier once he becomes a scoring threat. I anticipate him calling his own number much more frequently next year. He already shoots the 15 footer well. Adding a consistent three point shot and a floater in the lane would make him very dangerous.

    I too agree with Ocean… got to protect that ball. TO’s were probably the biggest factor in all of our losses this year. It’s one thing when the opponent chooses to run with us, but we seemed to make as many or more turnovers in games that were played in the half court. You just can’t have that in low scoring games where every possession counts!