The Minute After: Purdue

  • 02/08/2011 9:59 pm in

Thoughts on a 67-53 loss to Purdue:

Tonight’s performance reminded us a bit of the Hoosiers of old.

Missed shots — 22-of-62 from the field for 35.5 percent, 2-of-13 from three for 15.4 percent.

Blocked shots — eight swats for Purdue with JaJuan Johnson notching four of those.

Credit is due to Matt Painter’s kids, who entered the game at fourth in the Big Ten in allowing 1.05 points per possession to their opponents. Purdue’s defense — which held the Hoosiers to a season low 24 first-half points and a season low points total in a loss  — was perhaps the best these Hoosiers have seen all season. They were physical. They took away the three-point shot. They protected the paint and the rim. They got after an Indiana team that hadn’t played a road contest in over a week, that had been bolstered by a home crowd of late and that is without Christian Watford and Maurice Creek.

The Hoosiers simply struggled all night to establish anything on the offensive end.

Still, Indiana never lacked for effort and kept fighting — and that’s sometimes all you can ask for in a road bout like this against the No. 12 team in the country.

Though the Hoosiers never grabbed a lead or tie in the second half, they were within striking distance (4-10 points) until the clock became its enemy and there just wasn’t any time left to mount a run. Of course, only scoring four points in the last 4:54 of the game — a rough 1-of-10 stretch with two made Will Sheehey free throws — didn’t help matters.

But that was the story of the night for Indiana. Nothing doing on offense, as Purdue’s defense was just too much for them to overcome.

Other thoughts:

+ Another impressive performance for Sheehey tonight, save for that fast break he tried to lead in the first half that led to a charge call on him. He scored a career-high 14 points (5-of-12 from the field, 1-of-3 from three, 3-of-3 from the line) and had some strong takes to the hole. He also chipped in three boards, two assists a steal and a block.

+ As has happened on many occasions this season, the Hoosiers got dominated at the line. Purdue went there with frequency (23-of-28, 82.1 percent), while Indiana managed only seven trips — though they hit them all.

+ All and all, Indiana did a pretty solid job on JaJuan Johnson, who only went 4-of-10 from the field. Though, seven free throws allowed him to score 15 points in total and he did notch seven boards as well. The same can’t be said for the defensive job on the struggling-of-late E’Twuan Moore, who pumped in 25 points (7-of-15 from the field, 3-of-6 from three, 8-of-10 from the line). At one point the second half, Moore burned Jeremiah Rivers around the rim on successive Purdue possessions, and Crean pulled Rivers in favor of Daniel Moore.

You know it was a big night for E’Twuan if it comes to something like that.

Filed to:

  • I’m sitting this one out because I hate Purdue so so much.

  • Anonymous

    This was a Big East officiating crew.

  • Anonymous

    It is going to be deafening in there! Payback.

  • MillaRed

    The dude with the gray hair refs big ten games every week.

  • Anonymous

    Good Ol’ Jim Burr

  • Anonymous

    Their fans have no knowledge of the game. Of course we Hoosier fans are the most knowledgeable fans in the nation.

  • Anonymous

    I really hate PUke!

    GO IU!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Hoosiers just got out manned. Johnson and Moore are the real deal.

    Grad to see the Hoosiers play hard in Wackey Arena.

  • Anonymous

    How much residual was left over from the shot above the knee he took in the last game?
    I agree with everyone, that was his worst defensive showing of the year; but, given the way he’s responded to the criticism from last year to do what he’s done this year, I expect him to shut Moore down in Bloomington.

  • Anonymous

    Aceman:

    I agree with your assessment of BT officiating but I thought I heard Dak say that the zebras last night were a Big East crew. If that was true I guess they just wanted to be consistent with BT standards for overall officiating and the disparity in fouls called.

  • Anonymous

    I think he’ll be more likely to get open three looks in the future because no one wants to be eye-level to his kneecaps on in the Sportscenter Top 10.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Yeah, you see some crews that do multiple conferences but it doesn’t seem to matter. The B10 officials must instruct refs to call the game like a hockey game because it’s ridiculous compared to most conferences. Watch how many B10 teams get knocked out of the NCAA tourney early and pay attention to how much foul trouble they have and how many FT’s their opponents shoot! I’ve been watching this for a few years and it’s true. Big Ten teams often times can’t adjust to the style of game and officiating once the tournament rolls around.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    There was at least one official that refs Big Ten games regularly. I honestly think they’re told to call it rough!

  • Anonymous

    The answer is … NO!

  • JerryCT

    Woke up this morning wondering ………………. what is the limit on Sheehey’s upside potential ?

    I don’t know what is more exciting about next year … …. a) the arrival of Zeller or b) next year’s version of Sheehey.

    I am wondering also what kind of player VO becomes. To me he is more of a mystery.

    Right now however I think Sheehey is getting visibly better every game. He is putting some distance between him and others at his position.

    Creek is going to need a remarkable recovery at this rate to keep Sheehey off the court. I think Creek comes off the bench next year even if he is healthy. Will just does more things and is unafraid to take over.

  • JerryCT

    I don’t like whiny fans . I thought Maryland fans were the worst in basketball but PU may be gaining on them.

    Speaking of whining I do not think DE does himself any favors with the refs by acting like a PU fan on every call.

    If anybody has a right to complain it would be Jones who got seriously hand checked last night or Pritchard who got called for his customary phantom foul on JJ.

  • Anonymous

    You are exactly right. It has been a ongoing problem for B10 teams when they get in the tourney for years, which makes it all the more frustrating that they have never done anything about it. B10 teams adjusting to how a conference game is being called, which is saying something sometimes, is not the same thing as them trying to adjust to how a tourney game is being called. When the other team has to make little or no adjustments as to how the game is being called it can make be the difference between a win or a loss in a very close game. That sounds stupid to say but I have watched it be a problem for our conference teams for years also.

  • Anonymous

    Yea it was ” I’ve been around for a thousand years Jim Burr “. Could it be that he was the head official and since it sounded like the others usually did Big East games he set the tone and the other two just followed his lead / instructions ? I can just hear him planting the seed by telling the other two what it was like to have to put up with IU’s coach when BK was there.

  • Anonymous

    Can’t be to upset with the loss. It was expected and IU actually played them pretty tough. It certainly didn’t help that IU couldn’t buy a bucket and that PU completely outmatched us at just about every position. Enjoy it now Boiler fans because things will be back to normal in a year or two.

  • IUJeff

    Could not agree more. We definitely lack motion and become easier to guard with VJ at the point. VJ is a great kid, a good player, but has to understand that we don’t need him to do it all any more.

  • Anonymous

    Totally agree. As good as Zeller looks, you still never know how someone will adapt to playing bigger guys and better competition (although I think he’ll be fine, you never know). And players usually make their biggest jump into their sophomore seasons. VO and WS could be pretty great for us next year, especially if they are able to learn from JR’s defensive tenacity. That’d be two athletic wings who can shoot the 3, drive, dunk, and play D. Definitely looking forward to seeing their development.

  • IUJeff

    Love the freshman. When JuJuan’s blocks were replayed late in the first half, most will be called fouls at IU. PUke won’t be allowed to body us so much at home. We will be in the bonus early. Bring VJ off the bench to mesh with the established offensive flow and we get the calls = win in Bloomington on 2/23.

  • jaywiz

    Like many others, i was not expecting a win tonight. I recently bought tickets for the IU/PU game at Assembly Hall and wanted to see if we stood a chance at pulling off the upset. After this game on the road, in a hostile environment, I say that we can, and we will upset Purdue on 23 February, 2011. Gonna get crazy in Btown.

    P.s> -Thank you Purdue fans for cahnting IU sucks. You just made it impossible for your team to win in Bloomington. Unfortunately for you, Purdue will soon be the team that sucks perenially, seeing as Indiana now belongs to Tom Crean. Enjoy 3rd place while you got it, PU, I hear 7th place calling your name. Boiler down!

  • Anonymous

    I’ve been a longtime reader of this site, but a first time commenter. I’m staggered by the difference in opinion on this board versus the HT board. I thoroughly reading both sites, but it just seems like there is a more rational discussion of an admittedly less-than-stellar situation (IU hoops) here than over there. As an alum and a lifelong IU fan, I too am frustrated by the rebuilding process (for many reasons), but there is no way to deny the change in the team’s attitude over the past 8 games. The results aren’t there (in terms of wins), but it sure as heck isn’t because of lack of effort (minus the first Iowa game), and it’s not because the coaching staff cannot coach. The players are doing their best (generally) to overcome a relative lack of talent and a clear shortage of skilled bodies on the bench due to injury. The coaching staff has made some fundamental adjustments over the past month to better utilize what the team is (not what the fans wish it was), and assuming we end up signing the vast majority of the 2012-2014 verbals, IU hoops is going to be back as an annual contender for the Big 10+2 title and a threat in the tournament.

    Just my $0.02.

  • millzy32

    OSU beat them by 20 plus. OSU is the real deal this year Purdue is not. I would love nothing more than to beat them in THE HALL. Get the “Purdue Swallows” chants ready for when we beat them. It’ll be payback time.

  • millzy32

    I couldn’t help but think of your comments as I watched the debacles unfold last night after each and every timeout. Not sure what is going on during timeouts but at this point why even call them. It is only worse after we do.

  • MillaRed

    I have been saying this for years. It no doubt is an issue. Especially for Wisconsin who exits the tourney early every year. The hand-checking and pushing doesn’t fly in the tourney.

    Michigan State is more of an SEC/ACC type team that relies on more athleticism and I think that’s why they have enjoyed so much tournament success.

  • MillaRed

    The weird thing about last night is they have 8 seconds out of a TO and you can see clearly the play was for Jordy to launch a 3. There was still about 4 seconds on the clock when he threw it into the clouds.

    I’m thinking, Really? Did that just happen? Come on man!

  • MillaRed

    On many occasions he gets blocked at the rim but who cares? I love the aggression. CWat had the same problem and we saw what the weight room did for him. He powers through at the rim this year and Will can do the same.

    I’m not wearing the rosey glasses today guys. I haven’t seen any freshmen in the Big Ten as athletic and hungry as these two kids. Other teams have to be thinking, “Oh shizzz, these guys are going to torch us eventually.”

    Grabbing top rated recruits is one thing. But snagging these two was just plain robbery. If I was watching IU for the first time last night, and someone told me they were both top 40 recruits, I would not have blinked an eye.

    We have this 2012-2013 class we covet and these two fit ANYWHERE on those teams. I love them!

  • MillaRed

    Right now Victor kinda reminds me of the really strong toddler with the puppy. You watch him pet him, ask him not to be rough, but he can’t help it and eventually gets bitten.

    At any rate, he is so damn athletic he doesn’t even know what to do with it yet. Did you see that layup he had last night? I mean, that kid is a FREAK.

    The great thing about our FR is their hunger. They have that desire to excel.

  • MillaRed

    Barlow grabbed his arm out of complete disrespect and Jordy didn’t dig it.

    I have a question for you Barlow. When you walk the streets in the state on Indiana, does anyone know who the hell you are? I sure wouldn’t. Everyone, I mean everyone knows who Jordy is.

    Do you know why? First of all, you average 5 ppg. My stinky butt could do that buddy. And there is this Mr. Basketball thing? Oh you don’t have one of those do you?

    Barlow is a nobody.

  • MillaRed

    Barlow grabbed his arm out of complete disrespect and Jordy didn’t dig it.

    I have a question for you Barlow. When you walk the streets in the state of Indiana, does anyone know who the hell you are? I sure wouldn’t. Everyone, I mean everyone knows who Jordy is.

    Do you know why? First of all, you average 5 ppg. My stinky butt could do that buddy. And there is this Mr. Basketball thing? Oh you don’t have one of those do you?

    Barlow is a nobody.

  • MillaRed

    This is an opinion.

    Once again, 2nd half FTs PU 24 – IU 3

    I think we are not doing enough bitching. But that is just me.

    If you think that is justified, we will need to disagree.

  • millzy32

    Here’s to hoping that Austin Etherington is close to something like Will Sheehey next year. If that happens along with Cody and VO has another year of seasoning this team could go from bad/improving to good/scary. All eyes pointed up for next year. Could really use another big though so Crean get out there and get us one more for 11′

  • Anonymous

    Yea, you’re right, Wisconsin is the poster child for this kind of thing. I know Bo’s style of play is not real conducive to major tourney success year in and year out but at the same time they don’t go from being a pretty solid team against whoever they are playing most years to a team that just implodes all of a sudden, come tourney time, just about every year.

    With the B10 playing more games resulting in them making more money you would think that that would be enough of an incentive to clean it up and make some major changes. Just proves what I’ve always said, just because somebody is making the big bucks doesn’t automatically make them smarter than everybody else.

  • Anonymous

    Was going to make a reply comment but I think the 12 likes, and counting, pretty much says it all doesn’t it ?

  • millzy32

    That would be a nice chant “Boiler Down”. Personally I would like to hear “Overrated” as we beat them on the 23rd.

    Go Hoosiers.

  • HoosierFromCT

    Your job as a father is complete. I think it’s safe to let your girl go because she’s already made the smartest decision of her life.

  • Sheehey needs to improve in 2 areas IMO. He needs to be able to go to his left more often and he needs to shoot the ball better from 3.

  • Anonymous

    The end of the Iowa game and this example is why I am still withholding judgment on this part of Crean’s game. I’m thinking that it’s as much the players not doing what he draws up or not doing it specifically how he had drew it up. The end of the Iowa game really looked like an example of the players not doing what they were supposed to do.

    But it is on Crean to come up with something that will work for what he has to work with too. If this AND our out of bounds plays do not improve dramatically next year then I feel like we know who the blame resides with.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Exactly. Wisconsin was the team I had in mind when I originally made the statement. I’ve also watched other teams the past few years bow out early because of this issue. I didn’t see it as a real problem until about the mid 90’s. That’s really when it started. Think about IU’s team in 2002 when the went to the championship game. They didn’t perform great or win the B10 because they got beat up in the conference most the time and they were more of a finesse team. Jeffries, Newton, Stemler, etc. were guys who played more of an ACC style game and they were very successful in the tournament although they had no chance to win the Big Ten with the way it’s officiated.

  • HoosierFromCT

    Agreed. I’m a big VJ supporter. The guy just knows how to score, which is why he’s a SG. I don’t think he should be benched. Start at him at the 2 and run some Rip Hamilton type looks for him because VJ has the mid range game.

  • Anonymous

    These two kids are further proof that, one, the number of stars next to a recruit’s name aren’t the one and only defining factor of how good a kid will be and, two, Crean seems to be able to be a very good evaluator of talent and very good at finding the kids that others obviously overlook.

    The results we have gotten from these two are one of the main reasons that I am in the camp that feels like AE will be a big part of us being a lot better next year.

  • Anonymous

    Ditto on what IUJeff said.

  • MKH

    Like everyone else I’m loving Sheehey. He reminds me alot of Hornsby- a better athlete, although Hornsby was a very good athlete as well, Will just isn’t consistant enough YET w/ his jump shot, looks good, just not going in consitantly…I don’t have an explanation, not big on shot mechanics but maybe his shot has too much arc?

    Something was weird w/ Rivers last night…defense was off but I think more importantly he was nowhere to be found on the offense, I could probably count on one hand how may times he touched the ball. It seemed like he was always isolated on one side while all the action took place on the other?

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Well, DD called it last night when he called out Indiana’s inbound play perfectly. He said they would set a screen with one big who would fake the screen and slip to the goal. If he wasn’t open they would hit the guard out top and another big would set a ball screen for him. He guessed that because it’s the play we run EVERY freaking inbound!

    From under the basket we run the same play every time as well. A big (usually TP) screens in the middle of the lane for guys running towards the corners. We never throw it to them. Instead he rolls of the screen to the top of the key, we throw it to him and then a guard (usually Hulls who through it in) comes around to get the ball. It’s almost like we throw it in with the intent to start the dribble drive offense instead of throwing it in with the intent to score.

    When’s the last time we through the ball in under the basket for a layup, or to the corner for a three? Also, with Will, Vic, TP, CWat, and JR all capable of receiving lob passes and at least scoring a layup off it, have we thrown a lob off an inbound pass yet this year???

  • “Boiler Up” is the dumbest, most nonsensical phrase in college sports. It hurts my brain every time I hear it, and over the past five years, I’ve heard it far too many times.

  • Yeah, we have guys like VO and WS, and PUke has Travis Carroll (DNP), Anthony Johnson (DNP), and Terone Johnson (1-4 from the floor, 1:1 asst/TO ratio). Next year we’re getting AE and CZ, while they’re getting … Donnie Hale?

    If Creek is healthy next year, we will be putting a more talented team on the floor than PUke (even with Hummel). Porkchop Painter should get used to our scraps from here on out.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    The only thing I disagree with is TP taking a step back. I thought he played great last night. He scored 6 points and had 6 boards and played good D on JJ all night! That’s about as good a line as you’re going to see from the boy on a standard night. I don’t think we can get used to seeing 12/7 with him. I agree that he’s going to be a real nice post player next year when CZ is playing next to him. He’ll clean up backside boards for easy put backs all year long with CZ getting double and guys crashing on him.

    Starting Lineup Next Season (IMHO):
    Hulls
    Sheehey
    Watford
    Pritchard
    Zeller

    We go from one of the smallest teams in the country to one of the bigger, stronger teams. Jones can come in for Hulls, Creek or VO for Sheehey, Elston for TP or CW, and Zeller can play 40 minutes. HA! Just kidding with that one but we’ll definitely need him to play substantial minutes right away!

  • Glawton12

    Not to stir any pots, and I really hate singing the “help is on the way tune,” but can anyone direct me to a site where I can see what commitments Purdue has and who they are targeting? I feel like ITH does a great job of informing us as to who else is interested in our recruits, but there’s probably going to be a bit of a bias here no matter how slight, and I’d like to see who they think they have a realistic shot at. Beyond Gary Harris, I can’t recall the last time I heard about a kid both IU and PU are targeting, and I’d like to see what they have coming down the pipe so I can get a better idea of what to expect from them in the post-Johnson/Moore era.