Video: A look at IU’s offseason workouts thus far

  • 04/13/2018 11:07 am in

Indiana’s social media presence is strong, so it should be no surprise that the program has already showcased a few brief clips of its offseason workouts this spring in recent weeks.

In addition to the brief workout videos released, director of athletic performance Clif Marshall has also released a few notable tweets sharing some progress for individual players.

We’ve compiled everything notable that’s been released from the offseason thus far below for your enjoyment in an easy digest format:

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  • SCHoosier

    Loved that Fit Lite work out to improve lateral quickness! These players probably don’t get the respect they deserve for their commitment to get physically ready.

  • marcusgresham

    I’ve heard the name. Don’t remember who he’s with.
    My problem is twofold–first my local paper is the Louisville Courier-Journal which used to have reporters who covered IU. Now it’s just non-stop U of L/UK crap. If there is an IU story it’s something a few days old they got from the Indy Star. Second, the radio in my car is dead (and I drive a lot for work,) so I can’t follow much that way either. I can listen to the one hour of IU coverage we get a day if I happen to be at my desk from 11 to 12, but that’s usually when I go to lunch and I share an office with someone so I can’t turn it up very loud.

  • Koko

    I’m not that big on the guys showing off their work out results as if it will change or
    make the upcoming season better. I think shooting free throws and threes would seem more important than having a six pack. I recall last year we got the same vids and pics on the players, DD and CH come to mind. Turns out CH couldn’t hit the side of a barn let alone three pointers after he bulked up. Is there a correlation?….I don’t know but the previous years when he was popping threes at will I don’t think he was lifting weights to the degree he did last year if at all.
    There are a lot of ways to get into bball shape without having to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger and diet plays a big part of that.
    And why did DD’s achilles pop? Maybe too much lifting and not enough stretching? He still got winded and looked tired when he played several minutes.
    Did he really change his diet? I’m all for the players staying in good physical shape but it sometimes appear they overdue it with the weight lifting. A good running/stretching routine and a good diet would suffice for most players.

  • sarge

    Hahaha, that is burn unit material. I actually feel bad for Haas in the sense that he is being used by this woman for a lawsuit and the media for clickbait. Why don’t we get her name as well as his? It just seems like he is being unfairly singled out when anyone in that situation knew getting an STD was certainly possible when you have sex. I mean, she did ask him supposedly if he was clean so she was supposedly worried about it and didn’t make him wear a condom, the most trusted way to prevent the spread of an STD? Then his name and his name only is blasted all over the media because he is the only one anyone would know. It seems like a low blow to a guy who is probably already disappointed in himself for being injured at the end of his college career. I hate Purdue, and I try to hate Haas but he still seemed likeable.

  • Mark Bando

    Off the top of my head, im thinking 80% – 90% basketball drills and 10% – 20% strength training sounds about right.

  • Koko

    And didn’t CH blow out his knee doing those drills in sand the year before last?

  • Koko

    That too.

  • sarge

    I guess that is why it is now a lawsuit? I am with you, and more over, what about the girl that gave him the std? It’s ridiculous that we know about it and are discussing it. That’s why I kinda feel for Haas.

  • Koko

    Overkill covers it for me. But I do like the lights thingy.

  • Koko

    Understood….but I’m not blaming what went wrong this past season on the off season bulking up. I disagree on your comment on CH starting the season hot…he did not. He was missing threes from the get go and it got worse as the season progressed and before the thumb problem. And I didn’t mention anyone else on not shooting well because of the off season work outs. I see the point of view on recruits seeing the facilities and what the strength coach can do for a player. That makes sense from a young man’s point of view.
    My main point is simply not to spend so much time working out when we need to improve our free throw shooting and of course three point shooting. Hopefully the new guys will be better at both but the vets need to work harder on their shooting from the line and three pointers. That to me is time well spent.

  • inCMitrust

    The Courier-Journal is now a disgrace to its long great history. An acquaintance of mine use to be the IU beat writer for the rag before they starting firing everybody.

  • VegasHoosier

    Sorry, but I think his accuracy prediction percentage is a joke. I read he often will change it the day before a kid commits when he’s been saying someone else a long time before but got a “scoop” at the last second.

  • Q46

    Going to have to disagree on with you on that last sentence. Lifting is a huge part of today’s game and a diet and running won’t suffice for most players. I don’t think they looked bulkier than any other team from last year and we can’t blame everything that went wrong on the off season workouts.

    Yes they struggled shooting last year but to be fair, outside of RJ there were no knock down shooters. CH actually started hot but once he hurt his thumb it was game over. That combined with learning a new offense led to a poor year shooting wise.

    It’s also important to realize that these pictures aren’t just for us, they’re for future recruits as well. Come to IU, we will get you in the shape you want to be in.

    I’d have to look up the to rules but I’m not sure what coaches can and can’t do during this time frame. I believe all these workouts are voluntary and the coaches can’t even have a practice full of free throws. I prefer to believe that the coaches are strongly encouraging the players to practice on their own and provide ample open gym opportunities.

    Finally, these guys leading the workouts are professionals. They’ve studied this stuff for decades and worked with professional athletes in multiple sports. I’m not sure it’s fair for us to judge it all based on a few pictures.

  • sarge

    Jake Forrester sitting courtside at the Philly/Miami game. My father and I were watching the game and had to rewind it just to make sure. This guy is awesome!

  • sarge

    My friends and I have talked about Cody in that respect. Go back and watch Shaq in college. He had decent touch and totally lost it all after he bulked up. I watched his last college game the other day, a tournament loss to my Hoosiers! I remember being worried leading up to that game as a kid. Matt Nover and Eric Anderson had to play him.

  • John D Murphy

    There is a lot of work these guys are putting in. I’m happy for them it is getting posted. They need to be in great shape with a certain amount of muscle to make it through the B1G. I’m sure cliff marshall knows to have the players stretch and no one looks like Arnold Schwarenegger. This comment rings of hyperbole and nonsense.

  • John D Murphy

    CH has been hurt off and on his whole IU career. DD popped an achilles and JM rolled an ankle. Neither of which is really workout related. I’m not really sure what you expect.

  • John D Murphy

    I think you diminishing the work these guys are putting by difference to light and flexing. That just isn’t true. You could tell the difference in Race’s body as the season went along.

  • John D Murphy

    Very cool.

  • coachv

    nah, not believing that

  • coachv

    get used to it. my wife worked as an editor and columnist for years for a couple metropolitan papers. quality reporting and writing are a thing of the past

  • cbags05

    Michael Jordan got his arse physically handed to him by the detroit pistons and decided he needed to hit the weights. If he has to, everybody should.

  • Koko

    Right….Jordan’s career changed so much for the better after Detroit, the dirtiest team in the NBA at the time, manhandled him in one game or was that in a playoff? All he had to do was lift some weights and his career took off like a rocket and Detroit stopped being the dirtiest team in the NBA. Jordan is not a good example for your opinion because Jordan was good weights or no weights.
    I wonder how many Lakers players started lifting weights after a tough playoff series with Detroit in the 80’s?….I can answer that….none.

  • John D Murphy

    Nope. Not at all. I regularly enjoy and appreciate Koko’s comments. I didn’t this one.

  • John D Murphy

    First. Had nothing to do the NBA comment. Didn’t bother me. I typed my response before I looked at who the poster was and I was surprised it was you as I normally enjoy your posts. 2nd I think we spent less time shooting in practice last year and more time proportionally learning defensive fundamentals. Something has to give. Free throw percentage was one of those things. 3rd We talk all the time about freshman not being physical enough to play in the big ten and you acknowledge the physical nature of the league. How do you think you get physical enough to play in big ten. It is a certain amount bulking up. Could it be overdone. Sure. I’m just not sure why you latched onto workouts as negative and counter-productive to shooting. Finally, sorry i didn’t take my time to frame my critique more eloquently.

  • John D Murphy

    Agreed on Knight’s teams. That was the norm when Knight started. And like all things, Knight was too stubborn to change when everyone else did.

  • John D Murphy

    I don’t disagree that it was exaggerated. And they are reminiscent of the Crean era. I just think that appeals to the HS kids following and it was something the Crean staff did well. Apparently, it isn’t your cup of tea.

  • Koko

    intuitive

  • gokartmozart89

    Audit some HPER classes.

    Quite a few of these guys got physically manhandled by the B1G competition. Some strength training is overdue, and doesn’t necessarily preclude shooting drills. A strong upper body with good shooting form is going to shoot fewer airballs too.

    Side note: Looks like they’re skipping leg days. Those tooth picks are giving me flashbacks to Mo Creek’s senior season.

  • Koko

    Of course none of them look like Schwarenegger….I think you took that comment out of context. Actually I don’t think my claims were meant to be taken literally, nor did they not make sense. A person can overdo weight lifting and cause problems in execution for their sport. Happens all the time…but you know that….don’t you? As you are sure Cliff Marshall knows his stuff then we can only hope our shooting problems don’t continue because I doubt seriously a guy missing free throws needs to bulk up to correct whatever it is causing his free throw shooting problems. Maybe less time bulking up and more time practicing free throws? Can you explain why DD shot a good percentage on his free throws his first year and was so miserable his second year? What changed?
    Funny you talk to me like I’m not aware of the physical nature of the B1G. I’ve been watching the B1G for a very long time…probably much longer than you. Believe me, I’m not the idiot you are trying to convince others I am. And if you are in a snit over my NBA pr man comment, I apologize if that offended you. But I thought you had a sense of humor which apparently you don’t have.

  • coachv

    lol. mo creek’s toothpick legs did him in. didn’t play his senior season here though

  • Tyler D

    Hartman didn’t have Yogi creating great looks for him this year.

    I think it’s naive to think they aren’t working on basketball skills as we see shooting and dribbling drills in the videos posted.

  • Tyler D

    Exactly. Injuries happen all the time at every level to every team. This a 35 game grind in one of the toughest conferences in America.

  • Tyler D

    Assuming we start playing deeper in the BIG and NCAA tournaments. I’m confident that’s coming.

  • Koko

    Okay John…thanks for the reply. I appreciate it.
    I guess at least we both agree something has to give in relation to time spent practicing free throws and threes.
    I’m looking forward to the next couple weeks and of course next season. As I am sure you are too….it should be a fun ride. Are you going to Romeo’s announcement? Did I once see you comment that you live in or near New Albany?

  • Koko

    Times have changed for sure…..remember Jimmy Rayl? His nickname was “Splendid Splinter” and he played three years in the B1G unscathed and scoring a bunch of points.

  • Koko

    CH had many open looks this season….he just missed the shots. I too think it is naive to think we aren’t working on basketball skills….did I say we weren’t working on basketball skills? We make free throws we win games, we make threes we win games….whether one is fat or skinny or a six pack phenom.

  • Tyler D

    I don’t see many fat and or skinny guys creating/finishing good looks, playing tough defense or grabbing rebounds.

    He did miss some open shots, but he had far fewer good looks with Newkirk and Green running the show. I watched every game this year and most twice. The DVR doesn’t lie.

    I’m sure the staff is striking a nice balance with shooting/skills and weight room workouts. Al Durham in particular is going to be much better off at 175 than 160 in a long BIG season. Basketball is a contact sport.

  • Koko

    Okay Tyler….thanks.

  • gokartmozart89

    The 2-3 seasons worth of atrophy were very apparent at the end.

    And I didn’t say he wore a Hoosier uniform his senior year. GW played Memphis on national TV that season.

  • Fifty-fifty ball

    I just want to know how many FTs and jump shots there getting up each day. FTs were the difference in our ability to enhance our tournament resume. We were a terrible shooting team as everyone knows. Strength training while, I agree is beneficial, changes the feel of your shot. You really have to be diciplined while doing strength training by practicing your shot relentlessly or you risk relearning your own muscle memory for effective shooting.

  • John D Murphy

    Good memory about New Albany. I grew up there. I live in Utah at the moment so I will be there in spirit.

  • gokartmozart89

    Weight training wasn’t as popular and the three ball wasn’t a thing, just to name a couple ways in which the B1G and college ball in general has changed in the last 60 years.

    Ponder that while I get off your lawn.

  • Hoosier Hall

    Agreed. Strength training definitely affects your shooting (I’ve had first hand experience) but it can be corrected by getting shots up and adjusting to it. Classic “lean” basketball players aren’t going to pull in the rebounds and 50/50 balls against guys who can physically dominate them.

  • Tyler D

    Glad I could shed some light. Before we put this to bed for good I have a quick question, Koko. Do you think Yogi might be able to start hitting the broad side of a barn from 3 if he didn’t have such a muscular physique (40% for his career at IU, 38% for his NBA career.)

  • Koko

    My last comment was meant to have a conversation….no antagonism. Your condescending comment reeked of antagonism. There is nothing to ponder on my end, but it would be nice if you did get off my lawn.

  • Koko

    I will be there in spirit as well…..fingers crossed.

  • Koko

    I was talking about CH not being able to hit the broad side of a barn…..not Yogi. I never brought up Yogi. I watched Yogi play at IU a lot and I saw CH play this last season….no comparison. But to humor you, you are absolutely right….Yogi could not have been as good as he was in college and is now in the NBA, if he had not lifted weights. No weights…no Yogi…right?
    I mean we could spend the rest of the year just picking out players that fit your weight lifting point of view and I could bring up many fat or skinny guys who don’t lift weights and play very good college ball. So please do “put this to bed”…..I have.