At the Buzzer: Indiana 86, Howard 77

  • 11/12/2017 10:24 pm in

Quick thoughts on an 86-77 win over Howard:

How it happened: It wasn’t pretty, but Indiana picked up its first win in the Archie Miller era on Sunday night in Simon Skjodt Assembly Hall. Coming off of Friday’s dismal 90-69 loss to Indiana State, Sunday’s game afforded Indiana one tuneup before Wednesday’s Gavitt Games tilt at Seton Hall. The Hoosiers let the Bison hang around for most of the first half, but never were seriously challenged in the game’s final 20 minutes. The bright spots for Indiana were Al Durham Jr., Justin Smith and De’Ron Davis, who all finished in double figures. If not for a woeful 12-of-29 free throw performance, the final score would have been much more decisive. In a season that is going to be measured by game-to-game progress and improvement, Sunday was a small step forward for a group still trying to feel its way through playing in a new system.

Standout performance: The two aforementioned freshmen, Durham Jr. and Smith, were arguably the two best Hoosiers on the floor in the win. Durham Jr. provided an offense spark in the first half and finished with 16 points on 5-of-9 shooting. Smith, meanwhile, posted a double-double with 16 points and 12 rebounds.

Statistic that stands out: After committing 19 turnovers in Friday’s season opener, Indiana trimmed the number to 12 on Sunday night for a turnover percentage of 16.

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  • AndyCapp

    Not everyone measures success in terms of a banner. Yep I, and everyone else who is a IUBB fan would love another one. Most of us think or believe that Archie is a coach that could get us there. And I will never NOT support the team, unlike you.

  • AndyCapp

    Maybe your name should be inadvertantIUBBfan

  • AndyCapp

    Agreed. Hey people, Archie has only been teaching the kids a new system for MONTHs. Some of them have been playing under a diff college coach for YEARS. There is a MAJOR learning curve that some of them will get and, sadly, some won’t. These are the growing pains we’ve all been warned about.

  • inadvertentelbows_stillhurt

    If that was the case Mike Davis would be still be the coach… we are chasing banners.. not sweet 16s….. Mike Davis has been to more final 4s than Miller

  • AndyCapp

    No, you’re good and I know you weren’t referring to him specifically about the bus comment. There are DEF some to whom that comment applies and it’s a bit maddening to be sure. Haters will hate, am I right? 😉

  • inadvertentelbows_stillhurt

    Lucky to have a guy that made his name beating up on Lasalle and Duquesne…..okay you’re right…. you kinda sound like you might be Millers wife trolling by the way.

  • AndyCapp

    Then go follow TSU. Your bombastic opinions WON’T be missed.

  • inadvertentelbows_stillhurt

    Maybe

  • inadvertentelbows_stillhurt

    You’re welcome

  • SeeingRed

    That’s a good one. Best basketball school in the world? You really should start dealing in what IS, not what may (or may not) have been 30-40 years ago. The program can only go forward from where it is today, right now. There’s no flashback, no short cut, no amount of wishing that is going to make your fantasy a reality. The college basketball landscape is totally different now than it was back in the day. The best case scenario is that Archie can build a program capable of consistently contending for league titles, making deep tournament runs and playing a brand of basketball Hoosier fans can appreciate. That’s it.

    There are only a few schools that are in any other position, and IU hasn’t been one of those for a long time. That’s not give up talk — that’s just truth.

  • BlazeCrimson888

    I don’t care what anyone says, I’m always going to root for this team. Doesn’t matter if they change coaches, lose big games, lose cupcakes, miss shots, whatever. Anyone who stops being a fan after seeing these first two games this season isn’t really a fan. There are going to be growing pains. When you implement a new system, there are going to be some glitches. Doesn’t matter how much you prepare, they’re going to be there when you implement a new system. Even the greatest basketball mind in the world can’t change athletes’ natural split-second instincts. It takes time, practice, repetition, etc. Muscle memory doesn’t rewire itself overnight.

    With that being said, how about some of the good things from this game? Our underclassmen really impressed today. Davis, Durham, Smith, they all shined in some bright spots tonight. Davis making multiple shots through double/triple teams? Watch out. Smith with a double-double? Heck yeah. Durham showed some real energy tonight and also made some good shots. Sure some of our upperclassmen didn’t do as well as many might hope, but they’re unlearning the previous system at the same time. Tbh, I’d almost rather be impressed by our underclassmen than have the team be carried solely by the seniors. (Not trying to throw the seniors under the bus; I want everyone on the team to do well. I just think the future success of the program falls more upon our current underclassmen realizing their potential.)

    The future is bright, folks. Don’t dim these bright spots and make it harder than it has to be. If you really want these kids to succeed and the team win, come out, support the team, help them through these growing pains. These guys are still young men, and your cheers and support help more than you realize.

  • HoosierD

    Honest question…how is this “rebuilding” any different than what calipari does every year at Kentucky? He has a brand new group of freshmen who don’t know his system and little to no upper classmen to lean on, yet every year they are a contender. I know we don’t have Kentucky talent, but to me we can’t use this “rebuilding” excuse all year. At some point we have to look like a competitive team who can win some big games

  • Hoosier4life67

    Trumpers? Hmm, maybe you should go find your safe space and stay out of the forums. True Hoosiers are tough and can handle a little sarcasm. I didn’t hear the booing at the game but I did hear the applause after Davis hit a free throw. Personally I found it a bit funny and I’m sure Davis was thinking “its about dam time” himself.

  • Hoosier4life67

    yeah I noticed that also and was a bit shocked. Did the students all leave for veterans week end?

  • Hoosier4life67

    At least this team could play against a zone. Seems like not to long ago we had a superstar #1 team in the country that couldn’t play against a zone to save their life.

  • timamac

    YES! Chasing banners. Searching for #6 for 30 YEARS now! If IU isn’t chasing titles anymore, then we’re just another program.

  • timamac

    The point is, we need to be elite again!

  • bandyindy

    I agree with you totally, they attacked the zone tonight better then any Crean era team has. I thought the freshmen played great tonight, but it will take some time for these guys to learn a completely new system. We need to show patience as fans. I believe that Archie was a good selection as coach and we are on the right path. (IU77)

  • Oldguyy

    Now let me guess—you somehow think that’s a meaningful statistic, right?

  • IU_Nation

    We played much better, in my opinion, than the final score indicated. Really liked the defense in the first half. Thought rotations and effort were both excellent. I don’t know what happened in the second half, but I was encouraged by what I saw there tonight.

  • Ole Man

    This should be printed and distributed to our current fanbase…particularly the no-shows last night!

  • Ole Man

    Why are you projecting yourself onto the coach and the team?
    He has been universally declared the best hire in the country.
    If you knew what you were talking about you wouldn’t be posting your vapid comments on here but you would be getting paid to declare them to the world.

  • Ole Man

    The Beatles wrote a song about you…”I’m A Loser”….

  • Ole Man

    Who did I throw under the bus?
    Careful.
    You’re accusing me of actions that won’t stand up.

  • inadvertentelbows_stillhurt

    If banners from over 30yrs ago matter then a final 4 from the 2000’s matters also

  • inadvertentelbows_stillhurt

    You always resort to name calling…. the number 1 sign of a devalued opinion…no real facts just hateful name calling..

  • MK

    Who did you want them to get? You said yourself we haven’t been relevant since 87. You think Roy Williams was going to up and leave North Carolina? Plenty of coaches have cut their teeth at smaller schools and have went on to win big. Coach K coached at Army, as did your beloved Bob Knight.

  • inadvertentelbows_stillhurt

    I just say the facts… your man love for Coach Ryan doesn’t change that

  • AndyCapp

    lol, now that’s funny

  • Ole Man

    You and facts have have an adversarial relationship.

  • AndyCapp

    VERY well said!

  • Ole Man

    Now, now…take the humor at your expense as you should.
    You constantly besmirch and belittle the Hoosiers.
    Apparently there are no mirrors in your house for you to see how that makes you appear.

  • Outoftheloop

    DeRon, Justin and Al played very well. Rob was fine, right at what you expect. Devonte has to calm down and learn that when going to the rim against a zone D you have to “jump-stop”! Hit 70% of your FT’s and have Josh play to what you expect and this is a 25-30 point W.

  • Outoftheloop

    Good idea.

  • Outoftheloop

    I will buy your season tickets to relieve your pain!

  • Outoftheloop

    Last time I checked you must be in the Sweet Sixteen to have a chance at the Final Four! Mike was a good, not great, coach. But he did coach at IU, and we do get to Final Four’s.

  • Outoftheloop

    Agreed.

  • Outoftheloop

    Are you describing Bobby Knight or Archie Miller? Oh, the A10 is much better than Army was!

  • Outoftheloop

    Yes we are an elite program, and yes we are lucky to have Archie!

  • Outoftheloop

    It is always WRONG to attack a wife or family member when you want to attack a Coach! You are a slime!

  • Outoftheloop

    5 minutes, 2 rebounds.

  • Outoftheloop

    Justin was very good at the FT line for attacking the zone, then cutting so DeRon could post in the paint.

  • inadvertentelbows_stillhurt

    You must not be abke to read very well… didnt say anything about anyones family.. hope you dont proof read for a living… you’re pretty dumb

  • inadvertentelbows_stillhurt

    Comparing Coach Ryan to 50yrs ago is a real stretch….. the game has changed dramatically

  • sam

    Ole Man, that under the bus comment was directed at you. As I said to another poster who responded to me on that subject on that comment. I know where you stand with the team… I apologies for including that comment in our conversation. It should have been said in a separate post. Go IU…not uk :)….

  • Ole Man

    Thanks for the clarification.
    So I’m not throwing anyone under the bus?