Crean: “I believe Troy’s going to be in that draft”

  • 05/09/2016 9:24 am in

Speaking to Indiana fans on Saturday night at the Wagon Wheel in Warsaw, Tom Crean said Saturday night that he expects Troy Williams to remain in the 2016 NBA draft.

“I believe Troy’s going to be in that draft,” Crean said, according to The Elkhart Truth. “I think he deserves to be in that draft. He’s done all that we’ve asked him to do. That’s his dream and he’s done a lot of good things for us, but at the same time, you’ve got to be able to move forward.”

Williams, who has not hired an agent, will participate in the NBA draft combine this week in Chicago and has until May 25 to withdraw his name if he wishes to return for his senior season.

The Hampton, Virginia native was not listed on an Indiana release issued over the weekend of student athletes who are eligible to graduate in either May or August.

Indiana has already moved forward, as Crean mentioned, by adding class of 2016 Neosho County Community College forward Freddie McSwain last month.

The 6-foot-7 Williams is projected by most as a second round pick after averaging 13.3 points and 5.8 rebounds as a junior last season.

An NBA scout told Inside the Hall in late March that with the graduation of Yogi Ferrell, Williams would be best served leaving school and entering the draft.

“With Yogi gone, that just means he’s going to be handling the ball more,” the scout said. “And I think the more he handles the ball, the worse he looks. If I’m him, Yogi’s gone, so I have to go.”

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  • E Foy McNaughton

    Maybe 100 people. I was surprised my son was the only teen ager/kid there.

  • Ole Man

    I don’t think McFly’s recruitment had anything to do with Troy.
    At that time, Troy hadn’t even been invited to the combine.
    However, that’s just my opinion. 🙂

  • Ole Man

    I wish I could still give down votes. I would give this one for every “paragraph”.

    If it’s hearsay, why did you bring it up? You essentially tried and convicted Troy.

    Lack of interest/effort on D? Perhaps through your anti-Troy glasses.

    WOW on the fade-away 3s five seconds into the shot clock. That statement removes any validity from your argument(s).

    “Get mine” mentality??????

    I honestly can’t find anything resembling an attempt to analyze Troy’s game in your post.
    This was pure “hang ’em high” hokum.
    And no, the nice things you said don’t excuse your “witch hunt.

    Normally, I enjoy your posts. Not when you do this type of nonsense.

  • Ole Man

    That’s what I read into it, BL.

  • John D Murphy

    TW can’t go left. I would be shocked if anyone used a guarantied pick on him.

  • Ole Man

    I don’t think that at all.
    McFly’s recruitment wasn’t dependent on Troy. No matter how people like to put the two together. McFly will never be able to replace Troy. Two different players entirely.
    Secondly, none of the incoming freshman would have challenged Troy.

  • BL

    Yeah, could be after all the discussion Coach simply knows that’s where Troy’s heart is and wants what’s best for him. If Troy goes I hope it’s on best of terms with Coach. Really want him to stay involved with the program like Cody, Vic, etc.

  • BL

    Agree with Ole Man. Can’t see Coach making commitments to recruits regarding things he can’t control. Kids will realize more minutes are available if Troy goes but they also came onboard knowing he might return.

  • BL

    I have no problem with 6’7 PG’s as long as they ultimately pass the test. If Coach is unwilling to experiment and allow kids that size to develop their ball handling and other PG skills, we’ll miss out on a bunch of big time recruits. Hell, just recently, Kris Wilkes commented positively on Alford’s plans to develop his guard skills if he goes to UCLA.

  • ForeverIU

    Time for 3.0, 2.0! Software getting buggy? LOL.

  • ForeverIU

    Troy has left us with several years of good karma. He will have a great future wherever he goes next.

  • Shaggy_C

    He may be a December graduate. They let you walk in the Spring as the winter ceremony has far less pomp and circumstance.

  • ForeverIU

    I think we will be better. Nothing against Troy. His and Yogi’s contributions will be more evenly distributed.

  • E Foy McNaughton

    There was no question in the tone that if TW stays in the draft he’s leaving on good terms. CTC will root “for his kids in the NBA” and he will root for TW to be a great one.

  • RDD#76

    Very true JM might have been out of necessity but JM looked not to bad plus it’s also part of JBJ game that needs improvement

  • E Foy McNaughton

    CTC says he graduates this summer.

  • E Foy McNaughton

    I agree that we will be better, but not because TW stays in the draft.

    It sounds like JN is a speedy competitive point. As sophomores, TB, OG and JM will be special. CH will be the glue senior leader. JBJ will put up mad offensive stats and won’t hurt IU as much as he has defensively. RJ will be RJ — and DD will make an immediate impact.

  • ForeverIU

    I hope so. I’m skeptical about JBJ, but don’t want to get anyone mad in an otherwise peaceful off-season, LOL.

  • Are you privy to what Crean has ‘conveyed’ to McFly and the other incoming freshman? Hmmmm you might think you know, but do you?

  • You do know that is only one guys opinion of an inference.. so I wouldn’t go off the deep end on it.. EFM really doesn’t know if Crean was inferring that or not.. He’s just writing something.. like throwing something up against the wall to see if it will stick? Unless Crean actually said that, it may be quite a stretch to ‘infer that is what he was inferring’…lol..

  • That is so cool that you were able to attend.. I would have loved to have tried to go. I hadn’t even heard that he was going to be in Warsaw.. which really isn’t that far from me.. probably an hour and a half.. Thanks for sharing this all with us.

  • What you say is interesting.. and actually I have had many of those same thoughts about Troy myself.. You wrapped it up very nicely though.. I really am between a ‘rock and a hard place’ as far as whether it’s best he stays or goes myself.

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    yeah, maybe you’re right. haha!

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    took you long enough ole man. usually you’re all over my TW rants before i even click the button!

    maybe i shouldn’t have brought up the LF thing, but is it that big of a stretch to believe? it would be different if i said i heard some of the players like to dress in drag and use the women’s restroom (to be perfectly clear i haven’t!).

    you say i tried and convicted him, but the fact is he and SR were suspended for failed drug tests. DD and HMP were dismissed for a weed-related incident. so if that were my intent, someone beat me to the punch.

    as far as my observations on his performance, i just call em like i see em. people can cite stats all they want, but it doesn’t tell the entire story. it’s easy, for example, to pad your numbers against weaker opponents or in garbage time.

  • HoosierStuckInKY

    What are you talking about? Going off the deep end? I wouldn’t do that either lol even though I do consider myself a decent swimmer. I just think that, one way or another, room would be made on the team if Troy were to continue his college career. And if any coach, CTC included, didn’t let that potential NBA talent to continue playing, well, that just wouldn’t be a nice thing to do just because the player wanted feedback from NBA scouts.

  • I just mean.. He is only ‘inferring’ that.. to me you we’re making it sound ‘rock solid’ that’s what Crean is up to.. and that I would be, I assume you mean cruel, not ‘crude’ as you’ve written.. to cut a players legs out from under him. I understand what you meant, but I for one, don’t think that was what Crean was inferring..

  • HoosierStuckInKY

    Crude/cruel…similar meanings. I don’t claim to be a wordsmith. I don’t claim to know anything. I’m just a man with that loves IU basketball giving my opinion. In a forum. On the internet. Please don’t beat me up mister.

  • Fivelefts

    Well it doesn’t take much to deduce from the interviews I’ve read about McSwain, coupled with, what CTC has said in his interviews concerning TW.. That McFly didn’t choose IU, to play behind TW. You are correct.. I don’t have privy.. But I do have insight, and common sense! ijs

  • IUchrome

    I’ll tend to agree with you knight. My two cents is he is a good college player, unfortunately I don’t see it translating to the NBA. He is at best an average defender when focused, has an average jumper and a VERY loose handle. None of those play well at the next level. It sounds harsh, and honestly I feel bad because I like Troy and he seems like a great kid. However, I think the team will be better without him.

  • If you don’t want to be challenge on your comment, you should be a whole bunch more judicious in making them…

  • Ole Man

    Well, you two are in the minority.
    Nothing wrong with that.
    However, it demonstrates, an unsupportable opinion, in my opinion.
    Nothing to even hint at your opinions being valid.
    No tangibles nor any intangibles would support your erstwhile claims.

  • Well when you say, “That Crean has conveyed to some of the recruits”.. it is not just making sense, it is putting words into Crean’s mouth that may or may not be there. You didn’t say,,’What crean may have conveyed to these guys.. You said what he HAS conveyed to these guys… When in fact you have no idea what Crean has conveyed to these guys. That’s taking quite a bit of literary license… IJS

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  • Chappy Dan

    Crude is the better descriptor here. Sorry your vocabulary doesn’t extend that far.

  • Really? I thought you actually had made a mistake.. but I guess if you want to start the personal attacks, so be it.. Sorry, you know nothing but insolence.

  • His problem with his handles did not only manifest itself when he was handling the PG duties. it happened when he tried to make a play (for himself) when it wasn’t there. But you can try to hang it on Crean if you so choose. What did you think of the times JM was playing the point? I thought he handles it very well… I guess as a coach you’re thinking you don’t want try to stretch a guys capabilities, if he shows some aptitude for a certain position.. You just place a cookie cutter around them and let them stagnate at that. Again, Troy lost the ball because he was out of control no matter where he was playing at the time.. point guard or not… Not because Crean gave him a chance to play the point at certain times during games.. But go ahead, it HAD to be a problem with Crean’s coaching.

  • IUJeff

    I am just saying it has not yet worked. JH at PG was a large fail. So was TW. but I agree it is good to see what your guys can do. I poke a bit of fun at CTC on this topic and say he is still having nightmares about MCW in the cuse loss, and that he is looking to create our own MCW PG.

  • Well when you go back and read your own comment, you pin Troy’s bad handles to Crean’s PG experiment and calling it a ‘large fail’ from this past season.. When in fact JM spent soe time at that position and that could be considered a success. Bringing JH into the discussion. well that’s a whole different story. JH had a whole bunch more problems that Crean trying to find a niche for hi where he just might produce.. You’re calling TW’s bad handles ‘because’ of Crean’s PG experiment a ‘large fail’ from last year.. I just think your conclusions are not very logical.. As I pointed out his ‘handle issues’ were not only experienced when he was playing PG. They happened every time he handled the ball and tried to do too much with it. And to conclude that it resulted in a ‘large fail’ well I think that is being just a little mellow dramatic.