Indiana to picked to finish 8th in Big Ten by Athlon Sports

  • 09/09/2014 8:58 am in

We’ve already shared some preseason predictions from the Sporting News college basketball yearbook and Lindy’s Sports, but a third publication, the Athlon Sports 2014-2015 preview magazine, is still to hit newsstands.

While the magazine won’t hit newsstands until later in the month, Indiana is picked to finish eighth in the conference.

Athlon picked the top seven Big Ten teams to make the NCAA tournament and has the Hoosiers headed to the NIT.

Junior point guard Yogi Ferrell is featured on a regional cover for the magazine along with Butler’s Kellen Dunham and Purdue’s A.J. Hammons.

Some more Big Ten and IU-centric notes from the magazine after the jump.

· Ferrell is first team preseason All-Big Ten.

· Ferrell is also on Athlon’s second team “All-Juniors” and is mentioned as the sixth best “floor leader” in the country.

· Indiana’s incoming recruiting class is ranked third in the conference.

· Five Big Ten teams are in the preseason top 25: Wisconsin (2), Nebraska (11), Michigan State (14), Ohio State (20) and Michigan (23).

·  The complete predicted Big Ten order of finish: Wisconsin, Nebraska, Michigan State, Ohio State, Michigan, Illinois, Iowa, Indiana, Minnesota, Maryland, Penn State, Purdue, Northwestern and Rutgers.

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  • Zach

    These preseason rankings are definitely intriguing, but don’t mean a lot obviously. Hopefully the players take these lower expectations and use is as fuel and motivation to prove these “experts” wrong. Personally I expect a much improved, more fundamentally sound team. I think a reasonable outcome for the season would be a trip to the dance and a 5th to 7th place finish in the B1G

  • ForeverIU

    I can’t imagine it happening, but if I have to give you an answer … heartbreak.

  • ForeverIU

    Now we’re talking!

  • ForeverIU

    Coming from Ole Man, it’s a nod of approval, LOL!

  • VAHoosier

    I think we make the NCAA, but no way the B1G gets 8 bids. 7 possibly. I think we can finish 6th, or maybe 5th, but as others have pointed out, the difference between 2 thru 8 or 9 in the B1G is not a lot. I am a pessimist by nature, but I feel good about this team. I think we will surprise the national media. We have playmakers and shooters. As long as we can hold our own on defense (in this regard we need TW to be greatly improved), we will be a tough team.

    I don’t think missing the tournament would result in any changes. Sure, all of us would be outraged and would spend the entire off season screaming and yelling, but in terms of the school making any changes… not likely. CTC is pretty entrenched right now, and it would take at least 3 straight down years for the school to even start sniffing around for a replacement. And that is probably as it should be.

  • ForeverIU

    A 5th place finish give (not take) a spot (up not down) would not devastate me, lol.

  • John Boyd

    Don’t ask me why, but I just have a feeling this team will finish in the top 3 of the B1G, and have a decent run in the Dance. I know there’s a lack of inside talent, but I think our frontcourt-by-committee should be able to hold down the fort while our backcourt will end up being one of the best in the country, if not the best.

  • Outoftheloop

    James, Troy and Yogi will each make All-B1G 1st, 2nd or 3rd teams. Hanner will be the most improved player in the B1G and Stan will be the 6th man. IU will struggle, great today good tomorrow, bad the next day. But 2/3 is pretty good and IU will place 3rd in the regular season, and then lose its 1st game in the B1G Tourney, as always!

  • Outoftheloop

    IU’s 2014 recruits are #17 in the US, and 3rd only to OH St and MD in the B1G! So you were wrong and your “journalist” was wrong!

  • Outoftheloop

    I don’t know if it is really “over-achieving” to beat your expectations, or the expectations of these publications. “It’s Indiana”!

  • Outoftheloop

    You are right. Reduce the TO’s! Then just take the walk-ons plus Austin and Jeremy off of the floor; give the minutes to Hanner, Devin and Stan; and get Will to hit 37% of his 3’s, and we could have been pretty good.

  • Outoftheloop

    Collin, Devin, Stan, Troy, Yogi and Hanner, that makes 6 out of 13 scholarship players. That leaves only 7 new: 6 freshmen plus Nick. Walk-ons don’t count!

  • IUfanPurduePhD

    If you can’t imagine an IU team with two McDonald’s All Americans finishing outside of the top four teams in the B1G, then you have one of the world’s shortest memories. 🙂

  • Outoftheloop

    I, for one, will be VERY disappointed!! And the realtors will be talking to Coach Crean.

  • Outoftheloop

    Or lose 1-2 at home and try to avoid 8-9-10th place. It could go either way, for every team not named “Whisky” or the 4 dwarfs.

  • Outoftheloop

    See my answer above: 1) VERY disappointed, 2) realtors talking to Coach Crean about listing his home!

  • Ole Man

    Oh, BS! They’re on the roster. They count; even if they only play scrap minutes. They count when they get practiced against. How many times do you hear “they’ll be great to have for practice.” They count. They’re part of team chemistry. They count. They letter. They count. They’re in the team photo. They count.

  • Outoftheloop

    No! 7 years is a real opportunity! It is a tough business. A 3rd Sweet Sixteen in 7 years from where Crean started is “life-time contract” territory. But 5 “bad” seasons out of 7 is let’s move on (that young Dayton Ohio Coach looks interesting).

  • Outoftheloop

    Make the Tourney and WIN 2 games = Sweet Sixteen! That is great! Who cares about the seed (IU almost lost to Temple)?

  • Outoftheloop

    I am with Coach Knight on that “Tourney”: “who cares”?

  • ForeverIU

    Imagining is not the same as recall, lol.

  • Outoftheloop

    Not if your “expectation” is 14th!

  • b_side

    Ha, we just won the outright B1G title in 2012-2013, in a year when the conference was at its peak according to Kenpom. Would love to know what exactly Illinois has accomplished since Crean came aboard. As long as CTC keeps putting players in the league, recruits will follow. We had one down year and it happened to be the most recent season. Sounds more like a case of short term memory issues.

  • Outoftheloop

    IU has to do what it must do to reach a Sweet Sixteen!

  • Gregory Spera

    Yeah, I don’t care either. So what if we tanked 16 years in a row. “We’re Indiana.”

  • IUfanPurduePhD

    And not being able to imagine something suggests a scenario that is so far fetched that it is not only improbable but impossible… when, in fact, recall of last year’s season doesn’t even take creativity to be able to imagine the same thing happening this year. I believe in your creative powers, ForeverIU. 🙂

  • ForeverIU

    Ole Man I thought you’d enjoy the photo of Nate Ritchie and our five banners, circulating on twitter and now my new avatar, lol.

  • ForeverIU

    Folks, introducing my new avatar: Nate Ritchie at the IU Temple of Five Banners. Check it out on Instagram and Twitter.

  • VAHoosier

    Sure, I get that perspective. I guess I would make two observations:

    1) Fans in general (both pro and ncaa, in virtually every sport) have become too insistent on instant gratification, the “what have you done for me lately” mentality. So, as a general principle, I’m a bit resistant to that.

    2) You concede that CTC started in a tough place, but you count those early seasons against him nevertheless? Look, I’ve been pretty critical of his coaching and have pulled out the better part of my hair because of him, but if we’re going to give him credit–and talk about a “lifetime contract”, no less–because he helped bring us from college basketball purgatory, then we can’t count those early purgatory seasons against him when we talley his record.

    Plus, you seem to imply that a 3rd sweet sixteen would solidify his place, but a down your and he should be gone. That’s a pretty broad range of consequences for a fairly narrow set of outcomes.

    I’m ambivalent about CTC. I want to like him, think he is probably a good man, all that, yet his style of play is antithetical to how I think basketball ought to be played. And it hasn’t yet really produced any results.

  • My prediction: I haven’t bought a lindys, sporting news, or Athlon since 1998 and I predict I’ll never buy another one again.

  • MillaRed

    But Loop if you are a bubble team that tourney could be your only ticket to the dance. Therefore it does matter.

  • papawglen

    How do you know there is a lack of inside talent? I think people should wait and be sure before always complaining about the bigs.

  • WhatsUpKnight

    totally agree, couldn’t have said it better myself

  • mark

    Nebraska? NEBRASKA?
    The B10 looks very weak this year to me, excepting Wisconsin, which has a shot at going undefeated in the league and maybe even overall. But I wonder what happens if they go up against Kentucky,which might be one of the all-time great teams . Sorry, I hate to say that on here, but just look at their roster.

  • ForeverIU

    But my ITH friend I speak here of imagining not as the science of logical enumeration (of possible or probable worlds) but rather the art (even the sacral gift) of manifesting the very best of our desires. Now try arguing with a man who has consumed his second glass of The Famous Grouse.

  • IUfanPurduePhD

    But what if I changed the lyrics of that incredibly overplayed John Lennon song to include verses about IU missing the tournament? 😉

  • ForeverIU

    IUfan please overcome the PurduePhD in you and step down into the realms of the amnesiac masses. The tragedy of being so erudite is that nothing is new or pleasurable any more, and we end up recycling old nightmares, lol.

  • INUnivHoosier

    Yoko would be upset.

  • ForeverIU

    Then “over-achieve” we will.

  • ForeverIU

    But isn’t it interesting that last year we made 7-8 less points per game than the previous two years. Better shooting alone, all other things being equal, will take us a long way, let alone if we limit turnovers and/or force more of them from opposing teams.

  • John Boyd

    I guess I meant no proven talent. I am hopeful Hanner and Devin make leaps, and it would be nice if Holt contributed immediately.

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  • Blair McKee

    Pre-season polls and rankings are based on an assessment of talent. Coaching is what makes the talent go farther than the predictions. Some nights a talented team will win purely on talent. But when two talented teams play each other, which is almost every night in the Big Ten, then it comes down to coaching, with a little crowd and a little luck. IU has had the crowd and the talent, and at least against UK, a little luck! But coaching they have not had. If CTC has not re-loaded enough talent to just out play the other teams as he did with CZ, VO, CW, JH, YF, then he h won’t outcoach anybody, and it’ll be 8th or worse.

  • inadvertentelbows_stillhurt

    IU 1-3 VS Nebraska last 3 seasons…smh

  • 9559

    I’m sorry can’t hold back anymore, top five!! They have teams in front of IU that I don’t believe will be there… GO IU

  • Mr. Mitchell

    Given the various expectation for this team. It must be coached by Tom Crean