2014 F Max Hoetzel gets Indiana offer, will visit this weekend

  • 10/24/2013 2:40 pm in


Since transferring to Wilbraham and Monson (Mass.) Academy from Calabasas (Calif.) High School this past summer, Max Hoetzel has seen his recruitment take off.

Well, it’s reached another level.

Indiana has offered the 6-foot-7 forward as part of its 2014 class, only weeks after discovering him while recruiting his WMA teammate, Goodluck Okonoboh. The offer also comes just after Indiana coach Tom Crean and assistant Kenny Johnson visited Hoetzel in Massachusetts this past Tuesday evening.

On Saturday, Hoetzel, along with his parents who will fly in from California, will make the trip to Bloomington for an official visit that will last through Monday.

“I would really, really consider it, especially since it’s Indiana,” Hoetzel told Inside the Hall on Oct. 14. “The past, the program, the coaching, I’d definitely really consider it.

“But it’s all about the fit. I want to come in somewhere where I can really play and exploit my strengths. If that does happen with IU, it will be wonderful.”

In recent weeks, Hoetzel has also been offered by St. John’s, Pennsylvania and Rhode Island and has received additional interest from Florida, Harvard, Iowa State and Kansas.

The three-star prospect reclassified to 2015 when he transferred to WMA, though he can still graduate this spring in time to join Indiana’s 2014 recruiting class.

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  • MillaRed

    At this point I would be elated with a George Leach.

  • Outoftheloop

    I think (maybe hope) that this is the season that Coach Cal’s pyramid scheme starts to tumble down. If he wins the NCAA then he wins the game. But anything short of the trophy is a BUST season for him (there is no glory in a Final Four because his “semi-pros” don’t build for the next season, they grab 5 more top 20 recruits for the next run). This year’s freshmen are great: # 2, 5, 7, 9, 11, and 19. But what was Derek Willis, # 115, thinking when he agreed to go to KY? He will never play meaningful minutes, he will never be drafted for the NBA. KY also still has Cauley-Stein, # 40, one year ago, Alex Poythress, # 8, one year ago, and Jon Hood, # 40, 4 years ago (and they “ran-off” Kyle Wiltjer, # 22, two years ago in the process!). Yes KY is the highest profile college hoops team. Yes they finally won one Championship. Yes they have sent many players to “the league”. But they have not “developed” ANY player for “the league”. They have also squandered the talents of more than a few top # 50 kids in the process. Remember Stacey Poole, # 32, three years ago? I thought not. What kid with a brain would trade Christian Watford’s great career at IU, #41, four years ago, for that of Jon Hood sitting the bench for five years at KY, #40, four years ago? Good Indiana kids like Lyle, # 22, and Blackmon, #23, need to smell the coffee, and think twice before choosing KY over IU. They need to remember the tale of # 144, Victor Oladipo at IU, and # 21, Doran Lamb at KY! Oladipo went to IU, was the # 2 pick in the NBA draft, is “the talk of the town” and the “face of the franchise” in Orlando (and the NBA) making millions more than Lamb, who won a Championship at KY is now a marginal player on Oladipo’s team. More than three “NBA caliber” players in any single recruiting class just does not work (for the other kids in that class): I remember Webber, Rose, and Howard, but King is just a name, not a player, and the other guy is not even a name. So which three top 20 recruits in this year’s KY class will never “develop”? I don’t know, but the odds that three will be very disappointed in their “college” careers at KY is strong. Remember that on KY’s Championship team (which only went 7 deep) only three freshmen made it big to the NBA: Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist, and Teague (#’s 2, 3, and 5), Green, Lamb (Sophomores) and Miller (Senior) are all marginal NBA players while Wiltjer had to transfer out of KY to get playing time (exposure for a possible pro career). Coach Cal does not play 10 (his pattern is 7-8); he does not reward “experience” in his program (only freshmen and sophomores get showcased); and at some point the “sanctions” will come (Memphis and U Mass). Buyer beware!

  • NotTheRealSteveEyl

    JBJ ate an entire wheel of cheese. I wasn’t even mad. It was amazing.

  • Oldguyy

    Yeah, too bad IU can’t lose to Robert Morris in the first game of the NIT.

  • Oldguyy

    His point is that you may believe that, but you have no way of knowing whether it’s true in all cases.

  • Outoftheloop

    I love IU Basketball too, but your comment (“the greatest basketball program of all time”) makes me “blush” (crimson, of course)! We do trail UCLA (11) and KY (8), and are tied with UNC (5), with Duke at (4) and Louisville and Kansas at (3) not that far behind.

  • Outoftheloop

    Crean plays 10 plus, so they will be a lot happier than the KY kids!

  • Outoftheloop

    How quickly we forget! Sheehey was # 141, and Oladipo was # 144. They were great undervalued “finds” by Coach Crean. For 2014 Johnson is # 42 (that is just behind Watford, # 41, and ahead of Creek # 56, Elston # 103, Hulls, # 107, and Bawa # 112 in Crean’s first really good recruiting class) (last year’s Seniors)! If IU adds one or more #20 something recruits for 2014 (Robinson #20, Lyle # 22 or Blackmon # 23), and this very interesting emerging player, Hoetzel, then 2014 will be the third straight great recruiting class in a row and the sixth straight really good class in a row by Coach Crean! In fact a good argument can be made that the “greatest recruiting class” in Crean’s history at IU was landing Cody Zeller!

  • Outoftheloop

    All you need is ONE each year!!

  • The_Bob_Michaels

    Terry took over for Decker at Scout. I wish him the best, but too many jerks have taken up residence there for me.

  • Outoftheloop

    Even better! The legend of “Player Development” at Indiana under Coach Crean GROWS (#247 to the NBA!)!

  • The_Bob_Michaels

    Reliable shooters are always welcome. In my world, we’d have at least one on the roster and limit our “project” players to no more than one.

  • Outoftheloop

    That is a really foolish assertion (“There aren’t any more VO players out there”), and one that we all know is false (just like “there aren’t any more Magic Johnson’s out there”…LeBron; “there aren’t any more Larry Bird’s out there”… Dirk Nowitzky; etc.) . It is a really big basketball playing world out there! The key is which kid has that combination of athletic ability, team first personality, drive, commitment, luck with no injuries, etc. Rest assured he or she IS out there!

  • Dee McDonald

    Name one guy that was that low out of high school recruitment circles that went top 3? That’s all I’m saying. I doesn’t happen and hasn’t happened…

  • Dee McDonald

    I’m not saying anything bad about CTC, I believe 100% in what he’s doing. His player development is up there with anybody. that wasn’t the point at all to what I said. I’m just saying he was a once a generation player that it happened to.

  • Dee McDonald

    Coach Crean had also said it himself. “There will never be another Victor Oladipo.” His words not mine on that one. It was in one of his speeches this summer that he literally said that.

  • Outoftheloop

    I think that you got it all! The difference is that everyone: recruits, “handlers”, parents, fans, program friends, program enemies, coaches, etc. are following recruiting more, because we can! (and it is safe, i.e. it can be done remotely and anonymously; can you imagine asking and or criticizing Coach Knight directly “why don’t you recruit X, why did you recruit Y”, there would have been real blood-yours-on the ground!)

  • PDXHoosier

    Pretty amazing, considering we haven’t won one in 25 years.

  • CreanFaithful

    He also repeatedly says that he doesn’t like to compare past, present and future players. They are all unique individuals. So yes, outside someone naming their first born after him, there will never be another Victor Oladipo 🙂

  • Chandler

    This kid is not ranked higher because we only played one AAU season due to an injury. Just google his name its all there and he made the German U-18 National Team. I think Crean knows exactly what he is doing. Hoetzel is a total find from under the radar.

  • steve

    Dont we already have hartman and austin e are suppose to be just like this guy?

  • Andrew Walker

    Ha!!! I thought about leaving that post this morning.

  • CreanFaithful

    We do have players named Hartman and Etherington… who said they are supposed to be “just like this guy?”

  • Ole Man

    Agree, 100%.
    Besides, if I were a recruit and saw it, I might use it as incentive as in “I’ll go there and show them!”

  • MillaRed

    Zero %

  • MillaRed

    “It has real bits of panther, so you know it’s good.”

  • TomJameson

    Thing is that now, more than ever, the kids coming up are seeing how the hard work is really paying off. And, we seem to be instituting that work environment/culture at IU. Victor may be the best example for now, but others are really picking up that work ethic. That can only lead to more chances of have a vastly improved player making a noise in the draft, Oladipo-style. I can really can see that improvement happening right now at IU. Hopefully we’ll have more proof of that this year, and for years to come. Look at it this way, as good as Vonley is, and as good as his work ethic is, can you imagine how good he’ll be if he stays for two years… or even three (pipedream, I know) lol

  • mjrhoosier

    I know how u feel!

  • r

    You missed this tie in: …while waiting to see if another fast rising forward, who happens to be best friends with the fast rising guard who recently committed, commits…”.

  • Dee McDonald

    And that is the situation we want to get into…developing McDonald’s All-Americans with that Oladipo method. I know that the best teams have a combination of stars, but it’s not possible to do that without missing every now and then. I just hate it when we miss.

  • PacerFan

    I personally don’t want any players at IU who also consider Kentucky. UK is nothing more than an NBA prep school that really doesn’t care about academics or true player development…that’s all it will be as long as Cal is there!

  • BC

    You do know that trolls are on here as well. Any recruit reading this needs to keep in mind that
    A) The guy may just be one crazy fan
    B) The guy might not even be a fan of this school at all but another school that is trying to get him.

    have to take everything with a grain of salt.especially these message boards.

  • dingo

    I really get annoyed with the drama queens that post on this site. DROB is going to be in candy stripes. not sure where you people got any other ideas from…

    I mean he had an absolute BLAST at hoosier hysteria and barely posted anything on his twitter account about his visits to nd, oklahoma st., and florida.

    all of you need to pull your panties up and quit sweating this.

  • Concerned

    A few months removed from two top 5 NBA draft picks and we are competing with Loyola Marymount and Pacific for no-name recruits. What in the world is going on?

  • Concerned

    Yes, because schools like Loyola Marymount and Pacific have droves of basketball fans that troll our site to prevent us from stealing their recruits…

  • TomJameson

    I’ll agree with that, for sure. Oladipo really is a very special player, the kind that don’t come around often. But I’m hoping that with the way Crean can identify, and develop, the talented player with that much upside, combined with the work ethic culture that IU seems to encourage, that maybe we will see some more kids develop like that. Not exactly like Oladipo because he is special, but you might say Oladipo-light. lol

  • TomJameson

    I think it’s a matter of degree. Not many things are so clearly delineated that anybody can say 100% (or zero%) for anything. I know it’s all opinions, and I assure you I respect everybody’s opinions even if I don’t agree, but I think if there was a lot of hate on these boards and a top-50 recruit saw that, they would more likely say ‘f*** them”, and go to one of those other top college programs that are recruiting them as well. Just think it would depend on a lot of factors, the kid, the comments, the kids other choices, etc…

  • TomJameson

    lol … I love sarcasm!


    If it didn’t look like that before it sure did after DR setting his announcement date and the scholly offer to MH happened awfully close together. Hope I’m wrong.

  • Alan H

    LOL, I knew I was forgetting something. I did forget, the waiting for a decision from the star foreign guard who is projected as a top 4 NBA draft pick.

  • Alan H

    Granted,, the back to back top 4 recruiting classes are certainly being used against us by other coaches. Louisville seems to be having the same problem. UK and UNC were bad last year and thus recruits see that PT is available. Still, if our kids here develop quickly, they could be two and done. Maybe it’s for the best that we have good kids willing to play for 4 years.

  • tompositano

    Uhmmmm…. I’m as big a homer as anyone, but no way IU is greatest program of all time. UCLA, KY, UNC… Duke, Kansas also ahead. Would probably have to put us with Louisville now, given there more recent success.

  • SilverAtlanta

    This guy has a sweet jumper, good length and brains, he has just now started to garner attention from the larger schools. Sleeper potential!

  • USMC_Hoosier

    Any word on how Hoetzel’s visit went?

  • notfargj

    a taller nik stauskas? this kid can really shoot the ball.