The Minute After: Wisconsin

  • 03/09/2012 5:12 pm in

Thoughts on a 79-71 loss to the Badgers:

That was a tough, frustrating one.

Time and again in the second half, Indiana seemed on the verge of overtaking the Badgers — getting it to within a one-point deficit on three separate occasions — and well, it just didn’t happen. Stops needed to be made. And Indiana just couldn’t do it.

The Hoosiers were within 42-41 with 15:40 to go after Victor Oladipo split a pair of free throws. As the Hoosiers retained possession, Christian Watford turned the ball over. Rob Wilson — more on him later — hit a three. But Indiana was right there again rather soon. Back-to-back Jordan Hulls jumpers made it 48-47 with 13:04 left. Wilson hit a another three. Wisconsin advanced the lead to nine. But Indiana began to chip away. Hulls again was the man, connecting on a shot with a shooter’s bounce to pull Indiana within one at 63-62 with 3:47 to go. It was there to be had. But Wisconsin didn’t even need a possession to get points; a Cody Zeller foul of  Jared Berggren under the basket on Hulls’ make allowed him to get to the line and hit two free throws. That was as close as Indiana would get the rest of the way.

Because then there was this: Wilson made a layup, assisted to Berggren on a dunk during that play where Zeller got crossed up on the flare screen, made another 3-pointer and a free throw during the final 3:47. He also grabbed an offensive board during a 1-and-1 situation where the Hoosiers were caught napping. Dude was just absolutely everywhere today. His seven 3-pointers were a Wisconsin record. After only scoring in double figures once this year — 11 in a loss at Iowa — and just 36 points his entire junior season he dropped 30 on the Hoosiers this afternoon. And Wilson wasn’t the only one hitting from beyond the arc for the Badgers. The team finished 13-of-26 (50%). That’s 39 points and just about half its scoring.

Indiana didn’t play a bad game here, really. The Hoosiers shot well enough (52.0 eFG%) and got to the line and connected (18-of-22 for 81.8%, 43.1 FTR). They scored more in the paint (24-18) and with second-chance opportunities (11-8). Watford continues to play like a man on fire, achieving another double-double (17 points, 10 boards). Hulls was again difficult to contain (17 points on 7-of-10 shooting). But playing from behind against a Wisconsin team shooting the ball well is a tall task, as the Hoosiers found out today.

But alas, this is not the end of the road. A No. 3 seed may now be out of sight. But come Selection Sunday in just two days, the Hoosiers are likely to be awarded a No. 4 or No. 5 seed in the NCAA Tournament.

They’ll get time to regroup and repair.

Fret not: There’s more to come.

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  • NotTheRealSteveEyl

    Amen to that.  Who are these people?

  • calbert40

     He had some open looks, but he hit quite a few shots with hands in his face.  Sometimes a guy is just too hot to deny.  Let’s try not to blame coach for it!

  • The Cat

    Well we got Wilsoned today.  Hopefully the extra rest is to our benefit.  Now we need a favorable seeding.

    My main question today was why CTC did not put Watford and Vic in at the last TV timeout.  Then when he wanted to get them in, why he didn’t call a timeout to do so.  Also in my personal opinion, if you are not going to guard Roth I want him in there, however against Wisconsin, Bo will make it a priority that he is never open and thus of little help.

  • The Cat

    Well we got Wilsoned today.  Hopefully the extra rest is to our benefit.  Now we need a favorable seeding.

    My main question today was why CTC did not put Watford and Vic in at the last TV timeout.  Then when he wanted to get them in, why he didn’t call a timeout to do so.  Also in my personal opinion, if you are not going to guard Roth I want him in there, however against Wisconsin, Bo will make it a priority that he is never open and thus of little help.

  • calbert40

     I wish I could hit the LIKE button a dozen times!  Well said!

  • calbert40

     WOW!  Lots of people standing on ledges around here today!  Step away!  Step away!

  • calbert40

     That would be interesting!

  • Daburns0

    I wouldn’t say nothing, but it wasn’t the only thing. Jordan Taylor is a hack. Palms the ball all game and travels more than my grandparents.

  • CH

    IU down 4 roughly 1 min. left CTC takes out Zeller and Olidipo for Roth and Pritch to get a stop on D. Explain that move. Wasnt just me the whole section around me was screaming the same thing. Ryans game plan took away our Threes. We counter with Jordy driving to the basket? Im sure Wilson getting good looks was part of Ryans gameplan also. He knew we would help on Taylor and their big guy. The good part was the guys effort was still good enough to overcome the coaching mistakes if we hit a few layups.

  • CH

    IU down 4 roughly 1 min. left CTC takes out Zeller and Olidipo for Roth and Pritch to get a stop on D. Explain that move. Wasnt just me the whole section around me was screaming the same thing. Ryans game plan took away our Threes. We counter with Jordy driving to the basket? Im sure Wilson getting good looks was part of Ryans gameplan also. He knew we would help on Taylor and their big guy. The good part was the guys effort was still good enough to overcome the coaching mistakes if we hit a few layups.

  • Waffle

    Horrible job by refs. I thought it was a joke. But still, we have a low chance of winning this game. Maybe a easy chance with Verdell.

  • CH

    Watch a replay of the game.  Ryan has Bergerren in against CZ at all times. CZ goes out Bergerren goes out. CZ gets one rebound. At the end CTC has our subs (Roth and Pritch) playing D when we gotta get a stop against Wiskys starters. Wisky gets a easy look at a 3 and game over. Last time I checked VO was all B1G defense 1st team. You gotta watch the game within the game.

  • Oladipo was killing us in this game other than rebounding.  He couldn’t hit a layup to save his life and was just out of control. Crean should have had him riding the pine from about half way through the first half. Also why is it Zeller can’t rebound? He needs to get a little more physical, which I think will happen in time, if we are gonna go very far in the Dance. Still though we would have won this game had Wilson not played the best game of his career and that shows how tough we are when even with the mistakes we still almost win. Let’s put our dancing shoes on boys and get ready and we will see Sunday night where we will start our journey at.

  • CH

    Agree with your comments about the zone. It looks terrible against well coached and disciplined teams like Wisky.

  • Ghost_of_Billy_Mays

    I agree. I just watched the game again. IU played pretty well…Did they have some bad turnovers and spotty defense on Wilson? Of course, but they attacked on offense. This team will be a tough out in the tournament because of the matchup problems they present.

    Give Wisconsin credit, whenever IU got close they made BIG shots to extend the lead. IU never could get over that hump and take the lead. I thought the biggest opportunity to take the lead and momentum was when Oladipo got the flagrant foul. He hit 1-2 at the line and then IU had two straight turnovers that led to threes. Yea, bad defense at times, but like you said, Wisconsin is 35% 3-point shooting team during the year. They hit the shots today, give them credit.

    Now, they get a week off to rest and get better. Let’s see who they play and the matchups in their bracket. I can’t wait!!

  • CH

    The officiating was horrible. They even made a couple of bad calls on Wisky to try to make up for the 15 bad or missed calls they made on our end.

  • CH

    The officiating was horrible. They even made a couple of bad calls on Wisky to try to make up for the 15 bad or missed calls they made on our end.

  • Nc Hoosier

    You’ve got to be joking man..

  • Jszook61

    I expect IU to win their first game in the NCAA tourney and then get knock out in the second round.  Yogi Ferrell and Co. can’t get to Bloomington soon enough.  This years team is just to soft to go very far in the tournament.

  • Derbus

    best candy-stripes EVER!!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HGm_jxOdts

  • Geoff_85

    You need to learn from every game – win or loss – that’s how you improve. It’s not about learning a lesson, it’s about being a better team moving forward and into the tournament that really matters, and I guarantee you this game didn’t change IU’s seeding. They are as solid as any of the projected 4 seeds and it would have taken more than just this game to move up to a 3. Speculation on the exact seed, but losing this game didn’t hurt seeding.

  • Geoff_85

    I like the prospect of being refreshed, but when IU has a ton of rest it seems like they don’t play particularly well (like the Northwestern game). That may just be me being a little pessimistic, but I do think that this team needs some rest – namely Sheehey.

  • Geoff_85

    I like the prospect of being refreshed, but when IU has a ton of rest it seems like they don’t play particularly well (like the Northwestern game). That may just be me being a little pessimistic, but I do think that this team needs some rest – namely Sheehey.

  • Geoff_85

    Oladipo could have changed the outcome of this game had he put the ball in the hoop. He struggled mightily on the offensive end in this one. Having said, we have to be pumped about the effort Christian Watford has been bringing and the results (2 double-doubles in 2 games). If he can maintain that effort, IU is in very good shape.

  • IUeconAlum

    We got owned. Wisconsin kept setting screens and IU kept switching. The problem was we would switch onto somebody and ended up creating a mismatch alot of the time. They saw this and took advantage of it. I love Christian Watford, but anybody that watches the game tape knows he is slow on D and you will likely be able to exploit that. We can’t have five Victor Oladipo’s out there, but Crean needs to figure out how to manage our D or we wont even make it to the sweet 16. We can shoot all day long, but if we can’t defend consistently and adapt correctly, this season will be over too soon.

  • IUJeff

    Right. We are not very fleet of foot. Been that way all year. And it is not just CWat. 

    Wisconsin won because they played better perimeter D than we did. They were quicker and gave us no space. Plain and simple. The13 threes was a result of this. The lack of quickness issue will not start to be corrected until next year. Some addition by subtraction. Some by purely addition and players working hard in the off season.   Wisconsin was the smarter team also. Their up fakes and pass fakes hurt us as well. They were overall the more athletic team.

  • IUJeff

    We are slow getting to the perimeter to shooter is why. We added one impact player from the 12 – 18 team last year. 24 and 8 is an awesome turnaround.

    We are a 4 seed but are not as deep as we were with VJ.  

  • IUJeff

    Yes they do. The negative people that thrive on adversity and failures. Sad but it’s a yin yang type thing. Half of folks are glass half-empty, half are more positive than negative. 

    And then there are just some really dumb people on top of being negative.

    Wisconsin guarded the perimeter better than us and shot lights out in critical times. That is it.  

  • iufan4life10

     I meant to point this out before the game, but I remember it quite well from the first meeting earlier in the season.  Wisky does an extremely good job at grabbing jersey or an arm or whatever they can get a hold on when the opponents are cutting or coming around screens.  We have to do a better job of either fighting through it or “acting” as Mr. Taylor does so well.  That is their style of play and when it isn’t being called it is an effective way to slow down the defender. 

  • iufan4life10

     I meant to point this out before the game, but I remember it quite well from the first meeting earlier in the season.  Wisky does an extremely good job at grabbing jersey or an arm or whatever they can get a hold on when the opponents are cutting or coming around screens.  We have to do a better job of either fighting through it or “acting” as Mr. Taylor does so well.  That is their style of play and when it isn’t being called it is an effective way to slow down the defender. 

  • Barry – I agree.  CW, Hulls, CZ, VO and Sheehey need to rest a few days.  Getting 4 games in 4 days will wear a team down and can only increase the number of  injuries.  What really matter is the tourney.  The key is to have those players healthy.  CTC will be able to give them a few days rest, they can refocus, and then compete.  I agree with the RMK sentiment.  RMK can be criticized but he was a winner all the way.  The focus should be to get to the sweet 16.  Once there this team can beat anyone on a given day – and I can show you our record to prove it!

  • Luke72

    With all the talk about defensive focus our Hoosiers fell way short! We all need to be patient with Cody’s progress. The most astounding stat of the game is tha CZ had one rebound. Seemed as though if you where on the court for more than 20 min. more than one rebound would fall close enough for you to grab it. Still have to keep in mind that no one would have ever thought that we would have a season like we have. Sweet 16, it could happen! 

  • Bo Ryan is a great coach.  His team is a great b10 team and he has the best point gaurd IMHO in the big 10.  They are big and slow and Wilson scored his points because he was quick and on fire….Having said that I think IU will put up the next banner before Whisky because IU’s system, coaching, and recruiting creates more opportunities to win in the Tourney.  Whisky was ranked 12 and IU 15 going into this game….

    I will take the rest and feel that this yr has been a tremedous success.  Most of us had the team pegged with 18 wins this season (and that is biased in favor of IU).  We got 24 wins, NCAA 4 seed, wins over pUKe and PUke, as well as OSU and MSU.  We lost a gutsy VJIII but have a better WS and VO and the incredible CZ.  Also a pitbull of a guard and now CWat playing with passion.   ..and that is just the start….

    Most importantly this success was done the right way and we built it brick by brick over 4 yrs…We have a shot at a title this yr – and a great shot over the next 3 yrs….I think Whisky is a good program, but I like our position much better……

  • Jmfriedman

    It definitely influenced the outcome.  You can say what you want, but I was there and saw what I saw.  Yes, we may still have lost, but if you think all of those no calls on travels alone, which would give us 4 more possessions and take away four of their possessions doesn’t affect this game you are nuts.  I just want to walk away from an IU-Wisconsin game and feel as if it were evenly officiated, and I am sorry, but I don’t see it here…..not even close.

  • Kelin Blab

    I will be brief in my comments about this game……

    + The kid played out of his mind and there was nothing we could do
    + Next year we could put….patterson, creek, abell, hollowell, etherington, or a NUMBER of guys on a kid like that to stop him.
    +  Tomorrow for the first time in a long time, Selection Sunday will be watched in my household and it will mean something…I am so pumped about that……..

  • 888

    You said it. That if nothing else shows how bad weve been the last 14 years. No other major program has done something shameful like that. Next yeart we better be there or it will be disapointing.

  • 888

    You said it. That if nothing else shows how bad weve been the last 14 years. No other major program has done something shameful like that. Next yeart we better be there or it will be disapointing.

  • NotTheRealSteveEyl

    Teams seem to be figuring Vic out for sure.  I’m hoping playing some teams who aren’t so familiar with us next week will help.  And Vic learned to shoot free throws last summer, maybe he can get a jumper this summer.  

    Watford’s been playing like a man- another double double.  If he does that every game, I like our chances.  

    Wiscy is a terrible matchup for us for some reason.  I thought we could out-athlete them, but they got away with their clutch and grab BS, and we just aren’t a good defensive team.  We’ve played enough games that I feel safe saying that; at this point I’ve made peace with it.  

    We didn’t play badly on O.  We shot 49% and scored 71.  We beat them on the boards 30-28.  We only had 10 TOS.  We made 18 FTs, they shot 16.  On paper, against Wiscy, that sure looks like a win.  But we only shot 6 threes (inexcusable for a team like us) and we allowed them to shoot 26 (inexcusable for any team).

  • NotTheRealSteveEyl

    I think you nailed it with the dumb part.  I’m genrally pretty negatory, but sometimes you just run into a kid having the best day of his life.  It’s all downhill from here, Rob Wilson.

  • WatchingYogi_atYogis

    I’m always a Crean defender.  But based on what I saw yesterday, I think saying he got “outcoached” is a fair point.  We struggled to guard the three initially because we were playing an inept 2-3 zone.  To start us in that was by my estimations, with the benefit of hindsight of course, a coaching failure.  Our defense had been bristling recently.  But they got hot with open looks and never really looked back even when we went to man.  But they were making tougher shots in the second half, compared to the open looks they got early. 

    To give an example of why the zone was, or just is, so bad: every time they rotated the ball to the wing on the opposite side of VO, when he was playing one of the front 2s in the 2-3, he would rotate over to the top of the key and the far side 3 in the 2-3 would fail to rotate over to his spot.  The end result was a cross court pass to an open shooter.  Simply put, VOs man would never be that wide open in man.

    I admit that Wisconsin shot the ball well, of course.  But we played and coached bad.  And Crean “forgetting” to get Watford and VO back in the game at the end was costly as well on the defensive end. 

    But hey, this isn’t the important one.  I still have confidence CTC will use a better gameplan when we are playing for a Sweet 16 spot.  That’s where I could say, we have accomplished more than I would have ever dreamed of this season.  I could actually say that already.  But that’s where I am totally satisfied.

  • Outoftheloop

    Number one: WI is just better than IU right now. They made the plays and IU didn’t. Victor MUST finish and score. If that means pulling up at 7 feet and NOT going to the rim, then do it,. He was 2/12, for only 7 points. Remy played well, he should get more minutes. I have heard the rumors that Austin’s Dad has been disappointed in his playing time. Yesterday, Austin got 3 minutes in the first half with the game on the line. He was beaten by his man for three scores and could not find a shot for himself. That is sort of what you expect from a “normal” freshman without much experience. You have to “earn” your playing time, in practice, in the gym, etc. He can really improve in this coming off-season. He is a good and solid kid. In college sports, parents are cheerleaders only, they don’t know “diddly” about ranking talent! The stats were very close: IU/WI, FG 49/48.2, 3’s 50/50, FT 81.8/75, Reb 30/28, but then TO 10/7 and Assists 8/16 (WI wins the game). WI just made every big play and IU didn’t! No disgrace there, WI is pretty good.

  • WatchingYogi_atYogis

    I thought that was big too.  Quit benching VO in crunch time.  I thought we learned against Nebraska that is a recipe for disaster.

    But it wasn’t all coaching.  VO kept getting beat on baseline drives by Evans, Sheehey couldn’t keep Taylor in front of him (even if he did brick the layup), and CZ got abused by the all around game of Bergerren.  It certaily wasn’t just on CTC.  But he wasn’t blameless.  I still love our coach.  We just have to have a little better gameplan in the NCAA.

    In the NCAA?  That still sounds good.

    In the NCAA.

  • WatchingYogi_atYogis

    I thought that was big too.  Quit benching VO in crunch time.  I thought we learned against Nebraska that is a recipe for disaster.

    But it wasn’t all coaching.  VO kept getting beat on baseline drives by Evans, Sheehey couldn’t keep Taylor in front of him (even if he did brick the layup), and CZ got abused by the all around game of Bergerren.  It certaily wasn’t just on CTC.  But he wasn’t blameless.  I still love our coach.  We just have to have a little better gameplan in the NCAA.

    In the NCAA?  That still sounds good.

    In the NCAA.

  • Outoftheloop

    Not so fast. Watford, Oladipo, Sheehey, and Abell can switch and there is not much difference at all. Each is a long and athletic defender. Hulls, Elston, Roth and Etherington are weak defensively. A good coach and an experienced team (=WI), will expose the weaknesses, where ever they are.

  • WiscHoosier

    Bad loss, good win for UW, IU a 5th seed in UK’s bracket. 

  • MillaRed

    Gotta admit Yogi, the early zone against a team that lives and dies by the three was just plain puzzling.

  • MillaRed

     Where is this JC transfer stuff coming from? I have been watching this kid for 4 years. He was in the same class as Evans who redshirted????

    Rob Wilson is a 4th year senior at UW.

  • MillaRed

    I see a lot of the “outcoached” comments and I am not sure why that is a surprise. Ryan is a top 5 coach in the country with X’s and O’s. CTC just isn’t there yet and that is not a criticism. Ryan is older and his entire success is based on his scheme. Yes, the paint drying, excruciating, tireless scheme they call basketball.

    Furthermore, he is making his disgusting faces and screaming at the officials for 40 minutes over every call and CTC is asking if they made the right call or not. Advantage Bo Ryan.

    The officiating may not have decided the game, but it sure as H affected it. It was not good at all. Please don’t tell me it was.

    Simply put, Rob Wilson beat the Hoosiers. This is a kid my Wisconsin brothers have been begging to graduate for 4 years. He has been a complete bust. There is nothing to be upset about. He will stink tonight against MSU. He had one game in his collegiate career to speak of and it knocked us out of the tourney. Thanks kid.

    Did Dan Dakich tell the world that “Officials do not want to call fouls on Cody Zeller?” Are you an idiot? The guy that screws up 3 names per game just threw our best player under the bus. WTH are you thinking? I was not a huge Dakich fan. Now I am not at all. Totally an unsolicited opinion. Dufus.

  • MillaRed

    I see a lot of the “outcoached” comments and I am not sure why that is a surprise. Ryan is a top 5 coach in the country with X’s and O’s. CTC just isn’t there yet and that is not a criticism. Ryan is older and his entire success is based on his scheme. Yes, the paint drying, excruciating, tireless scheme they call basketball.

    Furthermore, he is making his disgusting faces and screaming at the officials for 40 minutes over every call and CTC is asking if they made the right call or not. Advantage Bo Ryan.

    The officiating may not have decided the game, but it sure as H affected it. It was not good at all. Please don’t tell me it was.

    Simply put, Rob Wilson beat the Hoosiers. This is a kid my Wisconsin brothers have been begging to graduate for 4 years. He has been a complete bust. There is nothing to be upset about. He will stink tonight against MSU. He had one game in his collegiate career to speak of and it knocked us out of the tourney. Thanks kid.

    Did Dan Dakich tell the world that “Officials do not want to call fouls on Cody Zeller?” Are you an idiot? The guy that screws up 3 names per game just threw our best player under the bus. WTH are you thinking? I was not a huge Dakich fan. Now I am not at all. Totally an unsolicited opinion. Dufus.

  • Guest

    Let’s see, Wisconsin is ranked higher, finished higher in the standings, beat IU in the regular season, and beat IU again yesterday.  How is IU better again?