The Minute After: Chattanooga

  • 11/13/2011 8:08 pm in

Thoughts on a 78-53 win over the Mocs:


After hearing about an improved defensive focus leading into the season, the Hoosiers showed it tonight.

They anticipated the passing lanes well and racked up 15 steals — including six by Cody Zeller and four from Verdell Jones — which aided in some easy transition buckets. For the game, the Mocs also turned it over 25 times with the Hoosiers scoring 30 points off those turnovers. Indiana also contested shots and didn’t give a lot of breathing room to Chattanooga. In turn, the Mocs had a rough shooting night, racking up a woeful effective field goal percentage of 36.9 percent — 29.2 from two, 41.7 percent from three — thanks to some strong work from beyond the arc late.

And as Alex tweeted: “Indiana held the Mocs to 53 points. Only held two opponents — Wright State and Illinois — under 54 a season ago.”

The first 15 minutes of the contest, the Mocs were able to keep it close by playing some physical D and not letting the Hoosiers get out on the run. But once IU started busting out, the rout was on.


After tying his career high (16 points) on Friday night against Stony Brook, Victor Oladipo outdid himself tonight, scoring a career high 21 points (6-of-9). The Dematha product was efficient thanks to a couple of dunks — including an alley-oop from Jordan Hulls — and a strong showing at the line (8-of-11).

His cat-like quickness and high energy continue to shine in the early goings of this season.


Perhaps because the Hoosiers are finding themselves with a lot of perimeter scoring options and they also just aren’t used to a post presence yet, Cody Zeller often appears as an afterthought in the offense. Indiana was able to get him going a bit more in the second half against the Seawolves on Friday night, but he took only three shots in tonight’s contest and almost had as many steals as points (seven).

There’s still plenty of time to find the balance between Indiana’s use of Zeller in the post and its scoring options on the perimeter. And it won’t be this lopsided every game.

But for this team to have the best chance of winning once the Big Ten season hits, they need to figure out how to get Zeller involved in the flow of things from start to finish.


Beyond making sure Zeller gets his touches, Hulls is another player that shouldn’t get lost on offense. He’s simply too good a shooter not to involve. Tonight, Hulls got off a ton of shots from three — nine in total — and converted on six of them for 18 points.

This is what he does. And does well.


Another comfortable win against another smaller school expected to make a decent amount of noise in its conference. There’s plenty of room for improvement two games into 2011-12, but this team is without a doubt looking better across the board.

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  • Anonymous

    Unless the kid is 7′ tall he will never redshirt, except for medical reasons, at IU. I respectfully disagree with you on Remy. He has a very nice stroke, he just hit the front of the rim on a good shot from 18′. His form on the FT’s (3/4) was fine. He has played 18 min and is 1/4 FG, 0/1 3-point, 5/6 FT, 3 reb, 1A/2TO, 2 S. Pretty good for a freshman on a veteran team!

  • Anonymous

    Which will be in Jan-March of 2012 if he keeps getting playing time!

  • Anonymous

    Jones shot may win that same game, oh, he has done that against MN.

  • Anonymous

    Agree think it is a combination of both. The video where Kenny Smith was advising Yogi on the proper way to use a screen should be required viewing for all IU guards followed by a on court quiz that they should have to score at least an A+ on before they can quit. I see a lot of what he told Yogi he was doing wrong being done by our current guards. They don’t drive the defender back enough before using the screen and thus allowing them to scrape the defender off using the screen.

  • Anonymous

    CZ is a perfect example of when a coach tells all of the players that they can do the little things that don’t show up in the stat sheet but are required to better their team’s chances of winning the game and that can greatly affect the outcome of the game.

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    JH, WS, VO, CW, CZ.  We got to play our lineup and our game.  We need to force matchup problems, not be victims of matchup problems to other teams.  If they want to bang, then we will run them out of the gym.

  • Anonymous

    And then there is always if the injury thing rears it’s ugly head like it has the last 3 years running. He allows us to withstand an injury better now than we have been able to in the past. Would be terrible if he had been redshirted and missed meaningful game minutes only to have to pull the redshirt off of him down the road.

  • Anonymous

    This message from Barnett to Marcus just in…… GOT IT !!

  • Anonymous

    Of course, those are the top 5 of the top 7! But we will need 7 and sometimes 8-10 to win.

  • Anonymous

    Agree with some other that while his D did look better there is still plenty of room for improvement, and like some others I hope we have seen him take his last shot behind the arc.

    That one drive he had to the basket where he put his head down and used the spin dribble to spin into, not one, not two, not three, but four defenders that ended up in a charging call was just bad, not kinda bad, but really bad. If he cannot get those kind of things out of his system completely than he should take some time to think about how to do that while he is sitting next to the coaches on the bench cause he looks to be able to help us win some games if he plays the role we need him to play.

  • MillaRed

    Does Butler lose this game if Cody had committed there? Things that make you go, ‘hmmmmm.”

  • Anonymous

    Agree, that in the past he may have felt like that and that it is correctable and that he is capable of correcting them but, IF, he will is the big question and if so, when, cause he is out of off seasons to get it taken care of.

  • MillaRed

    I was thinking the same thing. Maybe 6-8 of those were clankers you really can’t do anything about.

  • MillaRed

    It’s a numbers game really. 5 TOs probably put us in a situation where the game was tight in the first place.

    It’s not just the TOs. It’s the nature of the TO’s. He is a senior making DII freshman mistakes.

  • MillaRed

    Good point. We all know what that’s like from experience.

  • Anonymous

    Not getting him the ball, yes. Moore not proving that he is ready to take the shot when he has it, no.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t disagree. My point was from the perspective of offense only. When B1G teams only have to focus on guarding four people, its not going to make winning games any easier.

  • Anonymous

    and not usually waiting until there were only 7 seconds left on the shot clock.

  • Anonymous

    Having formerly been known as MillaNun I’m sure I don’t have to point out that a couple of the shots that VJ3 hit clearly show that he worked overtime in church that morning. If those prayer shots don’t fall his stat line starts looking even worse and you are so right, some of his turnovers are not turnovers that a senior that has played as much as he has should be making or at least not as often as he makes them.

  • Anonymous

    A good passing angle when feeding the post is almost if not more basic as the pick & roll and getting better at both will serve this team well, A lot of the time it’s the littlest and most basic things that make the biggest difference. Think they figure this out more and more as the season goes.

  • ldiu

    Elston has taken 8 shots in 2 games and hit 6.  While he certainly won’t maintain that high of a percentage, every  shot taken has been nearly wide open.  He also had 5 rebounds yesterday in just 13 minutes.  He has NOT taken more shots that CZ.  Do the math and give him a break.

    I fully agree he looked terrible last year.  Hopefully, that is behind us and he’ll continue to play good basketball.

  • stonaroni

    I hope you are right, that would be awesome to see, but we have more weapons this year and some guys who seem to be ingnited on defense, I haven’t seen that out of CW in 2 years.

    I hope he is just about 80% and getting over injuries.

  • stonaroni

    Exactly, it was Stony Brook, he should look OK against them.  I saw AE play 5 minutes, go 3-3 from the field and can 2 threes and a nice back door cut himself, one he didn’t give up.

    Hustle and scrappy play from a 5’9″ in the B10 gets you 0-18 conference record.

    At 6’6″, one atleast looks like he belongs on the court.  Given the 9 inch difference in height and probably a foot or more higher release means better looks on shots, a better rebounder, longer arms to get in passing lanes and 4 years of eligibility not 1.

    Believe me remy and AE need to take minutes from Moore, Roth, VJIII when he has TO disease.

  • InTheMtns

    Rebounding actually was Chattanooga 45, Indiana 36. But your point is still the same – we got out rebounded and we’ve got to do better with rebounding.

  • stonaroni

    I will take DE making 50% of his shots and grabbing 5 or 6 boards a game in about 15 to 18 minutes each night.  this team can stand to get some help from DE because CW numbers will be down this year due to CZ, but DE’s could be up which to me is a good trade off.  This means more depth and more weapons on the floor with confidence.

  • stonaroni

    I 100% agree.  Quin Buckner said our bench is deep.  If one of those 5 are struggling there is a back up who can play.

    VJIII is a SR but a defensive liability at least he can score and snag some boards.  Moore is a SR but a defensive liability, Roth is a SR but a defensive liability, at least Moore dives on the floor.  TP is a liability at all times unless we need to foul.

    My 10 man rotation would be JH, VO, WS, CW, CZ starting and DE, VJIII, AE, Remy and TP off the bench.  Maybe Moore plays if JH is playing horribly, but I think CTC wants to see Remy at PG from time to time.

  • stonaroni

    I agree, when CW was bad an WS is a bit under the weather, DE should have had 20 min last night.

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    I agree with that too.

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    That is about where I am at too.  Roth gets the wildcard when we need a boost from behind the arc. Very key to each situation, but I like having a sharpshooter ready on the bench.  I really hope there is a way we can keep him next year. Even if it is just  to have him around for him to experience the tournament if we make it.  I don’t think there is a reward big enough for the guys who chose Indiana despite the issues.  Give all of them grad assistant jobs at least.

  • Anonymous

    Really interesting question, but I think it comes down to the pieces you have the floor with each player.  With Nored, you better have some other scoring options because you’re always playing 4 on 5 on offense.  Whereas with Jordy, we absolutely need his 3-point shooting ability more so for this team in order to spread the floor when Cody gets doubled.

  • IUJeff

    Meant to hit reply instead of like. Can we get an unlike button?

    Anyhow, folks needs to look at the play by play and see what happens in these last 2 games when Daniel Moore came in. In this game, we went from 3  ahead to 12 ahead in a hurry to end the half. Daniel Moore is bringing a toughness and fight that our upperclassmen are lacking. 

    He may not be scoring much but look what happens when he gets in at the 4:26 mark till the end of the half. 

    And last game same thing in the first half at the 4:08 mark. We are up 29 – 25 and then DM comes in and IT IS ON !! 4 minutes later it is 45 – 28. 

    The play-by-play doesn’t lie. DM is our secret weapon so get off of him. 

  • Anonymous

    Daniel Moore can come in and make an impact during non-conference play, but once Big Ten play arrives, he won’t be much help.  I think Remy needs to be getting more minutes, because he will need to come off the bench and make an impact in Big Ten play.  I like Moore’s effort, but it is best for the team if Remy is getting more minutes than Moore.

    By the way, after you hit the like button, just click it again, it will unlike it.

  • IUJeff

    You may be right and I was being a bit facetious here Pat but I am a DM fan for sure. His playing for IU is a great story and I am glad he had earned a scholly for this year. Additionally IMO, if all the players had his scrappiness and tenacity we would be really hard to beat. I too hope that Remy can have an impact on the team’s play this year.   

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Posting late but I watched the game live and taped.  I just haven’t had the time to get on here.  Anyway, here’s what I saw:

    The Good:
    1)  Hulls better on both ends
    2)  Oladipo gets to the basket whenever he wants
    3)  Much better team and individual defense and quicker hands in the passing lanes
    4)  Zeller is still good
    5)  This team moves the ball much better on offense and in transition than past teams

    The Bad:
    1)  Jones – 5 TO and 2 Assists – not good against a cupcake
    2)  Watford still struggled and man is he a slow jumper!!!
    3)  I hate to start complaining like I did 2 years ago about this, but 13 minutes for Elston is way too low, especially when you consider he should be protecting CZ.  DE had 5 rebounds and 2 blocks along with ZERO TO’s in those 13 minutes and I thought he looked very good and quick defensively.  We need to get our guys who are playing the best on the floor.
    4)  I wasn’t particularly impressed that we were out-rebounded and only had one more assist (and still too many TO’s) than Chatt. but we were trying to get out in transition a lot and maybe this team just needs to get used to that pace.

    I don’t want to sound negative because I still think that this team is a much improved team over last year’s!  It’s just the coach in me seeing the things that IU needs to do better in the near future to compete with NC State, UK, ND, etc.!!!

  • midwesthoops

    Improve his handles?! Jordy probably has the best handles on the team!

  • Anonymous

    I printed the Box Score from a “Hoosier” site: Chattonooga 2+5+10+2+2+4+2=3+1+6=37+8(team)=45 I am not sure how they came up with 53 but that is what they printed. You are correct sir! But as you point out, still a problem.

  • Anonymous

    I believe that you nice suggestion on graduate assistant positions has “NCAA Violation” written all over it. Too bad.

  • The_Real_Assembly_Hall

    And that is the last thing I would want for the school.  Too bad if that is the case. Maybe 1 or 2 of them get a shot at something like that if they are worthy of the job.