Crean on Indiana’s latest signee, Remy Abell

  • 05/18/2011 1:30 pm in

Indiana coach Tom Crean took to Twitter this afternoon to offer his thoughts on the Hoosiers’ latest signee — Louisville Eastern guard Remy Abell.

Crean’s tweets, formatted here into one paragraph, are below:

“Excited that Remy Abell will be joining the program. He is a year-round winner who will bring a great deal of versatility to our program. He is a big guard who will have an immediate impact defensively with his ability to guard three positions. He can get to the rim on offense, knock down open shots and will really add to our transition game. I think the most impressive thing about him is his ability to make everyone around him better and he does not have to have the ball in his hands to be effective. In a lot of ways, he reminds me a lot of Jerel McNeal who we had at Marquette. We are very excited to have been able to get someone with ties to the So. Indiana/Louisville area where we have such a wonderful fan base.”

The Louisville native committed to Indiana back on April 27. He was selected for the Kentucky All-Star team and was named first team All-State by The Courier-Journal. He averaged 16 points, 2.8 rebounds, 2.7 assists and 2.5 steals and had 25 blocked shots during his senior season at Eastern.

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  • Anonymous

     If Crean is right about all this stuff (and his very-recent track record on wings is pretty strong), Abell will be a very useful player to have on the team.  Looking forward to seeing him out there.

  • Anonymous

     If Crean is right about all this stuff (and his very-recent track record on wings is pretty strong), Abell will be a very useful player to have on the team.  Looking forward to seeing him out there.

  • Anonymous

     If Crean is right about all this stuff (and his very-recent track record on wings is pretty strong), Abell will be a very useful player to have on the team.  Looking forward to seeing him out there.

  • MIhoosier

    If Abell singed up for financial aid, is he on a scholly too?? 

  • He signed financial ad paperwork because he couldn’t sign another Letter of Intent (he had already signed with Bradley and you cannot sign two LOI’s). Yes he is on scholarship.

  • Casey B.

    “I don’t know if it’s confusing recruits, but it is to me as a fan.”

    In the past two years, Crean has landed Indiana’s Mr. Basketball (Zeller), Etherington, a Kentucky All-Star (Abell), Peter Jurkin, the Indianapolis Player of the Year (Ron Patterson), Yogi Ferrell, Hanner Perea, Jeremy Hollowell, Devin Davis, Colin Hartman, the National Freshman of the Year (Lyles) and James Blackmon Jr.

    I’m pretty sure the recruits aren’t getting confused.

    If you don’t think Crean talks about IU all the time, follow him on Twitter and quit overreacting. People in any profession reference past jobs as learning points all the time. It doesn’t mean they’re not dedicated to what they currently do.

  • Anonymous

    I agree I think he needs to start using IU players as examples… I’m pretty sure we have had a lot better players than Marquette other than Wade…
     

  • Casey B.

    He compared Hollowell to Christian Watford.

    Are you guys privy to some of the private conversations he has with recruits?

    Also, how many of IU’s players in the past three seasons do you think would serve as flattering comparisons for incoming recruits? Should Crean have told Yogi that he reminds him of Devan Dumes?

     

  • Anonymous

    “A new North Carolina coach talks about North Carolina.  A new Kansas coach talks about Kansas.”

    North Carolina coach Roy Williams just went back to Kansas for a fundraiser hosted by Kansas coach Bill Self.  He also spent part of it talking about his feelings for KU fans and their feelings for him. 

    Coaches have a history, they carry it with them.  Crean can’t just drop nearly a decade of his life from memory, nor the kids who impact his life.  In this case he’s just trying to use an example of a player who he feels shares a possibly similar college career (hope he’s right).  Crean hasn’t been at IU long enough to have many players to use for comparison.  He hasn’t graduated anyone, there are not 4-year careers to use as a comparison.

  • Anonymous

    Same here, looking forward to seeing him.  Interesting prospect. 

    I’m always happy for a Kentucky kid get a chance to see things north of the river.  I try and get my cousins up here often, provide a positive influence.

    Seriously though, I’ll be pulling for him to be able to go home each summer with bragging rights.  It’ll be great to show kids they don’t have to turn to the dark side if they want to leave city-state that is Louisville, all while staying close to home. 

  • Anonymous

    I wholeheartedly disagree.  First off, Crean talks about Indiana plenty.  It’s most of what he does.  But secondly, and most importantly, part of what he sells when he recruits is his ability to make players better, reach their potential and (hopefully) get guys to the NBA.  When Crean tells a recruit, “you remind me a lot of [X Marquette player whom Crean coached and made it to the NBA or played pro somewhere]”, it has to mean a whole lot more than “you remind me a lot of [X Indiana player who I had nothing to do with]”.

  • Anonymous

    I agree Casey.

    At the end of the day I don’t think it matters one bit.  Moreover, Crean is and was perfect for the IU job at the time – an incredible promoter.  This man has promoted IU and its tradition as much as one could ever hope.

    I would say we are rather lucky myself.  So what if he tosses out a Marquette reference every now and again.  On balance, there is no downside.

  • Anonymous

    I’m happy he is promoting and i believe he is doing a wonderful job!. Now I wish he could develop and coach as well as he sales! To be completely honest the only player I have seen improvement from is HULLS!!!!  

  • Bucky

    Replying to everyone about my post.

    All I meant, and could have said better, was that the Marquette talk seems so pervasive, and shows no signs of abating. 

    I’ve seen it in taped interviews, for years.  I’ve seen in in postgame Q and A press conferences, for years.  I’ve read it in multiple print and online sources, for years.  Over, and over, and over.  I don’t recall any other coach doing this to the same degree.

    It just seems a bit much.  That’s all. 

    Anyway, I didn’t mean to start anything.  I have way too much respect for ITH to do that.  Anyone who has read my prior posts know that.  I also support TCT as a coach.  

  • IUJeff

    Crean took Marquette to a final four with D Wade. I might refer to Marquette sometimes as well if I had accomplished that. It was not a slip and there is no need for him to put it behind him. Think of something positive to say Bucky. 

  • IUJeff

    Crean took Marquette to a final four with D Wade. I might refer to Marquette sometimes as well if I had accomplished that. It was not a slip and there is no need for him to put it behind him. Think of something positive to say Bucky. 

  • Anonymous

    I think he told Yogi that he was a smaller and quicker version of Finklemeier. 

  • Anonymous

    Hulls has shown a ton of improvement.  But I too would argue Watford has progressed nicely as well as Verdell Jones.  I too think Oladipo and Sheehey developed well throughout their freshman campaign.

    I understand your point however and the critisism Crean has had.  However, I am holding out judgement until more quality players come in.  Of those players that are quality – they all have improved. 

  • Kelin Blab

     I think Crean refers to marquette soley because that is where most of his experience is from. He can’t compare a guy to Mike Woodson or Ray Tolbert cause he never coached them. Do you want him to compare Remy to IU greats like Malik Story, Nick Williams….

    I will question Crean on EVERYTHING but what he says to recruits. He has bought himself 2 years of recruiting grace with me.

  • Kelin Blab

    I like what Remy has to offer. We need guys who don’t need the ball and we have one now. He seems like a big guard which I am a fan off. If he can crack the rotation and the one spot I will be more than thrilled. 

  • Anonymous

    On a random note, Remy looks like a man in that picture!  He is jacked.  Not a lot of 18 year olds stepping up to him.  He is for sure college-ready from a physical perspective.

  • RobD

    i will be damned if i am going to tolerate Crean referring to an incoming player as a lot like a player from another school. if i ever hear Zeller referred to as a “more mobile, athletic version of what North Carolina has with Tyler Zeller”, I will lose it.

  • Kelin Blab

     RobD you are too late I have heard Crean compare Cody to a non IU guy a long time ago….not sure it is worth losing it over. I am sure Cal used comparisons from his Memphis days, RMK used comparisons from his Indiana days…..I just don’t think it is a big deal.

    If Remy is as good as Jerel McNeal I am all for it.

  • Casey B.

    Watford absolutely improved. He may not be where you’d like him to be yet, but I find it a bit ridiculous to say he didn’t improve from his freshman year. 

  • Casey B.

    Good point. Frankly, Calipari would be a fool not to bring up Derrick Rose, who happens to be mildly good at his profession.

  • Anonymous

     Haha…who exactly? This is a team that has lost 20+ games three seasons in a row. I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t be too exicted about adding more players comparable to what we already have.

  • Plane1972

    When Crean gets fitted for his 2014 national championship ring and they unfurl the banner, the Marquette talk will subside (or at least at that point we’ll be able to tolerate it).  

  • unclekerfuffle

    Just curious, Bucky.  Who do you think RA is similar to that played/plays at IU.  I’m not calling you out, I would be interested to get an IU comparison as well.

  •  go with fife bucky lol

  • oldred1976

    Well, Remy coach has some good things to say about you.Sounds good to me too All you have to do is play your best, work hard and show up everyday. If you want some examples watch Jordy Hulls and maybe Will , Mo and Victor.

    Oh yeah don’t take every thing on this site too serious!

  • InTheMtns

    I wish Crean would stop with the Marquette references, too. I’m not confused by it, just really tired of it. And I agree with Bucky that he does it too much (for my taste). 
     
    I understand and agree with what everyone has written in response to Bucky. And I don’t want Crean to compare a player to one on another team that he didn’t coach either.
     
    Still, I really wish he’d reference Marquette only rarely, if at all. As Kelin said he probably does it because that’s where most of his experience is from. But with that being four years ago now, it is old history and, in my opinion, only calls attention to the fact that he has had little accomplishments in recent history. He has no examples from IU so he uses examples from Marquette. I support Coach Crean, I understand the reasons for few wins of late and I’m accepting of it. But I swear, every time he refers to something he did at Marquette or someone he coached at Marquette, it always reminds me that we haven’t accomplished much at IU. And I’d prefer not to be reminded. I’m very much looking forward to the day when he has examples from IU to use!
     

  • Anonymous

    I was talking about players in the past… He was a big yen assistant so I’m sure he remembers some oh our former players……

  • Anonymous

    I can’t wait till I can give Crean a lot more credibility when he speaks ………still love ya Crean, but still waiting also…..lol

  • Anonymous

     Remy looks like a good fit and appears ready to contribute.  I love the comments about his defense and making others better.  Compare his body as a high school senior to Verdell Jones III.  Glad to have him. Go Hoosiers!

  • Anonymous

    I’m pretty sure RobD is joking 

  • Anonymous

    I’ll second Casey B.  Watford and Jones have both improved.  Neither is where we hope for them to be and they haven’t reached their potential, but they have improved. 

  • Q95

    this guy just looks like a player. more than any other player tc has brought on board to date, remy will be making solid contributions early on.  

  • Casey B.

    You want Crean to compare recruits to former players he didn’t even coach?

    Might as well start telling everyone they look like Michael Jordan.

  • Anonymous

     If there’s one thing CTC knows its guards and Remy also fills a huge need for IU as a perimeter defender.  Stopping dribble penetration has been an achilles heel for the past 3 years.

  • I thought he was coming here to play PG.  TC’s tweet makes me think otherwise, especially “he does not have to have the ball in his hands to be effective”.  Honestly, it’s hard for me to get too excited over another SG no matter much TC talks him up. 

  • RobD

    Yep. 

  • RobD

     Kidding…

  • RobD

    Take it easy man, it was a joke.

  • Anonymous

    I hear he’s telling that to everyone.  He has a doll now that he pulls the chord and it compares them to the Fink. 

  • Anonymous

    I can agree that maybe they have both improved but I would hope that we could all agree that they have not improved to the level that we would expect them to at this point.  Is that coaching or the players themselves?  Time will tell.  Hopefully both show significant improvement this year and maybe the talent level around them will improve and allow them to reach their potential.  I sure hope so. 

  • Anonymous

    Definitely.  Obviously you want every player to get better but those are two guys that could clearly be a lot better and have tons of room between play and potential.  But it’s impossible to say where the fault lies and I imagine even CTC and the players couldn’t tell you who’s fault it is.  And yes, they really ought to be showing significant improvement next year…

  • Anonymous

    Please oh please let him say that about someone.  I welcome that with open arms.  One of the best tweeners of all time. 

  • Casey B.

    I think you’ll see his talk of Marquette taper in accordance with his teams getting better at IU.

  • Anonymous

     I think that the talent level will absolutely help everyone on the team get better.  Who on the roster can push Watford in practice?  No one has his combo of height, inside/outside game.  I don’t know if we have anyone like him this coming year either, but the talent level is getting better, so practice will be more competitive.  That will only help!

  • Casey B.

    Honestly, I understand why Watford catches so much flack sometimes, but I think people too easily claim “he’s not where he should be.” But really?

    Remember, he was a sophomore last year.

    A sophomore who averaged 16 points and 5 rebounds per game. Those aren’t exactly lamentable numbers…

    I think Watford’s weaknesses are simply magnified because he’s relied upon heavily to carry the team, and when he proves incapable of doing so on his own, we get frustrated.

    He didn’t have an overwhelming supporting cast last year. I think we’ll see another jump in production and maturity from Watford this year, but claiming a sophomore who led the team in scoring “isn’t where he should be” is a stretch, in my opinion.