A few thoughts on Capobianco’s decision to transfer

In the unlikely event that you’ve yet to hear, Indiana Media Relations announced on Friday that Bobby Capobianco is leaving the program and will transfer.

After digesting this development over the weekend, here are a few thoughts:

– Crean’s first 2009 recruit: While much of the focus in the comments in recent weeks has been on finding room for the 2012 recruiting class, it’s important to remember that Capobianco committed to the program when things were at an all-time low. The Ohio native was Tom Crean’s first verbal in the 2009 recruiting class, which was ranked in the top ten nationally, and was a solid student and citizen during his time in Bloomington.

– Decline in minutes: Capobianco’s minutes fell from 11.9 per game as a freshman to 6.3 per game as a sophomore. He logged more fouls (44) than total points (26) last season. His minutes, had he remained a Hoosier, were likely to fall even further with the arrival of Cody Zeller. While playing time was not cited as a reason for his decision by Capobianco in the school’s release, it was mentioned by Tom Crean. Even with a big offseason of improvement, Capobianco was likely the odd post player out in the rotation.

– Fourth transfer: This is the fourth transfer in three seasons of the Tom Crean era. There were two after year one: Malik Story and Nick Williams and one last summer: Bawa Muniru. The level of attrition thus far seems normal given the rebuilding state of the program and the continued improvement in recruiting.

– Scholarship situation: Capobianco’s announcement means that Indiana can now sign all five players that are currently committed in the 2012 class in November. (Updated scholarship numbers here.) The NCAA has a limit of 13 scholarships, but the Big Ten allows conference members to oversign by one. The Hoosiers continue to recruit Gary Harris and Mitch McGary for the 2012 class, but as the roster currently stands, only five players can sign early in November.

  • Anonymous

     Alex, assuming IU doesn’t add anyone else before the start of the upcoming season, will Daniel Moore be awarded a scholarship for his senior year?

  • Kelin Blab

    The scholly picture always works itself out as in the case again this year. Don’t know where we are headed with Mitch or Gary Harris but …..with or without I am PERFECTLY ok with 2012.

    Lets focus on ……
    a 2013 PG like Jalen James and a big like Mark Williams or someone else.
    2014 additions of J.Lyles and or Trevon Bluiett.
     

  • Diesel

    And a winning record. 

  • Anonymous

    You are exactly on the money Kelin! Let’s enjoy the improvement of the players that we have for 2011-12, win 20 games, ROCK the Hall, and get some more great young talent for the future! 

  • Anonymous

     He will be a scholarship player–the reason he didn’t sign a LOI is because he’d already signed one for Bradley and a player is only allowed to sign on LOI.  The letter of financial aid was just a formality resulting from that situation.

  • unclekerfuffle

     At some point early in the scholarship discussion, someone posted that a member of the 2009 class might be willing to pay his own way, if it was necessary to improve the team.  Was this just the rambles of someone or was/is there any validity to the rumor?

    I guess another possible solution to the scholarship squeeze in 2012 would be for a member of that class to go the prep school route.

    These comments are based on the assumption that no more current players transfer between now and the arrival of the 2012 class and the assumption that all the current 2012 commits sign LOIs with IU.

  • http://twitter.com/IUgrad07 DaMitchellBoy

    i highly doubt anyone else transfer.  I do believe Peter Jurkin will attend prep school.  Maybe the opening for McGary or Harris

  • Hoosier Clarion

    Nice touch AB.  I too hold a lot of respect for Bobby and have enjoyed his energy and intelligence.  Wherever he next receives his mail I am going to keep my eye on him. He is quality people.

  • Anonymous

    If Mark Williams continues to be a recruiting target for us this fall/winter I’ll make sure to get over to one of his games and give out some type of opinion.  I hope he is still a solid prospect for us at that time because it will actually give me a reason to go watch a game up here in Cleveland.  I don’t expect the same type of atmosphere as in Indiana because Football is all anyone talks about up here. 

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think we will be losing too many people to the NBA. 

  • Anonymous

    Very good analysis all the way around.

    I 100% agree with your point on Bobby being the first commit in 2009.  I think people should remember that.  Thanks for pointing it out.  Maybe he wasn’t the best player on the IU roster and sadly it didn’t work out but he did give his all for the Hoosiers, gave it a shot and represented us with class.  For that we should be appreciative.  It can be much worse (ala some of Sampson’s players).

    As for the recruiting situation, Tom Crean’s actions indicate there is at least one or two more dominoes to fall before the 2012 class is finalized (i.e. Jurkin defers a year, another transfer or a decommit).   Who knows where that comes from but I don’t think Crean will be able to pass up McGary or Harris if he thinks he has a chance…I am not sure I don’t blame him. 

  • Anonymous

    I believe Williams says he’s going to commit in August as a present to his mother.

  • http://www.insidethehall.com/ Alex Bozich

    August of 2012, not this year.

  • Anonymous

    We do not have anyone going to the NBA and that includes our 2012 class. It is a very good class but there is not any NBA talent unless we get Harris. Hanner has the physical ability to be an NBA player but def. not the skill as of now… Yogi will be a very good college pg much like Lucus from MSU but he will not be an NBA player… 

  • Anonymous

    Totally agree with you.  I love our recruits.  I think they are very good.  But they are very good 3-4 year players, likely being the latter.  Which i think is a good thing frankly for the program and its success.  

    I feel a lot of the players are over hyped.  Hanner has the athletic ability for the pros but has a lot of work to do.  Not saying he won’t do it, just not in 2 years.  Yogi is great but check out how many 6’0″ under guys are in the league.  Not many!  For those that are most played 4 years and were unreal.  That said, Yogi has the potential to be like a Jameer Nelson type player.  Otherwise, we have a lot of great college recruits, which is exactly what we need and plays to our advantage!  Embrace it! 

  • Anonymous

    makes sense, thanks for the correction

  • RobD

    Guys, Michigan’s Darius Morris is viewed as a late first-round selection. You can’t really think someone like Hollowell doesn’t have a shot to be better than that. Morris was nationally ranked #77 his senior year. Hanner, Yogi, and Hollowell are all ranked higher than that. 

  • Anonymous

    This may be a question that has been answered, but how can the Big Ten trump the NCAA on the number of scholarships awarded in a year?  I understand that the Big Ten is its own entity with its own rules, but when the governing body says you can only use 13 scholarships, I don’t quite understand how the Big Ten can just say, “No,” and add another.

  • Anonymous

    My understanding is this basic concept—the NCAA number of 13 scholarships is the rule and cannot be exceeded; however, the B1G allows you to sign 14 with the understanding that one of those 14 will not get a spot. It’s kind of like the old ABA “3 to make 2″ rule on free throws, only it’s “14 to make 13.”

  • Anonymous

     So, can we use all 14 if we are in an NCAA sanctioned tournament?  That just seems really odd that the NCAA lets us get by with that.  Do any other “BCS” conferences have a similar rule? 

  • Anonymous

    Look, I am not saying that there won’t be anyone from our 2012 class go pro early.  I just don’t think the chances are as likely as what is often times assumed or predicted on these posts.  Many state that we will have multiple players leave early for the NBA like it is a foregone conclusion.  As an opinion, I happen to disagree with that.

    That said, I think it is perfectly concievable that we have one guy go pro early.  However, I would be surprised if it is two.

    Furthermore, part of it is based on my bias that I am hoping we are recruiting kids that want to be part of something special (ala Florida a couple years back) and not bolt for the $$$s when they aren’t ready (Morris in my opinion). 

    I think we are recruiting good players that will make a great team!  That is what is important.  It is all to our benefit if studs like Yogi, Zeller, Hollowell and others are 4 year players. 

  • MillaRed

    First of all, no one can deny the foul situation BC was in every time he saw the floor. What does a player do when they are facing a superior foe? Doesn’t matter if it’s D1, NBA or the playground, they foul. The poor guy was completely over matched and that wasn’t going to change.

    CZ, Pritch, and Elston will guard the opposing 5 spot. Reality is, 90% of the teams we face play two power forwards, as will the Hoosiers. Jeff Howard can fill BCs role quite easily without costing a scholarship.

    Finally, we just are not going to be that good. We are still sacrificing for the future. Bobby’s transfer was the latest part of that plan.

    This makes 100% sense to me.

  • Adam Kincade

    What about the possibility of CW declaring for the NBA after this next year? Don’t want to see it but I think it’s likely if he continues to improve.

  • InTheMtns

     Calbert, Div 1 men’s basketball teams can have only 13 scholarship players. The B1G’s “oversign-by-one” rule is meant to give coaches some flexibility so they can deal with things like current players leaving early or recruits changing their minds, not becoming academically eligible, etc. – and not get stuck at the last minute holding an unused scholarship and having a hole in their roster.
     
    Signing more recruits than you have scholarships for has been a standard practice for years in football in some conferences and it put conferences that didn’t allow it at a disadvantage. In response, the B1G adopted rules that allowed 3 oversigns in football and 1 in basketball as a way to lessen the disadvantage but still keep things under reasonable control. Oversigning is seen as a controversial practice by some because it has the possibility of being abused, resulting in players being pushed out at the last minute.
     
    As we stand now, IU will be in compliance for this fall’s signing date with 14 scholarships; but we must be at 13 when the 2012 class starts school. Whether that means someone leaving, someone staying but going off scholarship or someone not coming remains to be seen, but we have to be at 13 scholarships when the 2012 class starts school.

  • CreamandCrimson

    If Watford were to declare for the NBA Draft, he would have a very difficult time getting drafted.  Watch his game and tell me how it would translate to any kind of success in the league.  He is jumping ability and lacks explosiveness around the rim.  He struggles to create his own shot off the dribble.  He can’t, or won’t, consistently play defense.  He isn’t very strong.  I like the improvement CW continues to show but he is nowhere near being an NBA player right now.  Barring a quantum leap this season, don’t worry about him leaving early.   

  • Anonymous

    I would agree with you.  Although I think he will continue to progress into a very good college player, highliting facts that what it takes to succeed in each can often times be very different.

  • IU_Fan_99

    I think that would be a nice reward for the years of hard work… 

  • MillaRed

     I agree. Not only are we relying on a full health recovery, we’re talking about a 3-star recruit that has limited playing time and minimal high level exposure over the last year.

    I’m beginning to think if PJ is not 100% healthy and playing well by the end of the year a contingency plan will kick in.

  • walt

    Agee 100% on what I have seen on C.W.  A great shooter,  sure hope he gains some upper body strength (maybe lower too?). He could be brilliant player. If the strengthening happens, how about more attitude too. I guess I agree with you 92%, cannot judge his defense. Should he have that quantum leap. Bye. See ya later. He is gone. 

  • walt

    Agee 100% on what I have seen on C.W.  A great shooter,  sure hope he gains some upper body strength (maybe lower too?). He could be brilliant player. If the strengthening happens, how about more attitude too. I guess I agree with you 92%, cannot judge his defense. Should he have that quantum leap. Bye. See ya later. He is gone. 

  • walt

    Agee 100% on what I have seen on C.W.  A great shooter,  sure hope he gains some upper body strength (maybe lower too?). He could be brilliant player. If the strengthening happens, how about more attitude too. I guess I agree with you 92%, cannot judge his defense. Should he have that quantum leap. Bye. See ya later. He is gone. 

  • Anonymous

    Watford is not good enough to declare early.  He has talent and potential, but unless he makes some huge strides it most likely will not happen.

  • Anonymous

    Watford is not good enough to declare early.  He has talent and potential, but unless he makes some huge strides it most likely will not happen.

  • Anonymous

    Watford is not good enough to declare early.  He has talent and potential, but unless he makes some huge strides it most likely will not happen.

  • stonaroni

    At least he will have to practice against someone over 6’9 every day in CZ.  I think our lack of height in practice harms our guys onthe blocks as they are weak through conatcat and cannot shoot over any one taller than them.

  • http://www.insidethehall.com/ Alex Bozich

    Seems possible, but I’m not sure if that’s how it will work out.

  • Anonymous

    No you can never have more than 13 scholarship players once school starts!

  • Anonymous

    We are talking about Watford at the END of the 2011-12 season, not now.

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