Recruiting notebook: Final ESPN rankings released, three 2019 guards claim IU offers

  • 04/18/2018 8:15 am in

The final ESPN 100 rankings for the class of 2018 were released on Tuesday and just one of Indiana’s four signees is included.

Pickerington North (Ohio) forward Jerome Hunter is ranked No. 64 in the final ESPN 100. The three other signees are all ranked as four-star prospects, but did not make the final top 100.

According to the final ESPN 100, Hunter is ranked as the 18th best small forward in the country, Damezi Anderson is the 29th best small forward, Robert Phinisee is the 26th best point guard and Jake Forrester is the 25th best center.

Five-star New Albany guard, who is still considering Indiana, Kansas and Vanderbilt, is ranked No. 5 overall in the final ESPN rankings behind R.J. Barrett, Zion Williamson, Cam Reddish and Bol Bol.

Langford will announce his college decision on Monday, April 30 at 7 p.m. at New Albany High School’s gymnasium.

Three class of 2019 guards claim IU offers

It’s been an active period for the Indiana coaching staff on the recruiting trail with in-home visits and watching workouts at gyms across the country.

Three class of 2019 guard prospects have reported scholarship offers from the IU staff over the last four days.

On Sunday, Bettendorf (Iowa) point guard DJ Carton tweeted that he was offered by the IU staff. Carton visited Bloomington this past season for the Purdue game and has more than 15 scholarship offers. The 6-foot-1 point guard is ranked No. 48 in the 247Composite.

On Tuesday, a pair of prospects who play in Florida reported IU offers: Jahmius Ramsey and Tre Mann.

Ramsey, who is originally from Texas, plays at IMG Academy in Florida. He’s ranked the No. 91 prospect by the 247Composite and is a 6-foot-4 combo guard.

Mann, a 6-foot-1 point guard from The Villages, also reported on IU offer via Twitter late Tuesday.

Mann is ranked No. 37 nationally by the 247Composite.

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  • jaywiz

    The Villages? Does he have any eligibility left?

  • IU track Alumni

    Always cool this time of year the offers start to go out and you can imagine different combinations of players committed. 2019 class I think is more important than 2018 for Archie.

  • N71

    I was trying to determine how many scholarships we’d have available for 2019…I’m guessing 4. One would be Juwan, the second Romeo’s leaving early. The 3rd is a random transfer, the 4th is the other, currently open scholarship, that may go to a grad transfer that will be gone after a year, so 4. Priorities, 1) Trayce, 2) Watford/Brooks, 3) elite scoring guard to replace Romeo, 4) replace the hypothetical transfer void.

  • HoosierStuckInKY

    Zion Williamson is a manchild. 6’6″ 270lbs. I do think he’s a bit overrated though. He’s able to use his frame to bully other high school players. Not blaming him–I would definitely do the same–but I think he’ll have a harder time doing that in college.

  • HoosierStuckInKY

    No need to guess on the scholarship numbers. Scroll up, click on the Scholarships link. On mobile: tap Menu, tap Scholarships. The work is done for you!

  • N71

    Agree but that’s static information without any prognostication…trying to add some color.

  • Ivan Renko

    i think both classes are equally important for different reasons.

    2018: establish the foundation of Archie’s program with solid 3 or 4 year players primarily from Indiana. he hit a homerun in that regard with the players he has coming in. if/when Romeo commits, that’s Indiana’s top 3 HS players. truly an accomplishment to be applauded after the program couldn’t grab a single Indiana HS player 3 straight years prior (gelon doesn’t count)

    2019: bring in top talent to assimilate to the culture established by the 2018 class. it’s crazy that Archie has us in as favorable position as possible with TJD and Keion Brooks so quickly. if we even get one of those two (i’m sure we will), that’s Archie hauling in at least 3 or 4 of the top 5 players to come out of Indiana in just his first two seasons. what a feat.

  • HoosierDawg

    Haha. I was thinking the same thing-he must be pretty old for his class…

  • Mark Bando

    Does anyone have any insight into how these rankings are done? I’m just curious. How are the players scouted and by whom?

  • John D Murphy

    Love Mann’s handle. He looks like the real deal. Carton sometimes looks down if he is getting ready for a fancy move. Ramsey seems a little less polished than the other two but has great length and power.

  • RonMlarkey

    Ed Schilling deserves a lot of credit for getting the Hoosiers back on track with the in state recruiting.

  • Hoosier Hall

    Couldn’t agree more. He’s been able to plug Archie in with all the prominent coaches and scouts. Connections man, it’s all about connections.

  • Hoosier Hall

    I think he has major bust potential. He has no jump shot. Reminds me a lot of Cliff Alexander a few years ago.

  • sarge

    Carton has a bit of a loose handle for a pg, similar to that of a sg. Not crazy about Ramsey yet, but there is a lot of potential there. Mann looks great, would love to have him in the candies.

  • Sherronhasaheadache

    in Archie i trust!! reel em in and GO HOOSIERS!

  • ’11Hoosier

    From my understanding, the majority of the evaluations occur during the summer when the AAU circuit is going on. There simply aren’t enough scouts to go around to local high schools and players are competing against the best in the country. Prep schools also tend to get more attention than local high schools.

    I listened to a podcast about college football recruiting and one of my main takeaways was to focus less on number ranking and more on stars. The difference between a 5 star and a 4 star is material but the difference between the #45 player and the #82 player that are both four stars is less significant.

    It’s like grading an NFL team’s draft right after it happened. It may look good on paper but what the player does on the team is a true measure of a team’s draft success.

  • Ivan Renko

    i agree with you.

  • Mark Bando

    Thats good info, thanks. It makes me wonder just how many times these ranking places can see each player if they are covering the whole country and all the top players. Im guessing their sample size for many of them is small. Good point on concentrating on stars and not actual rank.

  • Mark Bando

    Apparently our former point guard coach sees the importance of recruiting point guards.

  • HoosierMumma

    I used to coach middle school basketball in the north central Florida area, and saw Mann at a tournament once. The kid’s been good for a while although he was only about 5’7″ when I saw him play. He is quick but not particularly fast and has some sneaky athleticism.

  • StudentHoosier

    Alex – I believe in the fourth paragraph you accidentally left out naming Romeo Langford.

  • SCHoosier

    Mann..crafty and quick. Ramsey..power & poise. Carton–.some of both.

  • Ole Man

    That’s hilarious! Thumbs up!

  • TomJameson

    You can see clearly on the scholarships tag at the top of this page. Barring any transfers, at this point there will be only 3 scholarships available for 2019. Romeo doesn’t really factor into 2019 since he will only be here for 2018. For any transfer or early out to the pros, add another opening.

    Statistically, there will probably be one transfer out, but I hope not. Doesn’t seem to be any for 2018, and hopefully it’ll continue to 2019. And it doesn’t necessarily have to be a transfer, it can be somebody leaving early for a pro career.

    Edit** a grad transfer with more than one year of eligibility would change that as well, by taking up one spot for the 2019 class.

  • Mark Bando

    Yes, or close to it. He likes that size for defense.

  • Yep, really long and athletic guys who can close out and cover the perimeter. And it helps when shooting over defenders. If Archie hadn’t been a short PG himself, he’d probably only pick taller PGs as well.

  • IU track Alumni

    Can’t disagree with what you’re saying. I’m just looking from a National Championship perspective. 2018 is setting the foundation but 2019 could push us into the conversation. Another high level PG and a dominant Forward is all we need for a title run in 2019-20 if the roster stays besides Romeo of course.

  • Lance76

    I like the idea of 2 ball handlers/shooters on the floor at one time. There were times when Yogi played that if he were injured, there would not be a great 2nd option.

  • Mark Bando

    I like having the versatility of having that option and the coach using it where appropriate depending on who we are playing and the game situation.

  • marcusgresham

    I always think of Corliss Williamson. Now, he was able to create a place for himself in the NBA, but he was nowhere near as dominant physically as he had been in college. Jerome Lane was kind of the same story.

  • marcusgresham

    Schilling should be particularly valuable in regards to Brooks.

  • marcusgresham

    I was wondering if their mascot is an indian, construction worker, cop, motorcycle rider, or soldier.

  • BruceA

    The Mann kid is impressive!

  • I’m starting to suspect that PG is the only position where Archie recruits anyone who’s under 6’5″.

  • coachv

    jerome lane. another reason i want to kill bill rafferty

  • Senor

    Reminds me a lot of Hanner Parea!

  • IUMIKE1

    Was fairly surprised that he left Alford and the west coast for the job he has now, even with this being familiar territory for him. Maybe he seen early, behind the scenes evidence of a ship starting to take on water ? Of course putting up with the Ball family would be enough to make just about anyone pull up and move far away, even if they wasnot going to be around anymore. Probably one of those, I’ll never be able to mentally forget that part. LOL