At the buzzer: Wisconsin 71, Indiana 61

  • 01/02/2018 9:05 pm in

Quick thoughts on a 71-61 loss to the Badgers:

How it happened: Wisconsin, which already had three home losses by double digits this season, looked vulnerable going into this game. The Badgers are currently without three of their top four guards and have several walk-ons in the rotation. And for a half, it appeared Indiana might have a chance to win in the Kohl Center for the first time since 1998. But Indiana’s 33-30 halftime lead would quickly be erased as the Badgers beat the Hoosiers like a drum after intermission. Wisconsin scored a ridiculous 1.28 points per possession in the second half and Indiana had no answer for Ethan Happ. When the dust settled in Madison, the Hoosiers were saddled with their fourth road loss of the season (in four tries) and serious questions about their effort and fight, particularly in the second half. Wisconsin won most of the game’s 50-50 balls and outscored the Hoosiers 15-4 on second chance points. The road won’t get any easier from here, either, as Indiana’s road trip will continue on Saturday in Minneapolis.

Standout performer: Collin Hartman snapped out of his slump and finished with a career-high 18 points. Hartman shot 6-of-10 from the field and also had four rebounds in 32 minutes.

Statistics that stands out: Wisconsin outscored Indiana by nine at the free throw line and by nine from beyond the 3-point line. Wisconsin shot 7-of-15 on 3s and 18-of-24 from the free throw line.

Final IU individual stats:

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  • IU Hoosiers # 34, 1979-83

    eville, not sold yet on Davis being soft because he just isn’t playing well. I get what you mean but it seems that he is helpless on defense because of no help whatsoever before players get down low. Senior guards I’m there with you. Not trying to nit pick just mho.

  • I’m very excited about the players he’s recruited for next season. This season is painful, and really we shouldn’t be surprised at all.

  • eville87

    It’s ok I had high hopes for him this year. He just doesn’t demand the ball. Reminds me of Andre Patterson back in the day.

  • IU Hoosiers # 34, 1979-83

    It really is bizarre on all of this. I thought we would play lights out with him and Juwan, McSwain down low. Complete opposite. Nothing down low is working smoothly consistently.

  • eville87

    Mcswain can’t catch the ball seriously why not play Smith and Moore? If were going to lose at least let them get some experience

  • IU Hoosiers # 34, 1979-83

    Great point. Take care and stay warm. Deep freeze here in Chicago so far for 13 days. 5 more to go!

  • HoosierPat

    Yeah but lately we’ve seen a lot of Crean kids not pan out. But that’s one of the reasons he’s gone.

  • Todd Lindeman

    Honestly im completely ok with losing ball games but the lack of inspiration and fight disgust me.. I dont blame coach for that the players have to want it and they came out in the second half with nothing w the exception of hartman

  • Mark Bando

    Very hard to watch. No fight and low basketball IQ. I dont look forward to the games anymore either.

  • inadvertentelbows_stillhurt

    All I see is these kids tuning the yelling out.. the kids on this team won’t respond to that.. I foresee rapid tranfers at years end ..another struggle year to make NCAA’s ..then in the 3rd year you guys finally realizing Duquesne, LaSalle & St Bonaventure is far from the B1G

  • hgdownunder

    What was he supposed to do? Tell them he wasn’t really interested in these soft players?

  • E Foy McNaughton

    The same players were in full zombie mode last year about this time of the season on. They lack intensity and focus and never have learned what level of Focus they need to be B1G players. I just hate that the sophomores and freshman have been exposed to it.

  • IU Hoosiers # 34, 1979-83

    Agreed Todd. Well stated. Take care.

  • Iumick22

    Nail biter n the hef

  • Jonny McClain

    dakich makes my ears bleed when he calls the games… and somehow he seems to be on the call for every IU game – smh.

  • 3AM Burrito

    I totally get the ‘not his players’ argument, but when ‘not his players’ are more talented than the other team, then coaching should impact and win the games or at least not get blown out by double digits. ‘Not his players’ took Duke to wire and beat ND, so they are capable. I don’t expect to be contenders this year, but some of the losses and way we have lost, to say it is just all the players or they are not trying, that is not reality. Lavall Jordan used ‘not his players’ to blow out the number 1 team in the country. Through this point in season, don’t see what great coaching impact Archie has had. Turnovers still awful and the strategy to give up a bunch of threes but don’t make any doesn’t seem like a great one.

  • 3AM Burrito

    If one is to argue Archie is implementing his style, whether IU loses or wins, it is his style over winning, then yes I would have expected there would be more than one player he told he wasn’t interested. He definitely recruited the freshman, they are his, not other coach, he could have let then walk. So why are they not playing heavy minutes? They are as close to ‘his players’ as he has got, so if it is his way or highway, which that is fine, then stick those three in heavy rotation and lets see it, coach them up get experience this year build for next.

  • RonG

    You are absolutely correct! Temper won that battle. I did,however, have an extra glass of wine to stay up and watch Kansas lose. And I agree w/ comment on Arch. When you really like BB though this team is hard to
    watch. Please grant me that!

  • 3AM Burrito

    Patterson was a great shooter and played in NBA, but agree demeanor is similar. Deron has no jumper which hurts him and is just not explosive. He is like a lesser Kevin McHale, great footwork and post moves. Doesn’t rebound or defend consistently well for his size. I think he can be a high end post score presence, needs to develop a face up jumper.

  • 3AM Burrito

    The players appreciate your support.

  • 3AM Burrito

    Why didn’t he sub them all out if the effort was poor?

  • TomJameson

    Indiana shot 10 free throws …. Wisconsin shot 24

  • hgdownunder

    Having gone through one “cupboard bare” coaching change, I can sympathize with not wanting everyone to go. He had to see if he could work with them.

  • Ole Man

    It’s not mine to grant as everyone has to rant once in a while! LOL!
    That extra glass of wine or beer does take the edge off, doesn’t it?
    It is difficult at times, but I remember that I have fewer games left to watch in front of me and that helps me back off and enjoy it for what it is. A game.

  • IU Coop

    Love that…unfortunately, not many players from Indiana on this team. Coach Miller will get them but it will take time.

  • RonG

    AMEN! I’m 75 and should do the same i.e., enjoy it for what it is-a game.

  • calbert40

    Many of us were warning those who thought we were going to be a 25 win team and challenge for a B1G title to slow down. We have a new coach whose scheme is entirely different than the previous coach (who was here for a decade), the roster is designed to fit the old scheme instead of the new one, AND our three best players left school.

    I’m surprised that anyone is surprised by this. This is what we should have expected from this year’s team. The future is very bright, but this year is going to be a long slog.

  • calbert40

    I’m not surprised by any of this. I think the perimeter D will get better, but I think what we are seeing is that maybe these players just aren’t overly interested in playing D? They didn’t play it under Crean, and now they are struggling with it under Archie. I think the O is completely fine, and that’s what I was more concerned with coming into the year.

    This team is going to win games they shouldn’t, and lose games they shouldn’t…but I don’t think last night was either of those things. I expected this team to lose at Wisconsin. On the whole, I’m impressed with Archie, though.

  • Koko

    I completely believe in Archie too.

  • calbert40

    It was a trying year for my buddy, but in the long run, it worked out. I decided to look up his record at that school after the first year: 125-42, .749. Including 5 sectional titles, a regional title and a state runner-up in the top class in Indiana. Average season was 18-6. And they played a TOUGH schedule too.

  • calbert40

    Every single time at Kohl. Every time.

  • Vernon Aldrich

    Gotta love that Home Cookin’! It seems we had better “chefs” at Assembly Hall when RMK was coaching…Why was that?

  • Vernon Aldrich

    “Weave and Heave”… too perfect.

  • TomJameson

    Haha … That’s why it’s called the “call” center.

  • Vernon Aldrich

    Thanks for sharing. I’m sure Archie – from a purely coaching point of view – would have preferred to start with a blank slate, but, you probably know better than I do, the myriad of reasons why he didn’t… I’m all in.

  • Frankly, I don’t think this roster is even a good fit for the old scheme, given how it performed last season (with TB and JBJ on hand). I wasn’t expecting greatness this season, but I was hopeful of competence — I definitely put on some blinders in thinking the team that lost so badly to Georgia Tech was suddenly going to sprout wings and take off. I wasn’t thinking we’d win anything, including the B1G, but I was hoping we’d be a strong NIT team by the end of the season. That’s still possible, but I do fear that the lack of competitive fire in this team is something that’s simply not going to resolve without fresh blood.

  • mctravis2

    100% agreed, but he does provide some good bball insight. I’d still prefer to watch the tv on mute with the radio on and listen to Don Fischer

  • Ole Man

    Amen! Hard to get it to sync up sometimes, but worth the effort when ya can get it to work.

  • Ole Man

    LOL!

  • Ole Man

    And so reported for being so childish and immature.
    Take that nonsense to the dark side of the internet where you’re obviously more comfortable.

  • Vernon Aldrich

    To CONSISTENTLY overcome…

  • kelton drewery

    You’re a pitiful little person.

  • calbert40

    I thought we’d be an NIT team that might challenge for a NCAA berth, and that still may be what this team is capable of. They beat ND, and played Duke tough. This roster is inconsistent just like it was under Crean. I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a LOT of turnover this offseason.

  • Yep, that’s where I was as well (in my objective predictions, not my overly-optimistic, irrationally exuberant predictions). I’m not sure if I still think we’ll improve enough to be a competitive NIT team — the roster just might not have that kind of mental toughness.

    Great point about off-season turnover. I wouldn’t have thought so coming into the season, but I think it’s entirely possible that some of our players just don’t like Archie’s competitive spirit. He might be asking things of some of them that they don’t really want to give.

  • Kwang

    They way you sync it is to listen to whcc105 .com, their live radio player is pauseable.

  • Ole Man

    Thanks!
    Send me a PM in the forum or I’ll forget. LOL!

  • Kwang

    I usually post it in every game thread, but I will make sure to remind you, cause I know you’re old 🙂 HAW!

  • Tyler D

    We didn’t have a guard make a three against Wiscy. 4-15 from deep. All four of those coming from Hartman. Don’t expect to win if the guards can’t put the ball in the basket when they get good looks.

  • HoosierPat

    I’ll support this team until the end but I’m also not gonna sit here and sugar coat the obvious.