POTB 187: Gary Parrish on expectations for Archie Miller

  • 08/03/2017 8:19 am in

Podcast on the Brink is back for a new episode with host Jerod Morris of The Assembly Call. The show is available weekly.

In this edition of the show, Alex is away on vacation but Gary Parrish of CBS Sports is here to provide a national perspective on Archie Miller, Indiana’s 2017-18 team, and the Big Ten as a whole.

Among the topics discussed:

· A few tidbits about Parrish’s podcast Eye on College Basketball
· Why getting the three 4-star commits was so big for Archie and Indiana
· Why Parrish doesn’t even consider the possibility that Archie Miller won’t be a great fit at Indiana
· What reasonable expectations should be for the 2018 and 2019 recruiting classes, as well as for the 2017-18 season, and Archie’s tenure overall
· Why the Big Ten is down and how it can recover
· Why Michigan State is a legit contender for preseason #1 team in America
· Parrish’s surprise at the IU-Arizona series coming together so quickly (and why he wouldn’t schedule it)
· Tom Crean’s future and where Parrish thinks he’ll end up coaching

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  • Hoosier89

    I really like Gary, but I disagree on his perception of the talent level of last year’s team.

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    i think GP laid down some harsh truths. this year’s team has some talent, has some nice pieces. but unless someone steps up in a major, unexpected way (cujo? dg? d’rd?), it’s really just a team of complementary players.

    i disagree with GP’s opinion that TC shouldn’t have been fired. of course all non-IU cbb fans disagree, but that’s not a valid argument. they haven’t suffered through game after game of head-scratching turnovers, historically awful defense, and the uber-embarrassing cue cards. he can cite the injuries all he wants, but these problems (cue cards aside) have been persistent for several years. still, take the on court issues, sprinkle in all the off court stuff that went on, he’d still probably have a job today if his recruiting hadn’t gone down the toilet (with local talent, in particular). once again, i have to remind myself to stop dwelling on the past. looking forward, it’s great to hear what he and all the other experts have to say about CM. can’t wait to see what this team looks like under the new regime, whether or not they make it to march madness.

  • I think that generally speaking, there are few fanbases who pay attention to the fundamentals like IU fans do.

  • Lance76

    Completely agree. I have often thought that CM playing point for a school like NCS will be of great benefit along with his dad being a coach that was apparently well disciplined and respected.

  • Archie is the perfect coach for the IU fanbase given his focus on fundamentals and defense. He’s a brilliant X’s and O’s coach, and he’s answering any questions about his ability to recruit at a high level. Toss in his picks of assistant coaches — with Coach Marshall being a surprise win — and there’s no doubt that Archie is one of only a few coaches available who had a chance of making IU fans happy.

  • Interesting comment about the IU-Arizona series. I think it misses the point about the Millers — these guys are 1) intensely competitive and 2) smart basketball program managers. They see the value in the matchup from an SOS basis and it’s also a great story. Plus, I’ll bet they talked and they’re looking forward to matching up against each other. And who knows, maybe Dad told them to get it done because he wants to see his sons coaching against each other.

  • iugradmark

    I think his review of the team is pretty accurate from what is known. A lot of things have to go right. Players have to stay healthy (some who haven’t been able to do that in the past), players have to make jumps or improvement, the entire team has to learn a new system on offense and defense… I wear my crimson colored glasses and believe that these things will happen but when I hear how we are viewed from outsiders, it isn’t hard to see that their assessment makes sense.

    Regarding Coach Crean, again I think this is the outside view of the program. You have to be closer to see what was not working. Finally, I think other than IU, OSU did a very good job getting a really good coach at an awkward time of the year. We will likely have a lot of battles moving forward on the floor and in the recruiting arena.

  • iugradmark

    Forgot to say thank you to Jerod for another good interview. Gary was a really good choice to have on the podcast.

  • Stourley Kracklite

    I love Tom Crean for coming to Bloomington and pulling out of the fire. But he achieved as much as he was going to, for the reasons WhatsUp (nice reference) calls out here. If Miller wasn’t all in then option #2 ought to have been to stick with TC. But Miller, as he is demonstrating, is option #1.

  • Thank you Mark.

  • sarge

    I have a business partner who is a UK fan and even he thought it was time for IU to move on from CTC. It does take some luck along with a lot of skill, but IU fans generally know basketball inside and out. It was becoming evident to most fans that his coaching had flaws and many did not think he could win another banner. That is what every elite program aspires to, greatness. GP and others want to believe that the college game is about much more than winning, but it is what makes the programs. The ultimate goal is a banner. Not just for IU, but for any school. Sure there are other things that make a team great. But the biggest factor is winning and winning it all. Of course CTC should have been fired, and it was a disappointment only because he did so much for the school and community and everyone wanted him to be the guy that brought us back to the top of the mountain.

  • sarge

    These guys are competitors. They want to compete against the best. The sibling rivalry between these guys is real! I agree, love the SOS improvement. I don’t see the negatives here. It is a winwinwinwinwin imo.