POTB 173: Recruiting, Tuesday’s press conference and more

  • 04/26/2017 4:09 pm in

Podcast on the Brink is back for a new episode with host Jerod Morris of The Assembly Call. The show is available weekly.

In this edition of the show, Morris and Inside the Hall editor Alex Bozich discuss a busy last week with recruiting and Tuesday’s interviews with the coaching staff.

Among the topics discussed:

· The adidas Gauntlet last weekend in Dallas
· Romeo Langford’s recruitment
· The importance of in-state recruits in the 2018 class
· Takeaways from Tuesday’s press conference comments
· De’Ron Davis and the improvements he needs to make this offseason
· IU’s backcourt for next season and specifically, Devonte Green
· Whether the guards will be better under Archie Miller
· Other player comments and what stood out
· A few thoughts on the ESPN layoffs and the industry

And much, much more. As always, feel free to drop the show a note at [email protected].

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  • iugradmark

    Thanks guys. Really appreciate your thoughts and insights. Regarding the roster, I guess we will know soon enough but something tells me that we are still in for a surprise or two regarding transfers. Probably the most surprising possibility to me is that JBJ may return. I never thought he would consider staying and he still may leave but it seems like it is closer to a coin flip now.

    Your point on how open the coaches are also hit home. I have really been frustrated with the lack of communication and mostly hostile nature that Crean had for the press. Indiana fans are starved for information and if you want to position the program for the future, you need some positive publicity.

  • Piker

    Honestly I do not see any difference with coaches and in state player offerings vs out of state offerings. All the top schools go after the good players. TC did well early then somewhere along the line he lost the in state guys as far as commitments go. Archie is offering guys in and out I don’t see a big difference in the offers. Hopefully Archie can get the in state guys that TC failed to do in his final 3 or 4 years. Hopefully they commit early so we are an in state place otherwise it will be what it. Someone out of state commits to your position oh well I will go elsewhere. We just re-up the offer TC gave to King. It’s up to the Indiana kids to see a positive change in IU and the desire to stay home and be a local legend that tops going elsewhere. IMHO.

  • Arch Puddington

    Winning is always the big thing, but connecting with the fans matters. CTC is a good man, but was never beloved. There is something Midwestern about CM, something straightforward and clear that CTC did not possess. He has to win at some point — and by “win” I mean top 5 rankings, Final Fours, and legitimate shots at national championships — but he will be well received by fans while he builds towards that.

  • SCHoosier

    Appreciate all that TC did..but I always had the feeling that he was “selling” at his media conferences. Arch on the other hands seems to me to be “telling” at his media sessions. Subtle but important difference the way I see it.

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    perfectly stated. i think a lot of people picked up on that, not least of which, the recruits. and it was starting to get old, especially as the sales pitch progressed further and further from the actual quality of the product.

  • Bill Graham

    In regards to recruiting:

    One of the things that has frustrated about CAM is that he has targeted guys that are lower ranked. Sure he’s going after Langford but thats primarily because he’s in our backyard and Arch is obligated to (you don’t see him pursuing any other top 10 kids). I’ve wondered if he was still stuck in the mold of pursuing Dayton type recruits (typically 75 – 200 ranked kids).

    But the more I think about it…CAM is actually taking a really good approach to recruiting so far…. Let’s be honest, our lack of recent tournament success has set us back in terms of recruiting against blue bloods like DUKE, UK, Kansas, UNC, UCLA, MSU etc. etc. etc…so why would Miller jump right in and try to recruit the top tier players??? Sure the allure of a new and promising coach is nice… but UNC, Duke, And UK have had either consistent tournament success or have been NBA factories.

    So Miller is making the smart choice…by recruiting guys that may be lower ranked but fill a niche in his offense (EX: Clifton Moore or Robbie Carmody as a stretch 4) he will be able to secure players that fit his offense and will STAY for 4 years…..Its pretty much statistically proven that rosters full seniors and juniors have much greater season and post season success. For example, Gonzaga and UNC both played at least 5 juniors and seniors for over 20 mins a game…Miller mentioned it in his conference…but he basically said that consistently having experienced seniors is crucial to long term success.

    Last point: Many schools can recruit highly ranked players by simply having a good roster of juniors and seniors in place….Sure for some its appealing to go Kensucky style and play with the best players regardless of their age… But other recruits want to win banners, not just future NBA checks…Josh Jackson choose to play with Kansas and enter a starting lineup with all juniors and seniors. Tony Bradley went to UNC even though they already had Meeks (Jr) and Hicks (Sr)…
    The point is: if Miller can age and develop his underclassmen (Devonte Green, De’ron Davis, Justin Smith) he can build a core of future (to be) seniors that can give him a platform to secure top level future recruits.

  • VAHoosier

    I had the same impression. I didn’t use the term “selling,” but I always had the sense the Crean had some sort of inferiority complex, as though he was desperate to show media/fans that he knew a lot about basketball (in spite of the fact that his team often played as though he didn’t). Not at all the case with Archie, who always seems self-possessed.

  • VAHoosier

    Alex, any idea when ITH will have a ’18 recruiting board up?

  • iugradmark

    The tip top of the recruits know they are going to play wherever they go. Lots of things enter into the equation as to where they end up. Exposure through TV and playing “big” games, how easy is it for family to get to the games to see them, success rate in getting to the NBA, etc. What Archie has for the next year is going to be more important to kids that are outside of the top ranked players. He has playing time. Lots of openings after this year so if you want playing time at a Major program, IU has something to talk about.


    Good point.

  • cbags05

    No knock on the work you guys do, but see if you can get coach John Miller on every week.

    Jokes aside, this recruiting battle is going to get very interesting for Romeo. I don’t think losing him breaks our system, but man alive if we get him what a statement that would be, as Alex put it.