Notes and quotes from Tuesday’s availability with Archie Miller and IU’s assistant coaches

  • 04/25/2017 2:20 pm in

Archie Miller, Tom Ostrom, Ed Schilling and Bruiser Flint met with the media on Tuesday afternoon in the Spirit of ’76 room at Simon Skjodt Assembly Hall.

Here are notes and quotes from what Miller and all three assistants had to say in their first extensive sit down with the media:

· Miller said the staff’s first interactions with prospects and coaches around the state were all positive. Although he can’t speak in specifics about recruiting, Miller acknowledged that the new coaching staff has spent a lot of time around the state in the last month.

· Miller said he was very pleased that the entire 2017 recruiting class opted to stay with the Hoosiers. “All the kids and the families love Indiana,” he said.

· He mentioned keeping that class intact as being important for a variety of reasons, but did talk at length about getting balance with each recruiting class in terms of numbers as a major reason keeping all three in the fold was important.

· Miller said that Collin Hartman wants to have a “better finish” in his IU career and has committed to staying in Bloomington all summer. So far, Hartman has been in workouts but isn’t getting any contact. Miller said there’s no rush to bring Hartman back as “the goal is November.”

· Miller said all three guys who have declared for the NBA draft without an agent have received feedback and are ready to dive into the process. All three guys should learn soon whether they’ll be invited to next month’s NBA draft combine in Chicago.

· Miller said it’s time for De’Ron Davis to get aggressive about getting better. He said Davis could be one of the most improved players in college basketball next season. Davis will be on campus all summer.

· Miller said Devonte Green reminds him of some players he coached at Dayton in that he’s physical and can get the ball to the rim.

· Miller called James Blackmon Jr. the “best shooter I’ve been around.”

· Miller said Robert Johnson has shot the ball well in workouts this spring.

· Miller said Josh Newkirk has a “great character level” and is a “tremendous worker.”

· Miller on Juwan Morgan: “He has a chance to be a special player.” Also referred to Morgan as a breakout candidate and said that he “fits how we play.”

· Keys for De’Ron Davis: Getting his body and motor ready to go. He needs to be able to play 25 minutes or more without fouling. “When you guys see him in Oct, Nov., you’re gonna say, ‘Wow what happened to him?'”

· Miller isn’t anticipating that the scholarship situation – the Hoosiers are currently oversigned – being a major problem. “We’ll sort it out. We inherited it and we’ll fix it.”

· Miller on building a schedule” “This year we’ll take on a certain level of what we can pull off. Down the line, I think you’ll see a different model. You have to put yourself on a marquee stage as much as you can… Everyone we bring in here has to have great purpose.”

· Associate head coach Tom Ostrom says Miller is “unapologetic in who he is every day.” He also said Miller is “as genuine and real as it gets.”

· Ostrom said one valuable thing he learned from working under Billy Donovan is that nothing replaces hard work. He said a similarity between Donovan and Miller is that both are deep thinkers.

· Ostrom said a key to recruiting and building relationships is treating people right and with respect. In meeting coaches and people around the state so far, Ostrom said he believes that most people want Indiana to do well.

· Assistant coach Ed Schilling on being back in Indiana: “It’s been terrific. This is home for me.”

· Schilling on Miller: “He’s the finest young coach in the game.”

· Schilling said that in Indiana, high school coaches still have a big impact in recruiting and decisions that are made. It’s not like that everywhere, according to Schilling.

· Schilling said Arizona coach Sean Miller, from whom he was a best man, reached out to him to gauge interest in coming to work with Archie and things went from there.

· Schilling on John Calipari, who he worked for three different times: “There’s not a more loyal guy in the business than Cal.”

· Schilling said he remembers working with both Hartman and Zach McRoberts when they were younger guys.

· Assistant coach Brusier Flint said he came to Indiana because he believes in Archie and that he “can get it done.”

· Keys to winning, according to Flint: “Defense, rebound and take care of the ball.”

· Flint says his relationship with Calipari is “more than just basketball.”

· One thing Flint and Calipari agree on when it comes to building a team: If you don’t have a post presence, you’re a little bit of a fraud.

· Flint said one of the main reasons he wanted to get back into coaching is that the kids give him energy. “I missed that last year.”

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  • Nick

    Very telling as he wasn’t mentioned anywhere… Bryant could be gone.

  • Well, golly. I just keep getting more and more excited. Honestly, I don’t think there was a better option than Archie — and I mean that to include everybody discussed as a possible new coach.

  • TB wasn’t in the squad picture that was posted today on Twitter. I think it’s a foregone conclusion at this point, although I still hope to be surprised.

  • inLinE6

    Thanks Alex. Any news about Trendon Watford? I know we have watched and reached out to him over the weekend.

  • inLinE6

    Didn’t mention Jones, Gelon, or Priller either. Is that an indication?

  • IULore

    It’s an indication they are not on the same level of importance as Bryant.

  • VAHoosier

    Especially in light of the amount and nature of comments on Deron.

  • pcantidote

    There was a team picture floating around yesterday on facebook that Bryant wasn’t in either.

  • TomEke

    Thought I’d look into that JBJ is the “best shooter he has been around” comment with regards to who else is in that conversation. A few notables Archie coached:

    Jon Diebler 2007-2009 at Ohio State — Holds the Ohio HS scoring record (took it from LeBron James) and went on to break the B1G Career 3PT record 2 years after Archie left OSU.
    Derrick Williams 2009-2011 at Arizona — Shot 57% from 3PT as sophomore before going 2nd in NBA draft in 2011.

    I’m hoping this is a sign JBJ will be returning, as I’m excited, and I think Archie is too, to see what JBJ can do in Archie’s system.

  • pcantidote

    I guess we are all going to have to get over our Calipari hatred. Doesn’t mean the UK hatred can’t continue on at full strength though!

    If TB is leaving the decision is based on pure emotion, which we have come to expect and love about TB. There is no logical argument for him to try for the NBA now when further development could potentially put him in a much better position down the road.

  • pcantidote

    I really believe that JBJ showed a willingness last year to be more of a team player on offense and make improvements on defense. I really think he could blossom under Arch.

  • Fivelefts

    Very excited about the things I’ve read today! Thanks Alex! I loved what coach said about Davis! I really want him to be the stud, we all anticipated him to be! Also, I saw in an interview with Al, that he was hanging out with Trindan Watford.. Al said, he was working on trying to get him to come to IU. Watford said that he has been contacted by Archie.. I’m pretty stoked! I’m just praying for no injuries..

  • SCHoosier

    Given the tight relationship between Coach Cal and the Millers..I’d say u are correct.

  • Mark Bando

    Since we haven’t heard anything about the non NBA declared guys like Green, Davis and Morgan transferrring, is it just assumed they are staying or will they be making announcements on that at some point

  • Chris Perkins

    Never You will never convince me that Calipari is a good dude. He has a long way to go to get to good. He’s dirty, plain and simple.

  • Arch Puddington

    He is a not-very-good individual defender who was taught by a not-very-good defensive coach to play in a not-very-good defensive system. Give him better instruction and place him in a better system, and he will surely improve. Not all-world or defensive POY, but better. I’d count on it.

  • Arch Puddington

    Should we be critical of him? Sure. He has undermined some of the very traditions that have made college basketball great, like Indiana vs. Kentucky, home and home, and has turned others on their heads, like openly preferring NBA draft success to team success.

    Should we resent him? Sure. He’s a showboat, and he wins more than we do. What’s not to hate about that?

    Should we blame him for the mercenary state of college basketball? Not really. He may be the guy who has most taken advantage of the “one-and-done” system, but he didn’t make the rules. He’s just better than others at working them. The NBA and NCAA are responsible for the system itself.

    Burt is he dirty? There is zero evidence of that. Kelvin Sampson’s texts were a bigger “crime” than anything Calipari has done. Roy Williams, Rick Pitino, and Jim Boeheim have all had massively worse things happen under their regimes, including lurid sex scandals and the biggest academic fraud in NCAA history. Nothing that happened at UMass or Memphis was related to him, and anyone who thinks he has to cheat to get players at Kentucky is kidding themselves. Players line up to play there. He has turned his program into the ultimate affirmation of elite status, and other than Coach K there is no one who can consistently compete with him.

    He’s a recruiter par excellence, and a glory hound who never met a camera he didn’t like. But those things aren’t crimes, and he’s no dirtier than any other coach.

  • Jeff Isom

    He did some wonderful things for a young man who suffered a stroke as a teenager. The kid was a lifetime Kentucky fan, suffered a crippling stroke at 16. Calipari had him as a UK manager, texted him mom when there were problems, and gave this kid and his family hope. I don’t care for him either, but what he did for this kid was amazing. Everyone has something good inside of them.

  • adam

    nice post on cal.

    i think the worst thing you could really accuse him of as far as the what happened in the past is being willfully ignorant. its a stretch to even accuse him of that in my opinion.

    otherwise hes a good coach and a great recruiter that is playing the system in place to a T.

  • IdahoHoosier

    Bryant wasn’t mentioned. Those 3 guys weren’t mentioned. How does that indicate they aren’t on the same level of importance as Bryant?

  • John D Murphy

    Well said. I share your opinion fully. If JBJ comes back, I will have zero concern about his defense costing us enough for it to be impactful.

  • John D Murphy

    Probably better (or worse I guess) than 50 / 50

  • IULore

    The original point was that the future of TB with the team was not being discussed, though others including Deron were discussed in detail. Most think TB is gone.

  • IdahoHoosier

    Agreed. Inline was comparing those NOT mentioned to Bryant (also not mentioned). That would indicate, if it indicates anything at all, that those players and Bryant are at the same importance level.

  • Ole Man

    Excellent post.
    I slightly disagree in that no one knows if he’s dirty.
    He doesn’t have to be the bag man himself at pUKe. Others can do the dirty work for him and he can do a “plausible deniability” dance. I’d think that’s probably closer to the truth.

  • John D Murphy

    Just to be pedantic… The IU-UK series has featured (including NCAA games) 28 games in either Bloomington or Lexington and 29 games in other cities. It isn’t really a home-and-home series. TC was just as stubborn as Cal in killing the series. In fact, if I recall correctly, Cal offered to have the game in Indy all the time (which should favor IU).

  • Arch Puddington

    I’m there, too.Whatever I thought in advance, he is showing himself at every turn to be a nearly perfect fit. And not just because of x’s and o’s. I think he is a great fit culturally, one who will be a great mix of old-school sensibility with new-school skills.

  • “…one who will be a great mix of old-school sensibility with new-school skills.” Yep.

  • iugradmark

    There really doesn’t seem to be much of a penalty for doing things wrong. Coaches can move on, programs can win championships, etc. Until the NCAA decides it wants to clean things completely up, they won’t. As long as there is this much money in the system, they will look the other way, especially for certain programs.

  • TomJameson

    “Miller said all three guys who have declared for the NBA draft without an agent have received feedback and are ready to dive into the process. All three guys should learn soon whether they’ll be invited to next month’s NBA draft combine in Chicago.”

    TB is one of the three … Doubt anybody really knows anything yet. What can Archie say, hope he comes back? 🙂

    Personally, I think TB is going to go pro … but I’m not yet ready to read something into the fact that nothing was said. On the premium forum not too long ago, there were quite a few pages of debate over the single word “no”. Hahahaha … we fans can create a debate over nothing.

  • Doug Wilson

    Davis was one of the first to say he was happy at IU.

  • marcusgresham

    The argument to that would be that he was taught for 18 years by a guy who was known for his defense.
    Not disputing what you say, but trying to keep a perspective (and I did see improvements this year.)

  • marcusgresham

    The UMass situation I can agree with you on, but in regards to Derrick Rose I’m not so sure. First, he knew as well as everyone else that Rose, for some reason, went to Michigan to take an SAT because, apparently, even though Chicago is the 3rd largest city in the US it just wasn’t being administered there, yet he went ahead and took him with no qualms.
    I also don’t understand how there were never sanctions when Rose’s brother rode the team plane with the team, a clear violation of NCAA rules.

  • marcusgresham

    As for offering to have it in Indy all the time, that benefits Cal because Indy is a fertile recruiting ground. If it were rotating “neutral” sites like it used to be, the other option is Louisville and a.) that city doesn’t produce very many high-level players compared to Indy, b.) Kentucky gets major media coverage and is the in-state school, and c.) Kentucky usually plays a game at Freedom Hall every year anyway.

  • BigRed74

    Except for the fact that we have been absolutely terrible in Indy of late

  • Hoosier Hall

    Good point but under Crean, defense wasn’t a priority. He wanted them to get deflections and gamble the passing lanes rather than stay in front of them and make every shot difficult. He also ran confusing schemes, making the players look out-of-sorts and out of place most of the time.

  • Rick Pearson

    I really think in the days and weeks ahead we will find out Thomas Bryant will stay in the draft but that will be ok with Davis and that Clifton Moore we’re going to have decent size finally I really look for Blackmon to be a late first,or second round pick let’s face it the guy can flat-out shoot and in the NBA we all know defense is second to offense Robert Johnson is the? I really don’t see him getting drafted Indiana basketball will be awesome this coming fall possibly look for Gelon, possibly to transfer but like I said I believe Indiana basketball this fall it’s going to be awesome to watch cannot wait

  • Arch Puddington

    Perhaps we just define tradition differently.

    I came of age basketball-wise in the late ’70s; my first specific memory of IU basketball is the 1975 Regional game that Kentucky won 92-90. It was already a big home and home rivalry by then. Between 1970 and 1990, IU-UKplayed 17 times in either Bloomington or Lexington. Many of those games featured both teams ranked in the top 20, and multiple games in which both were in the top 5. My family had courtside tickets during most of those years, and those games were as big as it got, even bigger than Purdue. I once scalped two of my family’s four tickets for $500, which was an astronomical figure in those days. Throw in a few tournament games and several national championships between the two, and those years defined a tradition that is still relevant for tens of thousands of IU fans (or more!).

    Obviously things changed in the 1990’s, both because the series moved to Indy/Louisville and because IU fell off the map. But the home and home tradition was renewed in 2006, and by the time of the Watshot — a game that will help define IU basketball for a new generation of fans — it was already in its sixth year.

    So, yeah, I’d say that the home and home thing is a big tradition. And make no mistake, it was Kentucky that killed that tradition. That they have kept home and home with Louisville and started new ones with UCLA and Kansas since then just makes the point. IU even offered a compromise — 2 games at big venues, then home and home every four years. They turned it down because Cal does not want to give IU the satisfaction of what he knows perfectly well is a big deal dating back decades.

  • Arch Puddington

    Well said all around. See my post above for a personal take on the topic of the home and home rivalry.

  • John D Murphy

    Thanks for the robust response Arch. I was just pointing out that home/home isn’t quite as deep as most people think (averaging only 14 on each campus).

    Also, I have very fond memories of attending IU-UK in the old Hoosier Dome with ~20k red and ~20k blue. It was a lot of fun.

    I won’t defend Cal further or argue about who killed the series. I’m ok with the pause probably more than most fans. Again, thanks for the reply.

  • Arch Puddington

    “Robust.” A nice way of saying “long-winded”!

    Anyway, good exchange.


    You know that we usually see things pretty much the same, but I just can’t bring myself to view ” him ” like you do by any stretch (I’m more of the Ole Man comment frame of mind on this one), but I couldn’t agree more with this comment and all excellent points.

  • Arch Puddington

    Well, exception proves the rule, right?

    Make no mistake, I’m not a fan. I think he is willing to tear down the very things that make his job relevant. In a certain sense he is just the world’s most sophisticated AAU coach: a gun for hire who doesn’t care about traditions or institutions, just his own glory.

    But as awful as that makes him, it doesn’t mean he is a cheat. The system itself is the problem, and it is designed to enrich and empower guys like him at the expense of the players who actually atttact our interest. He is just a guy who knows how to make the NCAA’s corruption and avarice work to his advantage.

    Or so I see it. You and I are still 99% alike even if we disagree on this one.