2017 signees Clifton Moore, Al Durham request release from Indiana

  • 03/20/2017 7:37 pm in

A pair of Indiana class of 2017 signees have asked for a release from their National Letters of Intent with Indiana.

Class of 2017 Hatboro Horsham (Pa.) forward Clifton Moore requested a release from his National Letter of Intent with Indiana, his AAU coach Jonathan Michels confirmed to Inside the Hall on Monday.

Mike Miller of The Bloomington Herald-Times was the first to report the news. Moore is ranked the 143rd best prospect nationally according to the 247Composite.

Berkmar (Ga.) guard Al Durham Jr., ranked the No. 239 prospect nationally by the 247Composite, also requested his release on Monday, his father confirmed to Inside the Hall.

“Indiana is still an option,” Durham Sr. said. “The new coach would have to recruit him.”

Recruits opting to re-open the process is not uncommon following coaching changes.

Indiana Athletic Director Fred Glass said on Thursday that the department had already reached out to all three of the signees for the 2017 class.

The Hoosiers also signed Justin Smith for 2017.

Moore and Durham are scheduled to play in the Derby Festival Basketball Classic at Freedom Hall in Louisville on Saturday, April 15.

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  • Fifer39

    Presumably there are 2 timescales. The one in which FG gets a deal done and the one where it gets announced. If we’ve not announced by May because we haven’t got a deal done, we’re in trouble.

  • HoosierStuckInKY

    And scholarship situation “works itself out” yet again.

  • INUnivHoosier2

    Not really a surprise. I hope these two guys do well wherever they land.

  • HoosierDom

    I would think Yogi and Troy would have no impact on their decision. It’s still quite rare for an undrafted guy to make the league. To let Yogi and Troy affect that decision would be to suggest that either being from crean’s IU makes you better prepared for the NBA than the NBA realizes or that there is some drafting bias against us. Both seem pretty implausible.

  • RMK

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Blackmon also had this option as a Jr. With all the summer school and high school credits these guys get, they can usually graduate pretty early. I believe Priller has also graduated.

  • N71

    Ironically I thought Crean emphasis on player development over “winning” (opinion) is what resulted in our having high draft choices and marginal team success come tourney time.

  • Chi-Town Hoosier

    He does. I heard that he is expected to use that option as well..

  • Shaggy_C

    This is pretty much it; Crean promised to use these players in specific ways in his system next year (and beyond.) Now, that promise is off the table. And that doesn’t even get into the personality thing. Why would you commit to play basketball for four years for someone who you have never met and who you may not get along with at all? I don’t blame them for keeping their options open, and I feel bad for them that they got such a raw deal when they could have committed elsewhere to programs that don’t have the short-term instability.

  • David Schwind

    Favorite Potential Coach: Donovan
    Favorite Viagra Cougar Ad Model: The Blonde in Blue Jersey

  • Fivelefts

    I think CTC had some momentum with Romeo.. I wonder if the coaching change, ruins our chance of getting him? Miller is probably the only candidate that’s being mentioned, that has recruited him? I’m not sure about that..but he would be a fool if he hasn’t! There’s some serious talent in the 2018 class!

  • SeeingRed

    Probably the opposite, with a home run hire. That kid wasn’t coming to play for Tom Crean.

  • ArghSonOfOhCrap

    Yes, it is tough for these kids and you cannot blame them I wish them all well.

  • HoosierDom

    I could see that argument as it relates to Bryant – that’s the only reason I see for him getting the ball on the perimeter so often. Not sure I see it other places though. I remember it being the opposite with Zeller.

  • N71

    I heard Dakich interviewing a high school coach from the area (Louisville) and he basically said Crean wasn’t even in Romeo’s top 10.

  • Koko


  • Koko

    Because it’s Indiana of course.

  • calbert40 – AC000000

    hahaha!!! It’s a curse, vic! When I hear or read something that seems odd, I look it up. I was almost positive that I’d heard he was at OSU last year. And trust me, I can be as douche-y as the next guy 🙂

  • Koko

    Me too but if we are getting Donovan it will be a while yet….patience grasshopper.

  • John D Murphy

    Would you guys give it up on Romeo. It is UofL or Duke.

  • John D Murphy

    What are you talking about? What did you think would happen when you fire a coach? Have you paid attention to anything related to college basketball in the last half century?

  • John D Murphy

    TB has hurt his stock, but will hurt it more by staying even with a good year. OG is still project mid first round…gone. JBJ…there is difference lost to everyone on this site between going pro and playing in the NBA. There is money to be made elsewhere and JBJ would be a fool to come back when he is so obviously injury prone. The upside for him is non-existent and the risk is huge. He should go play in Turkey or Germany or wherever and make some cash before his knees crash.

  • John D Murphy

    I have 100% confidence that we are in better position today to win next year than we were two weeks ago. Even if two 3-star recruits don’t come to IU.

  • John D Murphy

    Yeah I was thinking about that. What did we that Michigan didn’t? That rule seems like a pretty soft one. I think it is only designed to punish the little guys from getting players from big schools.

  • John D Murphy

    I haven’t been a big “TC doesn’t get enough Indiana kids” drum beater. However, the quick retreat is also a symptom that TC was recruiting to TC, not to IU. Just my opinion that Indiana kids would have been more likely to wait to see who the new coach was going to be.

  • Thank you!

  • Lance76

    I wonder if some of RJ funk was related to the reason IU changed coaches. No information, just a wild guess. What he chooses to do and how he plays may be telling.

  • John D Murphy

    That is a good analysis. JN should also be solid next year and I have faith Rob will step up. Unless we really blow the hire, then I think we are in the 2nd group behind MSU (who will be really good next year).

  • VanPastorMan

    Could be the new coach doesn’t want them because they don’t fit into his plans.

  • Zach

    He left for Illinois (a pretty lateral move imo) because they literally tripled the salary he was making at OSU

  • Zach

    Best of luck to wherever these guys end up next. Sad for them that they’re stuck in an unfortunate position but it can be used as a good opportunity for them to reevaluate. I hope they give the next Hoosier coach a chance in their recruitment.

  • TorontoHoosierFan

    Damn we’re losing the 143rd and 239th ranked players in the country! Later.

  • Ole Man

    Like the way you stated yourself.

  • John D Murphy

    He is what is going happen next year that would not have. DD will learn to play D without fouling, TO’s will drop to under 12.5/game, we won’t give up twice as many fouls as we get because we are out of position. Our guards will learn to keep someone out of the lane. We won’t be a top 3 offense against the cupcakes and then not break 70 in a crucial B1G game. We’ll be top 4 in the B1G. We’ll be better at the end of the year than the beginning.

  • Well, the stars will need to align for all that to happen _next_ season, but generally I’m with you. Lots of moving pieces, though, and so we’ll need to give the new coach some leeway in what he can accomplish his first year and without his own recruiting class(es). Even if next season is another down year, I’d rather have that as part of a rebuilding process than as merely a continuation of past poor performance.

  • TomJameson

    Don’t even know who the next coach will be.

  • TomJameson

    I think it’s always been that most kids commit to the coach, then the school. Not unusual for a player to follow the coach, or open up the recruiting process. Crean has always gotten a lot of love, respect, and loyalty from his players.

    In this day and age, don’t think Indiana kids would be much different. If they were, they would automatically be committing to IU all the time. Different era.

  • TomJameson

    You know, the way CTC recruited there is a good chance that one (or both) of these players will develop into a fantastic player. Both have already shown great improvement since their recruitment.

  • General Zod

    I don’t see how staying could hurt bryant’s stock. I have looked at several nba draft projections and i don’t know what to make of it. Both he and og are wildly all over the place. Some sites dont have either in the 1st round which is the only reason to go early. Some have bryant ahead of og and others have it the other way.
    Jbjr though, he could make a few bucks overseas but the nba isn’t in his future.

  • John D Murphy

    Agree on JBJ. And I think he needs to given his injury history. It will probably be pretty lucrative (but not by NBA standards). I just have never seen a big’s stock go up if stays after his soph year. Likely, if TB comes back for his jun yr then he would for his snr yr as well. Which makes him a t’fer candidate to follow TC. In for four years, in for five.

  • Russ Edwards

    Recruits may decommit, players may or may not transfer. Part of coaching change. Bottom line is we needed a change, and i think we got right guy. Young, hungry, and great tactician and great at developing players. If he can take a bunch of 2 and 3 star recruits to tourney then imagine what he can do with 4 and 5 star recruits. Thats the question though. Can he get elite level talent to IU to compete with the Kentuckys of the world. Im excited