Around the Hall: IU loses in NIT, but what’s next?

  • 03/15/2017 7:30 pm in

Around the Hall is recommended reading from the Inside the Hall staff.

Rick Bozich of WDRB.com writes that the spotlight in Bloomington has turned to Athletic Director Fred Glass:

Glass must make a call on the marriage between IU basketball and Tom Crean.

Either A) add another season or two to the three years remaining on Crean’s contract or B) wish Crean the best at his next coaching opportunity, after thanking him for navigating Indiana back from the Kelvin Sampson NCAA probation. (That choice comes with a $4 million buyout and coaching search.)

There is no C), D) or E).

Doing nothing results in fiascos like the one that percolated around Indiana basketball this week.

Gregg Doyel of The Indianapolis Star asks a fair question: how can Tom Crean continue to stay?

If the IU fan base is this done with coach Tom Crean’s basketball program, so done that the school is willingly sacrificing revenue by sending its bad road team onto the road, how can Tom Crean continue to stay?

Why would he want to?

Why would Indiana let him?

Mark Bradley of The Atlanta Journal Constitution writes that IU played at Georgia Tech because it feared embarrassment … and the Hoosiers lost anyway:

The fascinating part about Georgia Tech beating Indiana in the NIT on Tuesday wasn’t that Tech won. The Yellow Jackets had already beaten half-dozen teams — VCU, North Carolina, Clemson, Florida State, Notre Dame and Syracuse — better than the Hoosiers, and all except the VCU game was staged at McCamish Pavilion.

The fascinating part: Indiana chose to play this game at McCamish Pavilion.

Tech was one of the final at-large selections — a No. 6 seed — in the 32-team NIT field. Indiana was a No. 3 seed. The higher seed gets the honor of hosting. IU declined because its students were on spring break. I am not making this up.

Pete Thamel of Sports Illustrated updates the coaching carousel with a note on IU:

This is still the most intriguing question on the landscape. If Crean decides to move semi-laterally, the most logical landing spot would be Missouri. (The Tigers covet an established brand-name head coach and there’s enough history and infrastructure to win there). There’s no singular job that dictates the coaching market right now. That’s something that would change if Crean decided to leave Indiana. Crean has won two outright Big Ten titles in the past five seasons, which should be good enough to be beloved. But there’s always been a strange dynamic between Crean and Indiana, as good enough is never quiet good enough. Ultimately, if he left, it would be for a place where he’s truly wanted and appreciated by the fan base and administration.

News of Indiana’s decision to duck a home NIT game made its way to The Washington Post:

Multiple reasons were given. First, ESPN reported that Assembly Hall was being renovated. Then Indiana said that wasn’t true, and that the real reason it didn’t want to host an NIT game was because its students were on spring break (even though 11 of the 16 designated NIT hosts are on spring break). Finally, Hoosiers Athletic Director Fred Glass came clean: Hosting an NIT game is beneath them.

I would counter by saying the Dec. 28 home loss to a Nebraska team that finished 12-19 devalued the arena perhaps a little bit more, but agree to disagree.

Rob Dauster of NBCSports.com writes that IU’s loss to Georgia Tech puts the spotlight squarely on Tom Crean’s job status:

That’s a job that will target big names, and that will likely be able to hire a big name. Maybe that’s the job that convinces Archie Miller to leave Dayton or Gregg Marshall to leave Wichita State. Maybe they go out and hire Steve Alford, Indiana’s native son, away from UCLA.

In other words, this is the decision that people will be waiting on.

How long are we going to have to wait for Indiana to let us know what they’re going to do?

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  • Jim Miller

    Then its bust, cause Stevens is as likely to walk through that door as RMK.

  • N71

    I’m frustrated with Glass for sure but not ready to pull the plug on him like I am with Crean. Glass has proven himself a smart guy so I’m sure he has his reasons and IU’s best interest at heart. Without him we then get a “committee” or someone from the music school to hire our next AD and coach, no thanks.

  • Even two years Glass would have said something. Wrap the NIT excuses into it, this is a disaster.

  • IULore

    Right, and we dont know what goes on behind the scenes, he could be trying for stevens and we would never know.

  • IULore

    If Crean went to Illinois we might be one of those teams that goes in there every year and loses, like AH is for most ranked teams.

  • IULore

    I think we make the tourney with one starter gone… Realistically, however you feel about the season we were 2 possessions away from getting in.

  • Koko

    I think you had too much to dream last night.

  • Koko

    Indiana basketball program and those leading it from AD on down…..
    Confusion and illogic.

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    in a way it feels like a lose – lose situation…

    if CTC stays, can we even expect the occasional sweet 16 appearance going forward? given the current downgrade in recruiting? what we can expect is a lot more obscure recruits, mainly from the east coast, who have no sentiment whatsoever toward indiana basketball. we can expect senseless turnovers, porous defense, and overall confusion. and we can certainly expect a whole lot more media spin and self affirmation (i.e. ‘the program’s in great shape, we just have to get better’. that’s maybe the dumbest thing he’s ever said). i pray that we don’t have any more off court incidents. that may be the one thing that’s trending upward, thankfully.

    if he goes, it’s likely some of the players are quick to follow, and we’re right back to rebuild mode. welcome back to ground zero. i’m actual hopeful that FG will land a quality coach, but still we’ll be forced to endure another two years (minimum) of mediocrity. and ole man ain’t getting any younger!

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    i think the law of self preservation will motivate FG’s decision, so he won’t keep CTC around if it’s gonna cost him his job.

  • AssemblyBall

    Absolutely warranted. glASS, Crean, and the Board of Trustees should all be locked in a room today and forced to watch, in succession, Notre Dame, Butler, and Purdue games in today’s tourney, and then come out and say, per Crean yesterday, “the program is in great shape”! It is unacceptable leadership. Further, don’t give us this b.s. about the “assembly hall being devalued by hosting an NIT game”. It is nothing but a limestone building – the value comes from the product between the lines, and that product is unwatchable.

  • Biggest Crean hater of all? I hardly think so.

  • I know. Tongue-in-cheek and all that.

  • AssemblyBall

    I disagree. Tell me who will be quick to follow? Bryant, OG, and Blackmon are all gone regardless who the coach is so they don’t count. Your starting 5 for next year is Johnson, Newkirk, Morgan, Davis, and ?. You hire somebody that knows how to run an offense and coach defense and you will have a respectable team.

  • HoosierOne

    Why would the choice be between firing someone or adding a year or two onto his existing contract? Not that I want to see this but wouldn’t letting his existing contract run out also be an option?

    If IU was planning on participating in the NIT at all they should be playing and planning to win the whole thing. Nobody in there right mind would give up home court advantage. Glass should be under the microscope for that move and I don’t see why more people aren’t putting him on the hot seat.

  • HoosierOne

    Excellent points. He can’t say anything now.

  • HoosierOne

    I think Cuban is a hoosier fan through and through. I doubt he would make a negative comment publicly since he knows the impact that might have on things. Perhaps he’s hiding behind one of the IHS avatars and we don’t know it. 🙂

  • pcantidote

    I’m just hoping that it is part of a bigger plan that we just don’t know about yet.

  • Dooteetime

    Please don’t hire Alford. I just don’t think he is that great of a couch. I enjoyed him as a player at IU (I was at IU when Alford was there and we won the national championship) but I don’t think his coaching resume warrants him consideration for the IU job.

  • undoubtedly. but there might already be issues with players. If they all, or most of them, would stay, then I say go for it.

  • well actually you can. but don’t expect great success. they can always pull in a small handful of jucos and a little loose change floating around out there. the main thing is having a solid group already staying, no matter what. that’s my main concern, one way or another. I’m with the players for next year, assuming that we’re not going to get a great coach in the meantime.

  • imagine injuries to players affecting the course of the season…

  • beat me to it.

  • Sherronhasaheadache

    I like crean as a person but cmon man its time to cut ties. Greg Marshall would be g reat fit,defensie minded but canhe recruit bigten talent that is my question. upsets for the tourney in the opening round UNC Wilmington and Middle Tennessee ST

  • Sherronhasaheadache

    Glass needs to go too

  • just a fan

    Long years ago a man told me the one thing (hiring success) that’s the most valuable to a company is hiring a sales man who could hit the ground running. Hire Greg Marshall and we hit the ground running. Maybe, just MAYBE TB will see that at I.U. he’s never been taught to be a “5”, another year under a different-minded coach is to his benefit at the next level; maybe OG, a player so closed-in I’ve never been able to read, will see that in one more year he’ll be a lottery pick, not a “development project” for the NBA, His stock will be far more valuable. James, I wouldn’t expect him to be here even if we hired his dad as coach. Please, FG, hire Marshall

  • Sherronhasaheadache

    Iowa st is my final 4 sleeper

  • calbert40 – AC000000

    Well, nobody’s perfect 🙂

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    well, guess we’re gonna find out! 😉

  • rob salway

    I also disagree. You may lose a couple but it will be nothing like ’08. Bring in a proven coach with a good track record and IU will be just fine. What exactly were your expectations for next season with the roster as it is projected to be anyhow? Yes we might lose a player or 2 but that was honestly a possibility anyhow. I didn’t see a lot of young men having “fun” playing the game this season.

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  • henryhansen

    Hell, I know this is sacrilege, but you want to dominate? And win? And be elite? For sure? Give Calipari $10 million on one year deals (he’s getting up into 7.5-8 range now) It makes me throw up to say that, but… he would be person I’d put most money on being able to recruit and get us there.

    What’s going to happen: either IU and UCLA will do a deal for Alford to come home (which I hope not for everyone’s sake… it can’t end well) Or IU is going after Mack or Miller or Marshall.

  • Yep, I was mostly talking about recruiting when I said “players.” But you make a good point about the incoming coach as well.

  • Russ Mary Southard

    In my opinion only. TC is amazing as a person. We should be falling all over ourselves thanking him for restoring our program. Remember these are students first and his focus has appeared to be just that. My concern is recruiting within the state. I’m not speaking of the superstars. The role players that I would suggest make a much bigger difference. I really don’t care about the one and done, I think you can win without them. Ask yourself, how many titles UK has since Cal, not many. Think about how good this team would have been with a smart and unselfish point guard who would run through a wall to wear the candy stripes.