Crean on Devin Davis: “It’s going to take time”

  • 03/31/2015 5:01 pm in

Indiana sophomore Devin Davis, who missed the entire 2014-2015 season after an accident on Nov. 1 that resulted in a traumatic brain injury, is continuing to make progress in his rehab, but there’s no firm timetable on his return according to Tom Crean.

On the ESPNU college basketball podcast earlier today with Andy Katz and Seth Greenburg, Crean said that he expects Davis to play again, but added that he still has a long way to go.

“I think the chances are good (that he can return). It’s still a long road,” Crean said. “He’s back doing workouts. We’ve started our individual workouts yesterday. In fact it’s almost 70 degrees here so I walked outside to take this call and he was down in the gym just now when I walked out of there. He just turned 21 the other day, so that was great to see him celebrate a birthday after everything that we went through in November.

“But it’s going to take time. We’re nowhere near the contact. We’re nowhere near where we can get up and down the court. We’re pushing him hard, we’re trying to get him better with his shot, keep building his conditioning, his strength, but we’re still a long ways off before he’s going to be able to play but we’ve been given no indication to believe that we wouldn’t be able to do that. But to put a timeline on it, still, even all of these months later, it’s still impossible to do.”

Davis was hospitalized for 19 days following the accident last November, but was able to return to school for the second semester and even dressed for IU’s final regular season game against Michigan State. He also traveled with the team for several games during the second semester.

The Warren Central product has three years of eligibility remaining and averaged 2.4 points and 2.6 rebounds in 8.8 minutes per game as a freshman.

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  • Ms hoosier

    Was really hoping to see him back next year.

  • E Foy McNaughton

    Does anyone know if it is possible to get a medical exception for a second redshirt year and not have it count toward the scholarships?

  • inLinE6

    I believe NCAA can grant another redshirt year for serious injuries, which, Davis seemed to qualify. But from my understanding, all redshirts are counted against total scholarship number. And even that’s case, he can only have maximum 2 redshirt years.

  • James Hardesty

    I found this in Wikipedia: “On rare occasions, players may be allowed to play in their sixth year of college—if they suffered a serious injury that kept them from playing for more than one season.” I assume it would be up to the university to apply for this. And it appears that the injury would have to make him unable to play in 2015-16. I would really hope to see him back this next season myself, but if not hopefully for 2016-17. I wish him the best.

  • TomJameson

    I think we will. He’ll get just a few minutes at first, but I think he’ll get more and more as he knocks the rust off.

  • SilentBob

    It has been tremendous to see this guy recover as quickly as he has. Tremendous fighter. I like everyone hope he can play next year but I’m not banking on it after these comments. I can’t wait to see the next time he steps on McCracken court. It will truly be a special thing to witness.

  • TomJameson

    A player can be given a “normal” redshirt for his freshman year, and if injured can possibly get a “medical” redshirt. A medical redshirt can also be granted for 2 years in a row if the injury is sufficient to warrant it, and DD surely could meet that criteria.

    There is another type of medical waiver that I’m a little hazy on. I think with it the player could continue college and maybe practice with the team, but couldn’t play any more, effectively halting his college career. Like I said, I’m pretty hazy on the details but I think I’ve got the jist of it.

  • Arnold Edgar

    keep this young man in everyone’s prayers. i have had a TBI, and still deal with issues to this date, and its been 9 years. i am no 21 y.o. athlete, so thats a plus for him. young and full of energy. the fact if he can drive a car, get a degree are his 1st priorities. basketball comes 2nd.

  • oldiugymnast

    That is just a medical waiver. You get your scholarship for the remainder of your eligibility but are not allowed to practice with the team. It is typically reserved for players that cannot come back from their injuries. One of my former students took one for a broken bone in his hand that doesn’t heal due to lack of blood supply – pretty common injury on pommel horse. Sometimes this waiver is used to get a guy a scholarship that would have been forced to transfer to keep playing. I have seen that happen a few places. Insurance policy for athletic injuries is really what it is. Also, the medical waiver scholly doesn’t count against the team.

  • oldiugymnast

    Well said.

  • TomJameson

    Thanks! I tried googling it but the little I looked were interchanging the medical waiver and medical redshirt. I just wasn’t sure about the practice part of it.
    Thanks again.

  • E Foy McNaughton

    Based on the tone of CTC’s interview, it certainly doesn’t sound like he’s going to be able to play in the foreseeable future. I believe CTC will put DD’s health first, and wait as long as needed to play him. A second year redshirt may be a good plan. Don’t rush him back.

  • cooper

    I don’t see him coming back and playing much or being more than a small part. This is probably a life long thing he will have to deal with. It’s a shame. I don’t know how redshirt work, do they look at the circumstances of what caused the injury?

  • pcantidote

    I don’t care if he ever plays again. As long as he is of sound mind and body, that is all that matters. All the best Devin.

  • Missing Moye

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see DD end up with two redshirt years, but I would be a bit surprised to see him play 3 more seasons at IU. As much as Tom Crean is always struggling for available scholarships, I can see a scenario where DD graduates but doesn’t get to use all of his years of eligibility in Bloomington, much like Roth and Creek before him. Not to put a negative spin on this – I certainly hope he recovers and stars for 3 more years at IU. What a fan favorite he would be.

  • I’m not sure its simply knocking the rust off. He probably has to totally recalibrate aspects of this game.

  • inLinE6

    Crean’s comments just reset my expectation, back to square one. That was far from encouraging.

  • E Foy McNaughton

    If Maurice Creek had spent his last season of eligibility at IU, I would disagree with you. But absent DD becoming a full time starter, I imagine you are sadly correct. Isn’t it a shame MC’s outside shooting wasn’t available for Noah’s year? Smh.

  • Gregory J. Haggard

    I’m pulling so hard for this guy.
    Even if he never suits up in candy stripes again, I hope he recovers fully and is able to chase his dreams.
    We’re right behind you Double D!

  • marcusgresham

    Just tell the NCAA he’s Mormon, then he gets two years to do whatever.

  • Darrell Allen

    Boy, you continue to post ignorant statements!

  • IUBizmark

    I was afraid of this when the updates stopped flowing months ago…I’m bummed out for Devin. He brings grit, which is something we severely lacked this season. He brings toughness to our culture. We need these ingredients to build a winning culture. Keep working Devin. We love you and can’t wait to see you back.

  • Hoosier Hall

    It’s crazy how things go down sometimes. We as fans never saw any of this coming when the team took the Canada trip. Heck, the biggest news for us was Hanner not being able to travel with them to play the exhibitions. Emmitt wasn’t even on campus yet at that time and Devin was snatching like, 16 rebounds or something close to that number. Keep working DD! I know you’ll get there!

  • TomJameson

    Okay, VERY heavy rust … lol

    I agree, but he has been doing drills, shooting, some conditioning, just no contact. Hopefully he can do some of the walk-throughs, that would be nice.

    But yeah, I think he has a lot of work ahead of him. Even so, I still think he’ll be in the rotation next year for a few minutes anyway. I sure hope so.

  • Senor

    If Crean was any kind of coach, he would have healed Devin by now (sarcasm).

  • TomJameson

    Marcus, I don’t think that was an ignorant statement. I can see the sarcasm in it.

  • TomJameson

    Maurice Creek left to get more playing time. I’m sure CTC talked to Maurice about it, but he also said publically that he wouldn’t play Maurice as much because of his injuries, and was afraid of another one.

    Crean was really affected by Creeks injuries. Say what you want about him, but he truly cares for his players.

  • KmanCRK

    No reason for speculative prognostications. Let’s just hope and pray that DD can get back to living life to its fullest. Glad to hear he’s able to do drills and spend time doing what he loves even if he can’t truly compete.

  • KmanCRK

    I never heard anything officially stating that he was even redshirted this past season. Can anyone confirm this?

  • Benhyoung14

    In this case basketball doesn’t matter. Redshirt years don’t matter. All that matters, and all I hope and pray for is for DD to get 100% of his motor skills back and not have any lingering affects. I for one think CTC is playing this exactly as he should.

  • Hawk4

    Great to hear that the potential is there… for his sake.

    There are so many things more important than basketball in this situation… being able to play again would just be icing on the cake, because that would mean he has made huge progress in so many other areas first.

  • ForeverIU

    Your sexist and prejudiced remarks/jokes are actually not funny, just in case you thought they were.

  • David Macer

    Otherwise known as “purple font” on the paid site !!

  • David Macer

    Yes, he did get a redshirt. The article says he still has 3 years of eligibility left.

  • hoosier93

    Whether he can return or not… as soon as I see someone other than HMP, Holt, DD, Hartman, Morgan, April, Priller or possibly Bryant at the 4 or 5 (Trot or OG) then I am turning off the TV. No reason to ever put those two in that position. We have the right depth. We are 2 deep at PG with Yogi and RJ. 2 deep at SG with JBJ and Z. 2-3 deep at SF with Troy, OG and Hartman. Then you’re left with HMP, Holt, DD, Morgan, Hartman and possibly Bryant that’ll play for the 4 and 5 spot. I will turn the TV off and be done. No reason for crap lineups on the floor with the roster we now have.

  • marcusgresham

    Oh hell, it’s sarcasm. Get over yourself. I can promise you I am far from prejudiced/sexist. Funny you’d say that given the fact that some other clown called me “communist” on here for a statement that was “too liberal” for him.
    You don’t find it a bit of an advantage, though, to have the possibility of 23 and 24 year olds on your roster when no one else gets special exceptions to sit out two years like that?

  • John D Murphy

    It’s actually a real disadvantage because they are on a mission and not playing sports or working out with the team or strength trainers. They are usually far behind their counterparts upon their return.

  • TomJameson

    Come on Forever, if all sexist / prejudiced jokes are banished think of all the unemployed comedians. LOL This was just a harmless sarcastic remark that I understood .. Of course, I am fluent in sarcasmish.

  • TomJameson

    I think Crean HAS to sound that way. I am actually encouraged by the fact that Devin is working out, working on his shot, etc… I’d be willing to bet that NOBODY is pushing DD to return any faster than he should, except for DD himself.

    I am still praying for his continued recovery.

  • Kwang

    Maybe he can wear some kind of protective head gear, like a helmut.

  • TomJameson

    Kwang, I’ve had that same thought. I know there are many lightweight protective headgear options out there that are a preventative nature (not a football helmet lol). I envisioned something like an Adidas hair cover (google it).

    But then there will be those that say if he needed the protection he shouldn’t be playing anyway. I would agree with that too, but it would depend on the definition of “need”. If used as an “extra precaution” I’d say go for it.


    A lot of people have a lot of different views on a lot of things when it comes to Crean, but I don’t think I’m going out on a limb by saying that everyone can pretty much agree that he cares about the well being of all his players.

  • vanpastorman

    Maybe we can hire Benny Hinn as coach?