Indiana ranked 23rd in both polls

  • 01/19/2015 2:22 pm in

Following a 14-4 start overall and a 4-1 mark in Big Ten play, Indiana entered both the Associated Press and USA Today coaches top 25 poll this week at No. 23.

The Hoosiers received 93 points in the AP poll and 56 points in the coaches poll.

The highest vote for Indiana in the AP poll was at No. 18 by Cormac Gordon of the Staten Island (N.Y.) Advance. 35 of the AP voters did not rank the Hoosiers.

Joining Indiana in the AP poll from the Big Ten are Wisconsin (6), Maryland (13) and Iowa (25). Ohio State and Michigan State also received votes.

Indiana hosts Maryland on Thursday night at 9 p.m. ET.

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  • Kyl470

    I kind of liked being under the radar. Hopefully the team stays hungry and comes out and plays well vs. Maryland.

  • inLinE6

    This is not a surprise following the road win at Illinois, but certainly exceeded my expectation before season tipped off. It’s been fun watching this young group to develop. It’s amazing to see how this team wins despite all the injuries and setbacks. Kudos to coach Crean.

  • Eastwood88_2

    I would have voted Iowa higher IMO. Love the credit and hate having a number. No longer an underdog. Except Thursday, Sunday and Next Wednesday

  • OhioHoosier

    I think this is the perfect time to enter the rankings. It will mobilize the less college basketball savvy students on Thursday and the Hall will be rocking for that 9 PM tip off. I cannot wait. This was a balcony spot for my package but nonetheless it will be a great atmosphere!

  • Khoosier3

    Kind of hoped this would hold off for at least a few more good wins. I’m not at all trying to take away from what we have accomplished, but we all know this group isn’t the most mentally tough. Hopefully we can look through the number and keep playing the way we have been.

    Sure would be nice to defend home court Thursday.

  • Robert Weber

    If we beat Maryland, it would have happened anyway. A week early is nothing to sneeze at.

  • jmoney

    Nice to get the recognition. This team is starting to gel even with HMP out. I think our ceiling is top 15…but that’s the optimist in me talking.

  • Senor

    I think we are as mentally tough right now as we’ve been all year. I didn’t think that yesterday before tipoff, though. Hard to coach the “young” out of them. Father time…still undefeated.

  • IUfanPurduePhD

    Same thoughts here; the last thing I want is for our young team to let this get to their heads. However, if handled properly, this may be viewed as reward for [mostly] working hard after the MSU debacle.

  • IUfanPurduePhD

    Aside from Georgetown, we’ve been winning the close games. What I’d like to see change is some of the eeking out (Nebraska, OSU, PSU) in favor of putting a boot on somebody’s throat and putting the game out of reach (like Louisville did to IU).

  • Arch Puddington

    While I don’t think the rankings will have anything to do with how motivated the team is, I do agree that it was nice being under the radar. This team has shown great determination and togetherness by fighting through adversity since before the season ever began, and we have some really nice victories to our credit. But 5 of our next 7 games represent tougher games than any we have won so far, and 4 of them are on the road. Perception is reality, as they say, and here is the proof: the human polls are beginning to include us in the top 25, but Sagarin has us at 44 and Kenpom has us at 51. Human voters are fickle and almost always under-informed; if they rank us higher than we deserve now, they can rank us lower than we deserve later. If we take a series of beatdowns over the next couple of weeks — and while I am not predicting such a thing, I would point to our showings against Louisville and MSU as indications that it is possible — I just hope they don’t over-correct.

    Of course, what I REALLY hope for is that we perform well and none of the concern matters.

  • ForeverIU

    Beat the Terrapins! I would not want to be a Terrapin right now.

  • ATG08

    Nice to get a number next to the name. Hard earned. Something last year’s team couldn’t accomplish with an NBA draft pick down low, and an easier overall schedule. It isn’t the only thing, but it is one of the things that tell’s me this year’s team is better and much more cohesive.

    Still a long way to go, and tons of room for improvement on collective defense and ball handling decisions, but these guys appear to play well together and for one another. I really hope that those in attendance at Assembly Hall bring deafening noise down upon the young MD players to the likes of which they have never seen or heard. It can be done. A win against MD and the national noise about the Hoosiers gets even louder. Go Hoosiers.

  • Gregory Spera

    I would never want to be a Terrapin.

  • Hoosier Hall

    We’re still underdogs in at least 2 of our upcoming games.

  • Hoosier Hall

    I’ve been hoping for the same thing. I’m aging more every game the way these kids run and gun. Our defense just won’t allow us to run away from any decent teams.

  • E Foy McNaughton

    Please don’t let that be the “Kiss of Death”

  • E Foy McNaughton

    I don’t even want Terrapins in our conference, but what are ya going to do?

  • E Foy McNaughton

    It helps that IU is hitting big shots, turning the ball over less, and playing as a team … The defense is improving, not consistent, but improving.

    Who else said, holy crap, JBJ just played great defense in the IL game? Wow!

  • JWaltFTW

    I definitely noticed that! I loved it!

  • JWaltFTW

    I don’t think it will. Don’t forget that Yogi was playing (actually starting) 3 years ago on the #1 ranked team. I trust him to not let this get into his teammates’ heads.

  • VAHoosier

    Hey, at least it makes it more likely that I can make it to a game. I’ll be representing in College Park next month!

  • N71

    Hard fought for sure. I’d take MSU, Butler, OSU, and Georgetown all over Dayton at 22. Come Thursday we should be able to run on the Terrapins, they’re slow.

  • Senor

    Very true. We’ve been on the right end of these close ones more than we haven’t.
    It seems like every time we get up on somebody, I think “an experienced team stretches this to 12, an inexperienced team lets it get cut to 3”. I think my ulcers would be better served if we showed more of that kind of maturity/ toughness….

  • JWaltFTW

    Half of me says rankings don’t mean squat, but the other half knows they do. It’s recognition for winning, and it’s great for recruiting. Indiana is already Indiana and recruits get that. Add a rank? Now we’re talking.

  • E Foy McNaughton

    I agree – and the next few games are going to be difficult for even a 23rd ranked team to win — Maryland, 2 road games against rivals.

    I really like that this team doesn’t get rattled (aside from the MSU game) and they move the ball well. Also, of the players are playing really well —- with what people say is high basketball IQ — like Yogi, JBJ, RJ, CH, NZ, and now even TW. CTC is coaching his butt off and they are listening.

  • E Foy McNaughton

    Iowa has some big wins, and the loss to MSU was explainable/understandable. I would not have said this in the preseason, but I think they are going to finish in the top 4-5 in the B1G.

  • WhatsUpKnight2.0

    nice to be back in top25, hope it’s not short-lived. md getting a lot of love right now too. one thing i would love to see is our guys getting off to a fast start, something they’ve struggled with this season. this season’s going to wear on them if they continually have to dig themselves out of a hole.

  • E Foy McNaughton

    HH – the defense is improving (minus the Penn St game). I could see a future for IU that includes a good defense, the return of HMP, and a team NOBODY wants to play in the NCAAs.

  • E Foy McNaughton

    IF IU splits Maryland & OSU and doesn’t get blown out, I’d say they stay in the top 25.

  • Michael

    Time to see if we can frustrate dez wells and melo.

  • PBzeer

    Have to admit, I didn’t see this coming yet. Be interesting to what, if any, effect it has on the team psyche. But this level of the poll, it’s as much about who falls out, as who moves in.

  • BMusic

    We haven’t accomplished anything yet. Let’s go out there and go 1-0 in our next 1 games.

  • Guyton25

    Thrilled we’re back in the polls, but even more thrilled that Maryland is coming to get the Assembly Hall treatment. I believe the series is tied 1-1 since that night in 2002 and I’m still bitter.

  • SCHoosier

    That’s a mean, shell of a thing to say Greg:)

  • Actually, for such a young team (and even for any team), I think this group has earned the “mentally tough” moniker. To go on the run and get down by double digits twice, and fight back for the win, shows me that they’re confident and resilient. Yes, they’ve had their letdowns (MSU being the best example, of course), but right now they’re as tough a team as I can remember.

  • I think (or hope?) that this team will see this as an accomplishment worth holding on to rather than a laurel to rest on. In fact, they might start looking at the number and wanting to make it smaller…

  • Rushman

    How much does IU’s preseason rankings on Sagarin and Kenpom effect there current rankings today? If I remember right, we didn’t have the greatest preseason ranking on those sites. Being that they are all formula-based, I wonder how hard it is to move from that far back.

  • drewmiller1

    I have a theory that Indiana’s unbalanced offensive(13th)
    and defensive(195th) efficiency doesn’t fit well within the kenpom ranking models. Notre Dame, has a similar issue
    (1st and 161th) is ranked 15th in the model, and 8th in the AP.

  • Arch Puddington

    Kenpom actually had us ranked 26th in the preseason. We have dropped despite our wins because at least as he measures things our defense is not very efficient. Our offense is ranked 13th in the country, but our defense is 195th. His rankings place a premium on that kind of thing, and since he had our defense projected at 40th before the season, our drop in that measure has driven down our overall ranking. It’s just one measure, of course, but his measures are pretty widely respected and quoted.

  • JetpackJunky

    Higher than us? They’ve lost 1 more than we have and lost every challenging preseason game except UNC.

    It helps us that our Big Ten loss is the same as theirs, but we did ours away instead of at home too.

  • E Foy McNaughton

    My predicted top 5 – Wisconsin, Maryland, IU, Iowa, MSU …. Not sure what order … But hope I’m correct on IU

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Kind of sucks we didn’t beat G’Town because we would’ve been ranked then and at least probably stayed ranked for a while. I like this team as the consummate underdog and this is probably a bad stretch to be entering if you want to remain ranked. Oh, well, it’s what matters at the end of the season not the beginning or even the middle!

  • marcusgresham

    …but a team that lets it get cut to 3 (or gives up the lead,) and still keeps at it well enough to come back is mentally impressive.

  • Aceman_Mujezinovic_07

    Oh, and here’s something I thought about today:

    Does the EWU loss even register at this point at all? At one time you would think that would’ve been considered a “bad loss” but if this team continues to win a few road games and hold serve at home it won’t matter because right now I think IU would fall off the bubble anyway and into the pretty comfortable category.

    Anything better and 10-8 in the B1G and I think they stay there. That’s a safe bet right now!

  • Eugene Debs

    Solid.

  • defendtherock

    It will be nice to see a little number beside our name in upcoming games. This team has been been playing like a top 20 team for most of the year. I’m glad the pollsters have finally taken notice. Honestly it’s pretty cool that we have forced teams to change their lineups to match up with us, instead of the other way around. We have a very big and exciting week ahead! The students need to have The Hall on tilt from warmups to final buzzer!

  • Senor

    Hear hear!

  • I read a recent quote from a recruit that we are targeting, and when he mentioned what he likes about Maryland he said that being “ranked nationally” was something that he was impressed by. I think being in the limelight helps our image and reputation with recruits.

    I also realized recently that there is an expectation that IU is ranked. I was talking to a classmate and mentioned I was an IU fan and the first thing he asked was “Oh really? What are they ranked?”

    I’d like to be able to give a number as an answer 🙂

  • I checked the RPI rankings today and EWU is ahead of the likes of Illinois and only two spots behind OSU. Definitely not a “bad” loss.