Around the Hall: Ferrell among nation’s best

  • 10/29/2014 12:09 pm in

Around the Hall is recommended reading from the Inside the Hall staff.

· Yogi Ferrell is the 37th best player in college basketball according to SBNation.com and James Blackmon Jr. is listed among “50 more who just missed” the top 100.

· Nike announced Charlotte Hornets rookie Noah Vonleh is one of three rookies to recently join the Jordan Brand team.

· Ferrell and Blackmon are a big reason why Indiana is one of the top 20 backcourts in America, according to NBCSports.com and Ferrell was also listed as the fifth best lead guard in the country by NBC.

· ESPN.com released its preseason power rankings and the Big Ten has five teams in the top 25.

· In an ESPN Insider piece (premium link), ESPN.com’s Jeff Goodman picked Indiana to finish eighth in the league.

· In a season primer of sorts, the Associated Press writes that Indiana is changing its attitude to change its course.

· Zach Osterman’s takeaway from Hoosier Hysteria: Hanner Mosquera-Perea is better.

· Ken Pomeroy details what factors play into his preseason ratings, which have Indiana slotted at No. 26 nationally.

· Four former Indiana players are on NBA rosters to begin the 2014-2015 season: Eric Gordon, Victor Oladipo, Cody Zeller and Vonleh.

· The one-month contract that D.J. White signed in Spain expires next week.

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  • Hoosier Pride

    The SB Nation article stats Yogi has arguably a worse supporting cast this year than last and defenses will key even more so towards him. I love these preseason articles..

  • Hoosier Pride

    states

  • Joe Pop

    i was just going to say the exact same thing. This shows that clearly the preseason ranking are only looking at last seasons results. Worse supporting cast is a ridiculous statement.

  • BC2

    Found it interesting that NV joined the Nike brand. According to Rick Pitino players that go to Adidas Schools have a hard time getting Nike contracts.

  • IceCreamNCrimson

    When I read things like this, the writer loses all credibility.

  • IceCreamNCrimson

    After losing that player like Pitino did, I’d be making the same comments.

  • Just another Hoosier

    People who play for Jordan have no issues with Nike contracts

  • hoosierfan2336

    Haha he does work for his airness now

  • Bdub-hoops

    I think you could actually argue this, only if you take into account that a lot of the supporting cast hasn’t played a college game yet. We are all pretty confident in JBJ and Rob and in the progression of Stan and Troy, and for good reason. If you don’t know much about our incoming class or don’t put much stock in freshmen until they prove themselves you could think we have a worse supporting cast. Sheehey (even though he struggled last year) and Vonleh aren’t part of the “Addition by Subtraction” discussion IMO.

  • Hoosier Pride

    Their is plenty of stock put into freshmen; according to this article their are 7 better freshmen in the country than yogi ferrell

  • FinEndNow

    Well Zeller and Oladipo are Jordan aren’t they?

  • FinEndNow

    One thing I’d like to see the offense start doing is the “drive and oop” instead of the “drive and dish.” I want to see Yogi drive the lane and instead of a bounce pass or shovel off to Hanner… I want to see him throw it up for Hanner to go and get.

  • Alford Bailey

    BINGO

  • Alford Bailey

    On paper he probably does have a worse supporting cast especially no lottery pick in NV. Our current group is plenty talented for the most part and can actually put the ball in the basket.

  • Alford Bailey

    Sheehey was terrible last year on the court and for a senior wasn’t able to provide much leadership to that young bunch last year for whatever reason. We will get better production out of the guys who play those minutes this season.( Sorry to all the people on here who still have a man crush on Will).

  • InTheMtns

    There is no doubt that Nic Moore is really, really good. But if Yogi’s 37th, there is no way Nic is 11th. I predict that Yogi will straighten out that misconception when we play SMU on Nov. 20.

  • Alford Bailey

    Yogi could easily be considered the best pg in the country by March. He is as talented as anyone ahead of him on that list those guys just had a better supporting cast last year.

  • Alford Bailey

    That SMU game is not the marquee matchup we thought it was going to be when announced in the spring.

  • Alford Bailey

    Caris Levert #9 and Yogi #37? HAHAHAHAHAHA! Funniest thing I’ve read this week.

  • FinEndNow

    So candy stripes are the #1 selling collegiate item? That is what Crean said at Hoosier Hysteria. I don’t think he was trying to pump up the crowd either. He didn’t seem to be in the mood to do so.

  • Bdub-hoops

    Dunno if you watched the HH scrimmage, but this exact thing happened. Yogi drove, help came, he threw a sweet oop up to Hanner. Only thing is Hanner wasn’t ready for it and was late going up for it (he still scored, but it wasn’t as pretty). Can’t fall asleep when Yogi has the ball, the passes come from everywhere.

  • FinEndNow

    Is this actually legit?

  • yeah, both could have been ranked higher. If Yogi doesn’t turn it over on 20% of his possessions like he did last year, I’m sure he’ll be ranked higher. It all starts with not jumping in the air when passing the ball. Unfortunately he did this several times during HH–got away with it a few times, but one time led to a turnover.

  • Outoftheloop

    To call Will’s senior year “terrible” is pure idiocy! Check the stats: .472 FG% (ahead of Yogi .413%); minutes 30.3 (#2); .330% 3-point (#3 on team); rebounds 125 (#3 on team); points 11.4/game (#2 ahead of the #9 NBA drat pick). Not a great year but so far from terrible that you lost ALL credibility!

  • steelhoosier

    Is that the Nic Moore from Warsaw Indiana

  • FinEndNow

    They do need to be ready for it. Kansas and Kentucky use it very well. They also use the back cut and oop very well. Indiana just doesn’t throw oops… we had some many turnovers… none were because of bad oops.

  • Kyl470

    I really don’t get all this love for Dawson (MSU) and Lavert (MICH). I’m not saying they are bad players, but all the preseason rankings think they both will go from being role players to studs just because their teams lost star players. Last year you could say the same thing about Sheehey. He was a solid role player for three years and once the stars left a lot of people (myself included) thought that he would shine in his chance to be the star. Unfortunately he didn’t, but he was once again a good role player for the team.

  • FinEndNow

    I can see LeVert winning B1G POY. Good defender, long, athletic and his jump shot is improving. He’ll be the #1 offensive option in Ann Arbor. He had shown flashes of it last year.

  • InTheMtns

    With Mudiay electing to play in China, that may be true. But ESPN(dot)com still has SMU ranked as 20th in the nation and most rating services are still showing them a lot of respect. They’ll be ranked when we play them I’m pretty sure. Maybe not as high as originally predicted as you said, but still a quality team.

  • InTheMtns

    Yep. He played at Illinois State and transferred when the coach left to become an assistant at SMU. He sat out last year, He’s a junior this year and probably SMU’s starting point guard.

  • Alford Bailey

    And the one big kid (forget his name) being suspended hurts also.

  • Alford Bailey

    TURRYBLE, and if you read I did apologize to those that still had a man crush on Will.

  • steelhoosier

    Good ballplayer probably would have stayed in state. Saw him in a regional game in high school. He was fun to watch

  • Bryce Kepner

    He may have been #2 and #3 in a lot of team stats, but we weren’t a very good team last year…..

  • Bryce Kepner

    SMU is still in the Top 25

  • IUJeff

    Yeah if those 2 get on the same page look out below. Hanner will be unleashed.

  • CreanFaithful

    SMU only lost two players from last year’s team and they combine for 11.3 pts/game. Meanwhile, they return 4/5 starters. Still gonna be a tough early matchup for the Hoosiers.

  • Jrod

    Where was he in crucial games that we needed him to step up and make the shot? Will disappeared in a lot of games and didn’t come on til the end of the year.

  • ForeverIU

    I dare you to say that to Ole Man, lol.

  • The Balcony Seats

    Man am I worried about our inside presence. Only time will tell if we will be able to offset the balance between the back and front court.

  • Zach

    Exactly. I was thinking the same thing. Although we all think and have reason to believe this year’s group around Yogi will be better, they are unproven at the college level and “experts” always put heavy emphasis on this.

  • TomJameson

    You can argue that they were part of the addition by subtraction formula, without taking away that they were very good individual players. IMO, the TEAM just wasn’t there. Now don’t get me wrong, I am not blaming either one of those two guys, but Will did a great job without a lot of focus. I think the lack of team cohesiveness really bothered him. I do think that the high turnover last year was needed to jump start a new year, a new attitude, and a new playing style.

  • TomJameson

    But those same “experts” will have high expectations from another team that has just as many unproven components as IU. These experts are only expressing their opinions, and they are influenced by their own preferences, favorite coaches and players, etc… I have more faith in some of the posters here than I do in those “experts”. LOL

  • Hoosier Taxidermist

    Please say it isn’t so. Even though he should be 15 to 20 places lower on the list he could probably be even lower if he would stop with the jump passes.IMO.

  • calbert40

    The national publications are like this. Too many teams to adequately cover all of them. I mean, there are over 300 teams for them to preview. It’s easier to mail it in and say, “Yogi’s supporting cast isn’t as good,” when the fact is that’s not accurate.

    I pay more attention to the B1G-centric publications, writers and blogs. They pay attention to 14 teams, and they are much more knowledgeable about any B1G team than Goodman is at ESPN, IMO. Though, there are some national guys that I respect, such as Pomeroy.

  • His turnover rate was actually 18 percent last year. According to Pomeroy, anything under 15 percent is considered a solid number.

  • calbert40

    I would amend Alford’s comment to say Will had a disappointing senior season. He wasn’t terrible, but I don’t think anyone would argue that he failed to live up to our (perhaps too lofty) expectations.

    It isn’t the regular season, so I’m going to refrain from diving headlong into some stats to back up my claim, but if I recall correctly, he was incredibly inconsistent. His per game averages may look okay, but they are slightly misleading, because he had games where he played VERY well and games where he played VERY poorly. I could be wrong, but that’s just what I remember.

  • I place Goodman just a rung or two down the ladder from say a Skip Bayless. Clueless idiot who gets paid wayyyyyy too much to know so little.

  • Wow! How out of touch/clueless are these sportswriters? These guys are supposed to be pros? Any site that ranks Nic Moore ahead of Yogi Ferrell loses credibility with me. Yogi is going to take his lunch money at the Hall. Book that. Caris Levert is disgustingly overrated. Dude had so much help. Defenses NEVER keyed in on him.

  • He hasn’t played in one single game where he was keyed in on defensively. I can see him as defensive POY but I’d bet the house on him not winning B1G POY. He’s not that type of player.