• BlakeD1223

    First of all I was really disappointed in the game last night. The jersey’s did absolutely no good for the viewer. Everyone looked the same. You couldn’t tell who was who with those god awful jersey’s. Here’s an idea, put the name and number on the jersey’s in white instead of black so we can at least see the name of the player!

    The game was junk like they always are. It looked like an NBA all star game. I would have loved to have seen some defense and see these young men go at it. I don’t know how these kids can be as competitive as they are but then go out and play lazy defense. I know they are trying to avoid injury but I think you are more likely to get hurt going for an ally oop dunk then bending your knees and playing defense. Man, I’m sounding like a grumpy old man right now.

    I was impressed with Noah’s ball handling skills and his leaping ability. He struggled from the free throw line but I’m hoping that was just a fluke. I was also sick of hearing that every other player that shot was going to KY. Man, I hate KY!

  • Hoosier_DC

    A lot of talented one and dones coming in next year…CZ’s chances at a lottery pick may go down if he stays in college with this recruiting class.

  • Kelin Blab

    I actually stop watching the game because of the uniforms and not knowing who anybody was on the court. I figured it would be a Kentucky love fest given 85% of the kids will be going there.

    Vonleh’s ball handling is a huge asset especially playing the 4. I can only imagine him playing at the 3 spot, an improved Hanner at some point playing the 4, and Luke at the 5. That would be a huge and active front line.

  • Kelin Blab

    VERY good point.

  • SCHoosier

    Too many ball-hogs to feed at this trough..to see how our piggy might play. (so to speak) At 17 though..There’s a b-ball player in that 17 year old body though.

  • SCHoosier

    Exactly why he will go this year and be drafted and paid on his potential. 7-footers who can run the floor don’t come along every year.

  • CreamandCrimson

    He’s bigger than Watford, has more length than Watford and is more athletic than Watford. However, he doesn’t shoot the ball as well and he had a propensity to get in foul trouble during his high school career.

    The physical tools to be a better player than Christian Watford are clearly there. Will he work as hard as will be required to make this happen? We have no idea but I will give him the benefit of the doubt. A bright future awaits for Noah Vonleh.

  • Wow. The kid is a very athletic rebounder. Six rebounds (four offensive) in only 11 minutes. We could have used him this year. On the down side, Noah’s free throws were almost as ugly as those uniforms.

  • notfargj

    couldn’t agree more on the jerseys. couldn’t keep track of which player was which and – to make things worse – there was very little play-by-play commentary. for a stretch there, jay williams rattled off some story about his basketball-playing days. during that sequence, there were some really nice plays being made on the court that went unacknowledged. the distribution of playing time seemed like a kentucky spring training camp. like kelin blab, i just turned it off and went to bed.

  • BlakeD1223

    Excellent point.

  • BlakeD1223

    I agree, the commentating was horrible. Maybe it was because they couldn’t tell who was who as well.

  • BlakeD1223

    Ok, I’m going to make this statement and I hope no one is offended and they understand that I am not being raciest at all. It’s just a simple question and I mean nothing offensive by it.

    Are the days of seeing white players play coming to an end? You telling me that in the whole country there wasn’t one white guy that could make the All American team? Not that it really matters to me if the player is black or white, I just found it kinda strange. Maybe it’s just not a white boys game.

  • BlakeD1223

    He can jump…. that’s what he has on Watford. Watford struggled around the basket simply because he wasn’t as explosive. I’m really excited to see what Noah can do next year.

  • BlakeD1223

    Considering every other person who touched the ball was going to KY they seemed to have had no choice but talk about them. I hope to god that team fails! I hope that all of those egos dont mix and they suck next year.

  • BlakeD1223

    I replied to you but accidentally did it under Kelin’s comments.

  • I mean Kentucky fans are already calling it the greatest team ever to play. I mean im pretty young and never saw them play, but I would take the ’75 and ’76 teams over Kentucky. That team lost one game in 2 years by one point without their best player. That is pretty dominating.

  • shknqk

    Noahs ball game is incongruous.

    He likes to dribble and run the point. He likes to rebound. Both pretty effectively. This will be a great challenge to see how CTC uses him. It’s not obvious how he will. As great a post player as he can be, I hope he isn’t banished there like Cody was. It would be the last flex big man we would ever see.

  • b_side

    Not trying to be a jerk, but “maybe” is an understatement. 83% of players in the NBA in 2011 were not white.

    Re: McD’s All-Americans, I know Cody, Wiltjer and Plumlee (Marshall) played in 2011. Not that it matters, but I believe the 2012 did not have any white players either.

  • BlakeD1223

    Yeah, lets be honest, there hasn’t been a GREAT white American player in the NBA since John Stockton and Larry Bird. I don’t know what makes whites not as good at bball but it is what it is I guess.

  • I’m hoping Crean starts playing Cody (still holding out hope for him being back next year) and Noah more like a Steve Novak or Lazar Hayward. With a stretch 4 & 5…I think we would really be dangerous. That would open up the lane for our slashers to get to the rack!

  • I thought it was ridiculous how little Noah got to touch the ball. I got kinda tired of watching after awhile because some of those kids just chucked it as soon as it touched their hand or put their head down and went to the rack. Hopefully he gets more touches at the Jordan Brand game next week. Here’s to hoping!

  • HoosierTrav

    I dont take too much outta this game. The practices are more competitve than the game due them being closed off for NBA scouts. It was the UK showcase. He had 6 minutes and never got the ball when he worked for position. You could see a little bit of frustration from the games bigs. The first 3 mins, he grabbed 3 boards, altered shots and got to the free throw line twice. Disparity in minutes shouldn’t be that great in this game. What a joke of an event this has become. I look forward to the Jordan Brand Classic. Seems to be the more exciting game the past few years. Noah and Cody together could be scary good. I can see Cody getting so much better on the glass bc of Vonleh. You can also kiss the Cody double and triple team good bye. Not with this kid as the 3-4. Teams wont be able to double either player bc whoever isnt getting doubled is going to eat thanksgiving dinner on the offensive boards. To me there are 3 things that stand out with Vonleh. The first is that his length is SUBSTANTIAL. The second is that he is a very crafty rebounder. Some guys rely completely on pure size and strength. He uses fakes, his length to tip the ball where he has better position, and has the great fundamental rebounding aspect to his game as well. The third is his ability to handle the ball and create his own shot. He can really handle the rock. I’m excited to see him in candy stripes.

  • HoosierTrav

    Stock WILL go down. Question is: Does he want to leave IU with unfinished business and leave his good friends?

  • Mark my words: the running story line next year, until they lose, will be whether or not KY becomes the next unbeaten team.

  • HoosierBeatdown

    ESPN has a love affair with pUKe


    If NV can get his shot around the basket that will be nice. CW struggled with his shot when working in close to the rim his whole career, that doesn’t mean he didn’t do other things well and contribute, but he did struggle with his shot in close and in traffic and CZ while doing other things well and contributing as well, also struggled in traffic and around the rim. Not trying to dog or diss them just saying it will be a nice change up if NV is able to not have that particular problem.


    Don’t know if would make it impossible to recruit another one like NV but how, Luke Fischer, and probably to a greater extent NV, how their game progresses and how fast it progresses will go a long way in how other recruits of NV’s type seriously consider playing at IU IMHO.


    Just like there is no guarantee that NV will come in and tear it up right away or even at all, there is no guarantee that all the talent headed to the Big Blue Cesspool is going to make for a National Chmpshp team let alone an undefeated one. Not saying that that was what you were saying just stating that it’s no guarantee IMHO.

  • baukev55

    Steve Nash? Dirk Nowitzki? Does being Canadian or German count as non-white? Certainly the African-American dominates the sport like white people dominate the sport of hockey, but that’s not to say that there aren’t/ can’t be any great white basketball players.

  • BlakeD1223

    I was referencing white Americans but maybe I’m being too picky. I just know Nash and Dirk would never be on a USA Olympic team (for obvious reasons) so I wasn’t including them. Like I said, in the end it doesn’t really matter but I just couldn’t help but notice the decline in whites playing bball.