Five takeaways from Indiana’s loss at Illinois

  • 02/08/2013 9:26 am in

IU@ILLITH0002CHAMPAIGN, Ill. — After leading by 14 points on two separate occasions, Indiana couldn’t hold on Thursday night at Assembly Hall and the No. 1 Hoosiers dropped their second conference game 74-72 to Illinois. The loss moved IU into a three-way tie with Michigan and Michigan State for the Big Ten lead.

Here’s a look at five takeaways from IU’s loss to the Fighting Illini:

· About that final play: Tyler Griffey’s game-winning, wide-open layup will get all of the headlines, but Indiana’s inability to put Illinois away when it had the chance is the real story of this loss. One particular sequence that stood out: The Hoosiers led 55-41 with 12:55 remaining following a Will Sheehey dunk. Hanner Mosquera-Perea was subbed in for Cody Zeller at the 12:45 mark and gave up a layup and then a 3-point play. The Hoosiers would extend the lead back to double digits on a couple more occasions, but when there’s blood in the water on the road, allowing an opponent to quickly regain momentum can prove costly. “We didn’t put them away when we had the opportunity,” Tom Crean said postgame. “That’s really the bottom line.”

· Sheehey’s technical was unnecessary and costly: It may have seemed harmless at the time because Indiana was beginning to open things up on Illinois late in the first half, but the technical foul on Sheehey ended up being a crucial mistake. Debating whether the technical was deserved is futile, but it’s fair to wonder if Sheehey’s antics on the bench and also in the win at Purdue have given him a reputation with officials. Playing with an edge is one thing, but when it leads to picking up an unnecessary technical foul, it may be time to dial it back and just play.

· Cody Zeller didn’t get enough field goal attempts: Illinois had no one on its roster capable of guarding Cody Zeller and IU failed to take advantage of the foul trouble that plagued Nnanna Egwu all night. Zeller finished the night with just six field goal attempts. Christian Watford, Victor Oladipo, Yogi Ferrell and Sheehey all had more looks. Does Indiana need to do a better job of finding Zeller? Does Zeller need to do a better job of establishing position and calling for the ball? Probably a little bit of both, but when there’s a clear mismatch, Indiana needs to exploit it. Zeller still finished with a team-high 14 points because he got to the foul line six times (all in the first half), but getting the ball inside as the lead was evaporating may have changed the outcome.

· Indiana shot better, rebounded better, had a better free throw rate and still lost: The Hoosiers came out on top of this game in effective field goal percentage, offensive rebounding percentage and free throw rate and still managed to come up short. The reason? Turnovers. The Hoosiers coughed up the ball 14 times in all, including eight in the second half. Six of the turnovers came from Watford, his highest total since his freshman season. In Big Ten play, Indiana is turning the ball over on 20.4 percent of its possessions, which is the second worst mark in the league. As effective and potent as Indiana is on offense, it simply can’t afford to give opponents extra possessions and expect to get away with it.

· This loss changes the Big Ten race: Indiana was up just one game in the loss column, but the Hoosiers are now tied with Michigan and Michigan State. Those are two teams Indiana still has to play on the road and one glance at the remaining road slate shows that things won’t get any easier from here. Trips to Ohio State, Michigan State, Minnesota and Michigan are on the horizon, which is the downside to IU’s backloaded road schedule. Michigan’s remaining road games: Wisconsin, Michigan State, Penn State and Purdue. Michigan State’s remaining road games: Purdue, Nebraska, Ohio State, Michigan. It’s likely that 14-4 will at least earn a share of the conference crown, but for IU to get there, the Hoosiers would need to hold serve and split the remaining road games.

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  • IU ED

    Zeller did not see ball enough against Butler.. Was not even in at end of game All on CTC even though he never admits blame He is not good at sub patterns either Probably will not post this because of telling it as it is.

  • IU ED

    Zeller did not see ball enough against Butler.. Was not even in at end of game All on CTC even though he never admits blame He is not good at sub patterns either Probably will not post this because of telling it as it is.

  • Ole Man

    Alex, I think everyone is so stunned, that we don’t know what to say. I know the team is stunned. I hope this doesn’t carry over to the OSU game. It could start a nasty “slide” for this team.

  • CreamandCrimson

    I realize this is completely pointless and futile because college basketball is mostly unpredictable. Even when you shoot better, rebound better and control the game for 37 minutes, you can lose. However, some (slightly) educated projection…
    -Michigan: Loses at Michigan State and wins the rest of their games (15-3)
    -Michigan State: Loses at Ohio State and Michigan (14-4)
    -Indiana: Loses at Michigan State and Michigan. I don’t know why I feel pretty good about Sunday’s game, there is no reason to and I know I will pay for my optimism. (14-4)

    If it plays out that way (it’s a big IF all the way around), I would be disappointed that we didn’t get a share of the B1G title but I wouldn’t be upset with a 5-loss regular season and we would still have a shot at a #1/#2 seed if we performed well in the B1G tourney in Chicago. Who knows though, Illinois has beaten us and Ohio State and lost by double digits to Northwestern.

  • Joe B

    You said it when mentioning the Hanner substitution, we don’t have that killer instinct to put teams away. And Creans seems to not really have any strategy when subbing guys in. It’s almost as if he says, ” Umm, ok.. your turn, go grab a few minutes”..
    We so badly needed this game. Take a look at the schedule left, with road games at OSU, MSU, MINN, MICH, and tell me which one of those is a win.. The B10 now hangs in the balance after this game. It was one game, but it was one very important and crucial game we SHOULD have won.

  • Pete

    I hope you’re right that 14-4 grabs a share of the conference crown but I’m not sure Michigan loses more than one more game this season unless IU steals one in Ann Arbor.

  • Friend of the Program

    This team has too many guys who take plays off and too many guys who think they are the #1 option. All night I yelled at the TV for IU to feed the post to CZ. He doesn’t have to score 20, but the insideout game is whn we are t our best. BUT…ast night Cody should have had 15 shots and 30 points. Go back and watch the tape, under a minute to go, C Wat had the ball on the wing and CZ was posted strongwith baseline open, floor was spread, and C Wat passed out top after looking CZ down for 3 seconds. Why didn’t he throw inside? We haven’t played a game in the Big 10 yet that had a more favorable match up for any player than CZ vs Illinois last night. I’m tired of the lack of discipline when we get a lead, we allow teams to close back in. Case in point was being up double digits in the 1st half and we have a fastbrea with Will, Vic, a Cwat,and its 3 on 1 and we get nothing out of it because we lofted two passes towards the rim with the expectation of a crowd whooing dunk…but we got nothing. I believe we would have gone up 16 on that play. A couple “me” shots later, Illinois closes it to 6.

    Question, why is Will launching a 3 late in the game off 1 pass in a half court set in a tight game? Runt he offense through Cody, pop to Vic, let him dribble drive,or kick to an open shooter to knock down a jumper.

    We are pooly coached int he crunch because guys don’t know their roles. This game was lost long before the lay up at the buzzer. We had 3 chances to put them away and didn’t. Crean needs to get control of th team and the egos. It’s fun to watch the high flying acrobatics, but it sucks to lose to inferior teams.

    We look to lose at OSU, MICH, MSU, adn MInn…throw in a Big 10 tourney loss, and NCAA loss and we are sitting at 27-9. Sound familiar? Yeah, that’s the same record as last year, which gave us all hope that we were ready for prime time. This team is the same as last year…lots of talent, but lacking elite decision making on the floor or sideline.

    I’m ready for a line up change. Put C Wat and Jordy on the bench. If one over the other, put Jordy there. Start Remy so w have a strong perimeter defender. Jordy could then bring leadership and scoring off the bench. Give Elston more minutes. Lessen C Wat’s role. Feed CZ!!!! Tell Will he’s the 4th or 5th option, not #1.

    I’m also ready for CTC to stop chewing his gum, clapping his hands, and smiling into the camera and start coaching his way out of ridiculous losses!!!

  • ChefDan

    As ole’ Shooter Flatch told the boys from Hickory,”Don’t get caught watchin’ the paint dry” and that’s exactly what happed on the final inbounds play.

  • WatchingYogi_atYogis

    14-4 just got tougher for the Hoosiers (but still possible). If Michigan manages to get a win at Wisconsin on Saturday, they really take control of the race, considering the remaining schedules. If they win that one, it’s pretty easy to see them going 15-3. Of course, we will have something to say about that in Ann Arbor in the final game. But I really don’t like the prospect of playing there for a possible share of the regular season. I thought we needed 4 of 5 going into the Michigan State game to be in a good spot. Unfortunately that makes a tough game at Ohio State on Sunday near to a must win. The Buckeyes have been playing better of late, getting contributions from some guys not named Thomas, including Ross in particular. I had them as overrated at the beginning of the conference schedule, but think they are growing to be a viable Big Ten contender.

  • sloan screen #45

    Great job on this, Alex. All these points are dead on. I had hoped Watford had moved past his problem with good game then bad game but I just dont think its gonna happen. Its troubling to me how much CWats performance effects this team. He plays well IU wins. He plays like crap IU can get beat on any night. Thats too much of an influence from a guy who is consistently inconsistent. A dunk going to the basket against Michigan and shot blocked on a similar play in this one. Drives me insane. Jeremy H. needs to take more of Mr. Watfords minutes. It will be good for both of them. CWat seems to need something to motivate him continually. Let the bench do it.

  • CreamandCrimson

    It will be incredibly difficult….but we have to root for the Badgers on Saturday. Ugh, I already feel like I need a shower.

    You are right though, if Michigan wins in Madison on Saturday, it’s difficult to see where two losses would come for them.

  • EricN

    I think HMP subbing in at 12:55 mark is a common strategy. Zeller sits with 55 seconds of play clock before under-12 timeout. That’s 2 minutes long so you are giving your best player approx. 3 minutes of rest and sub him back in after the timeout.
    VO’s right-to-left, behind the back dribble causes him to come to a complete stop negating his greatest skill – speed. I have noticed it many times in his career. That move was scouted and caused the turnover that set up the final play.

  • WhatsUpKnight

    as much as i want to, i’m not going to dissect the game too much. we knew they weren’t going to escape conference play without some drama, without some unexpected losses. that’s just how it goes, though still tough to take.

    iu was like jeckyll and hyde last night. made some amazing plays, controlled the vast majority of the game, looked like the best team in the country. but then also made some horrible fouls and turnovers that one can only scratch one’s head at. if it were ever appropriate to say they gave one away, now’s the time.

    now we’ve got a little extra drama surrounding the game this weekend, eh? but maybe also a little extra motivation? on a positive note, they played their best games of the season after the wisconsin loss.

  • Nwi Hoosier

    The play that stands out to me was around the 2:30 mark in the 2nd half Hulls passes up a wide open 3 to take a horrible one handed shot. I do not understand why one the best 3 pt shooters in the country keeps passing up open 3s to drive into the lane. Take the shot and make it were up and the game is over. Instead Richardson drains another 3 and it is a 2 pt game.

  • unclekerfuffle

    Joe;

    You are SO right in stating how “badly we needed this game.” Prior to this game we controlled our own destiny in regards to the Big Ten championship. Now, even if we play at the level we had to play at prior to this game for the remainder of the season, we are going to need help from someone other than MU, MSU or OSU to get a piece of the title.

    I’m not sure I could care less about the national ranking but potentially shooting ourselves in the foot in the Big Ten race is what drives me up the wall. I’m not ready to jump of a cliff or anything but we are not in the driver’s seat any longer if every other team in the league wins and loses the games that they are supposed to win and lose.

  • chiswede

    What a stupid loss. I’m so pissed I don’t even have anything else to say. Let’s just act like this never happened and look ahead to OSU.

  • chiswede

    What a stupid loss. I’m so pissed I don’t even have anything else to say. Let’s just act like this never happened and look ahead to OSU.

  • dtfreed

    When a lead is slipping away and the other team is hitting everything they throw up, a time out probably helps CTC. Especially the last possession, nothing was called just go down and shoot? This one goes on CTC, poor game management. Sure he didn’t miss shots, turn it over, etc but with bad play more coaching is needed not less.

  • I know I’m going to get slammed for this, but all three of our losses are to teams that have far less talent, but great coaching. What does that say about CTC? Discuss…

  • b_side

    Agreed. Said the same in The Minute After. Thought we lost our composure from that point on (Will followed up with the rushed 3 shortly after).

    People on here want to blame Crean and Watford for yesterday’s loss. Give me a break. There were plenty of bone-headed decisions throughout the game by our core 6 (starters plus Will) and we’ve barely touched on Zeller’s brain fart at the end.

    This was a total team loss.

  • Joe B

    I understand your point on getting Zeller some rest, but I’m not sure HP was the best substitution. Like alex said in the post, totally killed the momentum we had. And I guess I was speaking more to Crean’s subs in the first half, went 10 deep. I love the guy, and no disrespect, but at this point what is Creek brining to the floor that we need him out there?

  • iu1

    to many turn overs. period

  • sloan screen #45

    Alot of good points here. I like the idea of Jordy coming off the bench for some instant offense if CTC runs some plays for him. Start Remy and let him play to get his groove back again. He is a better stronger defender also. You are right CWat has too much of a role for all his inconsistent play. Give Jeremy a bigger role. None of this will happen,though. CTC loves his seniors.

  • CreamandCrimson

    Would you consider John Beilein a good coach? How about Matt Painter? Or Bill Carmody? Or John Thompson III? Or Tom Izzo? If so, Tom Crean must have outcoached those guys because we won. (What I’m getting at is that it’s not as simple as, we have more talent and lost….must be poor coaching).

    Is Bill Self a worse coach than Trent Johnson? Because Kansas has a lot more talent than TCU and the Jayhawks had 6 points on the board 12 minutes into the game.

    Also, how is John Groce considered a “great coach” at this point? They are 3-7 in the conference. I’m not absolving Tom Crean of all blame. I think he played a part in each of our losses and each of our wins. So, what does our record say about Tom Crean? I think it says he is a great recruiter, a great player developer, a coach that plays a part in a lot of wins and yes, a coach that plays a part in a few losses as well. No one head-to-head win or loss should bring a conclusion about a coach.

  • iuoiu

    Too many guys taking plays off? Could you give us real and relevant examples of this – and not just one or two because your assertion is that we have a team of NBA slackers who don’t decide to start playing until 5 min left in the game. I find this hard to believe considering our defensive performance this year.

    Too many guys think they’re the #1 option? What, because we actually pass the ball until one of our guys gets a good look (whoever it may be) we have a problem? No, our problem is a high-class one because we have 6 guys who can make a play when they need to. We don’t rely on just one or two guys and that makes this team VERY hard to shut down.

    And as for our lacking elite decision making on the sideline were you around to say that after the Michigan game or the other countless wins this year? I doubt it. We knew going into this that winning on the road in the B10 would be tough, and surprise it is.

  • Am I the only one here who places the majority of the blame for the 2nd half shenanigans on Christian Watford? 6 TOs, hoisting 3s early in the clock, I think he was the one who wasted the most possessions on offense BY A MILE. In a situation like last night, i would have liked to see Elston put in to send a message that we just need sound basketball – not a hero.

  • NC Hoosier

    Bash me if you will, but last night’s loss was awful and proved to me we have very little chance of making the Final Four, winning the conference regular season or winning the conference tournament. We had this game in hand and completely melted down. Hulls passed up an open 3 for that prayer of a running one handed shot. Sheehey took too many quick 3s. Watford turned the ball over constantly. Zeller stood there like a boy on the wall at the 8th grade dance on the final play. Two things I hope to see very little of the rest of the year: 1. Remy Able in the game 2. That zone. I don’t know that we are capable of beating good teams away from home. Unless they give us 6 home games in the Big Dance, we will be exiting stage left sooner rather than later. Especially if we play a tough, athletic team.

  • AtariHero

    I still don’t get Crean’s substitution patterns. It seems like every time a Hoosier makes a great shot, Crean benches him. Hulls made 2 great 3 pointers and was promptly sent to the bench – just as he seemed to be catching fire. Crean has done the same thing to Watford. I’d love to know the strategy here.

  • HoosierTrav

    Hollowell benching is case in point.

  • AtariHero

    How is that at all logical? If Watford plays well we win, and if he plays poorly we might get beat, so your conclusion is not to play him? Because Hollowell is going to carry the team?

  • HostileHoosier

    YES YES and YES this 1 play has me baffled aswell. He was 3 for 3 from 3 and passes this WIDE open shot for a left handed rainbow from 10 foot. I just could not figure this play out. I had told my son ealier in the game that Hulls wasnt looking for his shot and this play made me crazy.

  • BornBredAndHoosierFed

    Watford, the one with the most experience on the court, had 6 turnovers. That in and of itself is unacceptable. I agree, we need shake things up a bit and Cwat might be a GREAT place to start.

  • BornBredAndHoosierFed

    Watford, the one with the most experience on the court, had 6 turnovers. That in and of itself is unacceptable. I agree, we need shake things up a bit and Cwat might be a GREAT place to start.

  • calbert40

    I don’t disagree with any of Alex’s points, but the one I think is most glaring is the Turnovers. We dominated every aspect of that game last night, but our carelessness with the ball allowed them to stay around long enough to make a late surge and win.

    Groce evidently sat some of his players for lack of defensive intensity, and it worked to some extent. I’d like to see CTC sit guys who are careless with the ball. I don’t want to dump on CWat, but 6 TOs in one game! He should find himself sitting next to HMP instead of on the floor to start in Columbus. Six! From a guy who doesn’t handle the ball that often!! Amazing stat.

  • b_side

    It’s all on Crean? Ha. First you blame him for not having Zeller in against Butler. Now Zeller is in at the last play, but we still lose. Players have to execute and blame for the loss goes on their shoulders too.

  • HostileHoosier

    IMO Cody needs to start stepping to the entry passes and stop waiting on the ball to get to him. If you go back and look at this game I am pretty sure you will see lot of our turnovers came from entry passes to Cody that never made it to him. I dont think the problem was so much in the fact that we didnt get the ball to Cody as it was trying to much to get it to him with bad passes. We was trying to force the ball to him to much and overlooking other options.

  • ldiu

    I am beginning to think we have wasted scholarships on Perea and Jurkin. They cannot catch the ball and the last time I checked that was really important to becoming good basketball players. I have yet to see one positive from Perea.

  • calbert40

    You know, that actually brings up a good point. I know that many of us played HS basketball, so we can all identify with this:

    At the end of the game, one or all of the coaches is always reminding you to not foul, we have no TOs left, stay on Player X, NO LAYUPS, Keep Player Y in front of you, etc.

    That all is going on while the HC is telling you what play to run. I GUARANTEE that CTC or at least one of the other coaches was telling them some of these things. They just didn’t execute at the end.

  • calbert40

    Hollowell is playing very well right now, but I don’t believe his overall play has warranted end game minutes yet. CWat had a really rough night, but he is used to those end game situations. I don’t have any issue with Hollowell being on the bench in the final 4 minutes.

    But if he continues to play as he has, he is going to earn those minutes!

  • IULaw79

    Ok…so do you give credit for CTC’s coaching in our 20 wins? If you are going to blame his coaching for every loss, you have to give him credit for every win. It can’t be “our players win our games” and “our coach loses our games”. It’s a combination of both. CTC did not dribble the ball off Vic’s leg or fail to cover the lane on that final play.

  • calbert40

    Exactly! Truth be told, we probably have as much talent as any team in the country, so ANY loss is probably to a team that is less talented. Did some people expect them to go undefeated?

  • JerryMaguire

    As many people have pointed out the officiating last night was poor. I realized after watching the game a second time how poor it really was and specifically how nearly every time a questionable call/no call was made it was the same referee – John Gaffney.

    Gaffney is the same referee in the Iowa game who called a blocking call on Jordy while he was laying on the ground and the phantom 3pt foul flop by Marble on VO. He is a poor official that is heavily influenced by the crowd and a yelling coach.

    I watched the game again this morning(very tough to do – my son said “why do you do this to yourself?”) just to chart Gaffney’s calls(I didn’t look at the other two referees because they seemed to be balanced in their calls all night). I think you will find this interesting and if I had Ryan’s skill at breaking down film I would show you the calls/no calls to make the point even more effectively.

    Gaffney 1st half:

    1 foul called on Illinois at 13:50 on a drive to basket by Yogi. No other fouls called on IL.

    ? calls or no calls

    1.10:00 no call on VO drive

    2. 8:30 no call on YF drive

    3. 3:53 no call on WS shot

    4. 3:30 no call on WS shot

    5. 1:45 foul called on Cody

    Gaffney 2nd half:

    2 fouls called on IL

    11:13 Hulls drive off steal

    7:47 dead ball foul called on McLaurin(never saw it)

    Questionable calls/nocalls:

    1. 19:30 CZ fast break no call

    2. 17:49 foul on CZ/ 3 pt play

    3. 16:26 CW charge

    4. 14:51 WS drive/shot no call

    5. 14:03 CZ no call on put back

    6. 12:09 HP no call on push off on rebound

    7. 11:36 HP no call on put back

    8. 10:03 CW tie up

    9. 9:04 YF no call on reach in

    10. 9:01 foul called on YF on the and 1 for Richardson

    11. 7:33 CZ no call & then foul called on Jeremy on reach

    12. 6:04 CW moving pick

    Groce goes crazy on Egwu 5th foul(call made by one of the other officials) and screams at Gaffney because guy who made the call goes to the other side of court. Gaffney takes the abuse and then you see him try to calm Groce down.

    13. 2:55 Paul dribbles off CZ leg(look at CZ reaction – never touched him)

    14. 2:25 CW no call on dunk attempt(compare the contact on this no call and the foul called on VO 2 minutes later)

    15. 1:48 ball out of bounds off CW(with enthusiasm he runs, points and calls Illini ball. “man the crowd loves me”)

    16. 0:37 touch foul on VO defending Paul shot

    If you go back and watch the game you will see that many of these calls were the right calls. However, when you look at Gaffney’s body of work last night it is real hard not to conclude he is a real poor official that was heavily biased to the home team.

    Gaffney calls 3 fouls on IL out of the 16 called or 18.8%. He calls 6 of the 15 fouls called on IU or 40%.

    He was awful. I would like to petition Ryan to do his next video breakdown on Gaffney. He doesn’t need to be an official in this league.

  • JerryMaguire

    As many people have pointed out the officiating last night was poor. I realized after watching the game a second time how poor it really was and specifically how nearly every time a questionable call/no call was made it was the same referee – John Gaffney.

    Gaffney is the same referee in the Iowa game who called a blocking call on Jordy while he was laying on the ground and the phantom 3pt foul flop by Marble on VO. He is a poor official that is heavily influenced by the crowd and a yelling coach.

    I watched the game again this morning(very tough to do – my son said “why do you do this to yourself?”) just to chart Gaffney’s calls(I didn’t look at the other two referees because they seemed to be balanced in their calls all night). I think you will find this interesting and if I had Ryan’s skill at breaking down film I would show you the calls/no calls to make the point even more effectively.

    Gaffney 1st half:

    1 foul called on Illinois at 13:50 on a drive to basket by Yogi. No other fouls called on IL.

    ? calls or no calls

    1.10:00 no call on VO drive

    2. 8:30 no call on YF drive

    3. 3:53 no call on WS shot

    4. 3:30 no call on WS shot

    5. 1:45 foul called on Cody

    Gaffney 2nd half:

    2 fouls called on IL

    11:13 Hulls drive off steal

    7:47 dead ball foul called on McLaurin(never saw it)

    Questionable calls/nocalls:

    1. 19:30 CZ fast break no call

    2. 17:49 foul on CZ/ 3 pt play

    3. 16:26 CW charge

    4. 14:51 WS drive/shot no call

    5. 14:03 CZ no call on put back

    6. 12:09 HP no call on push off on rebound

    7. 11:36 HP no call on put back

    8. 10:03 CW tie up

    9. 9:04 YF no call on reach in

    10. 9:01 foul called on YF on the and 1 for Richardson

    11. 7:33 CZ no call & then foul called on Jeremy on reach

    12. 6:04 CW moving pick

    Groce goes crazy on Egwu 5th foul(call made by one of the other officials) and screams at Gaffney because guy who made the call goes to the other side of court. Gaffney takes the abuse and then you see him try to calm Groce down.

    13. 2:55 Paul dribbles off CZ leg(look at CZ reaction – never touched him)

    14. 2:25 CW no call on dunk attempt(compare the contact on this no call and the foul called on VO 2 minutes later)

    15. 1:48 ball out of bounds off CW(with enthusiasm he runs, points and calls Illini ball. “man the crowd loves me”)

    16. 0:37 touch foul on VO defending Paul shot

    If you go back and watch the game you will see that many of these calls were the right calls. However, when you look at Gaffney’s body of work last night it is real hard not to conclude he is a real poor official that was heavily biased to the home team.

    Gaffney calls 3 fouls on IL out of the 16 called or 18.8%. He calls 6 of the 15 fouls called on IU or 40%.

    He was awful. I would like to petition Ryan to do his next video breakdown on Gaffney. He doesn’t need to be an official in this league.

  • calbert40

    I think you finally identified the answer to our “problems!” It is all that gum chewing, hand clapping, and most egregious of all…SMILING!!! YES!!!!!

    If he’d stop chewing gum, clapping his hands and begin scowling like Bo Ryan, this team would be unstoppable!!

  • Benhyoung14

    I don’t think the ball movement was working as well as it was during the Michigan game. All IU has to do is reverse the ball. Get a couple of Illinois defenders between Zeller and the ball, and then reverse it again. CTC has talked about this. This part is execution and that is all.

  • IULaw79

    I almost didnt want to log on today as I knew it would be the same old “sky is falling”, “CTC is a horrible coach”, “Watford needs to sit the bench” just like after the Wisconsin game and Butler game. Looking on twitter and reading comments here and elsewhere, it’s ridiculous how people think “we have no chance at a Final Four, or a B1G title, etc”. We still are tied for the conference lead and are still a projected 1 seed. Even if we don’t win the conference or get a 1 seed, we most certainly will be a 2 seed or a 3 seed at worst. Plenty of teams have won NCAA titles or made the Final Four after playing piss poor games (and ones a hell of a lot worse than any of our losses I should say) and plenty of teams have won titles or made final fours when not a #1 seed. I mean UCONN won a national title the year they finished NINTH in their conference.

  • gerald

    this is a really solid, positive post. well done

  • gerald

    this is a really solid, positive post. well done

  • Sherronhasaheadache

    HMP should have never got off the bench period. he just isnt ready to play at this level. 27 seconds to go we have 2 timeouts, call 1 and set something up to win it. i’m callin it now.12-6 in the BIG. Losses at msu,mich,ohio st. & minny. at least this league will get us ready or the dance. really dissapointed today!

  • calbert40

    See, I just don’t understand that line of thinking. If you read Alex’s column, we won in just about every statistical category except turnovers. It is pretty obvious that CTC and staff aren’t advising the team to turn the ball over. The players are doing that on their own.

    If we beat Illinois in every statistical category EXCEPT for TOs, and we know that no coaching staff in America advises teams to turn the ball over, how is it the coaching staff’s fault that we lost the game? It wasn’t bad play, as many are suggesting, because we beat them in every statistical category.

    The reason we lost was poor execution / turnovers. By definition, that is on the players.