Indiana at the top of the list for Moses Morgan

  • 05/06/2009 7:00 am in

If 2010 Las Vegas guard Moses Morgan needs an opinion on the basketball program in Bloomington, he need not go far for advice. Morgan’s father, Winston, played for Bob Knight and the Hoosiers in the 80’s after a prep career at Anderson Madison-Heights.

And now the younger Morgan, the No. 68 player in the 2010 class according to Rivals.com, has the Hoosiers front and center in his recruitment.

“Right now, Indiana is the school that’s on top of my list,” Morgan told Inside the Hall. “It sounds like the best fit for me right now that I could see myself playing in.”

Despite the fact that his father played for the Hoosiers, Morgan hasn’t followed the program closely until recently.

“I haven’t really been following Indiana, but since they’ve started to recruit me, I’m following up on them and seeing what they’re about since Coach Crean has been there,” Morgan said. “My Dad always tells me I need to go to a school that’s good academically. He tells me a lot about Indiana’s academics. He also said the campus is nice.”

Along with Indiana, Morgan is being pursued by Arizona, Michigan, Marquette, Oklahoma and UNLV. Despite speculation that a decision could be on the horizon, Morgan is planning to take his time and some visits over the summer.

“I’ve been saying I’d make a decision at the end of this school year, but right now it’s changed,” Morgan said. “I don’t even know when I’m going to make a decision. So I’m just being patient right now. We’re just going to wait and see what develops. My Dad and I want to take some unofficials to some of the schools.”

Among the schools expected to get unofficial visits: IU, Arizona, Michigan and Marquette.

After a junior campaign that saw his Palo Verde team finish 21-4 and runner-up for the state championship, Morgan is looking to use the summer to improve two key aspects of his game.

“Right now, I need to get physically stronger and work on my ball handling,” Morgan said. “My dad and I work on my ball handling everyday. Some days we don’t shoot, we just ball handle. And then we go work on my strength.”

(Photo credit: Rivals.com)

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  • BGleas

    I don't mean to suggest that every class should be all 5 stars, but I do feel like Indiana, with CTC, should strive to get to a point where we are equal with UNC, Duke, UCLA and Kansas, where we compete for recruits and Final Fours consistently.

    Why can't we mirror those programs? Our history does.

    There's no reason, especially with the talent that routinely comes out of IU's home state, that we can't have recruiting classes that are routinely filled with 5 and 4 star players, with 3 star players sprinkled in, not the other way around.

    As I've said multiple times, the key is getting the “right” highly rated players. Again, I'm not suggesting Crean should be at this level today, but it should be the long-term goal, and I believe it is, based on the players Crean is targeting.

    I guess it's just a difference of opinion at this point.

  • plane1972

    'Why can't we mirror those programs? Our history does.”

    We already mirror those programs. Each one of those programs fell on unsuccessful times at one time or another. We are in our down time, but quickly on the rise in my opinion. Some of us are just more patient than others. There are not many major programs that got decimated like we did. It truly is a rebuilding project from the ground up. It is better to surround yourself with quality people in a situation like that, and I commend CTC for seeing the big picture and not taking a shortcut that could further jeopardize the program and, most certainly, his job.

  • plane1972

    'Why can't we mirror those programs? Our history does.”

    We already mirror those programs. Each one of those programs fell on unsuccessful times at one time or another. We are in our down time, but quickly on the rise in my opinion. Some of us are just more patient than others. There are not many major programs that got decimated like we did. It truly is a rebuilding project from the ground up. It is better to surround yourself with quality people in a situation like that, and I commend CTC for seeing the big picture and not taking a shortcut that could further jeopardize the program and, most certainly, his job.

  • plane1972

    'Why can't we mirror those programs? Our history does.”

    We already mirror those programs. Each one of those programs fell on unsuccessful times at one time or another. We are in our down time, but quickly on the rise in my opinion. Some of us are just more patient than others. There are not many major programs that got decimated like we did. It truly is a rebuilding project from the ground up. It is better to surround yourself with quality people in a situation like that, and I commend CTC for seeing the big picture and not taking a shortcut that could further jeopardize the program and, most certainly, his job.

  • plane1972

    'Why can't we mirror those programs? Our history does.”

    We already mirror those programs. Each one of those programs fell on unsuccessful times at one time or another. We are in our down time, but quickly on the rise in my opinion. Some of us are just more patient than others. There are not many major programs that got decimated like we did. It truly is a rebuilding project from the ground up. It is better to surround yourself with quality people in a situation like that, and I commend CTC for seeing the big picture and not taking a shortcut that could further jeopardize the program and, most certainly, his job.

  • plane1972

    'Why can't we mirror those programs? Our history does.”

    We already mirror those programs. Each one of those programs fell on unsuccessful times at one time or another. We are in our down time, but quickly on the rise in my opinion. Some of us are just more patient than others. There are not many major programs that got decimated like we did. It truly is a rebuilding project from the ground up. It is better to surround yourself with quality people in a situation like that, and I commend CTC for seeing the big picture and not taking a shortcut that could further jeopardize the program and, most certainly, his job.

  • plane1972

    'Why can't we mirror those programs? Our history does.”

    We already mirror those programs. Each one of those programs fell on unsuccessful times at one time or another. We are in our down time, but quickly on the rise in my opinion. Some of us are just more patient than others. There are not many major programs that got decimated like we did. It truly is a rebuilding project from the ground up. It is better to surround yourself with quality people in a situation like that, and I commend CTC for seeing the big picture and not taking a shortcut that could further jeopardize the program and, most certainly, his job.

  • plane1972

    'Why can't we mirror those programs? Our history does.”

    We already mirror those programs. Each one of those programs fell on unsuccessful times at one time or another. We are in our down time, but quickly on the rise in my opinion. Some of us are just more patient than others. There are not many major programs that got decimated like we did. It truly is a rebuilding project from the ground up. It is better to surround yourself with quality people in a situation like that, and I commend CTC for seeing the big picture and not taking a shortcut that could further jeopardize the program and, most certainly, his job.

  • BGleas

    I don't know how many times I have to say this…

    I'm not talking about this year or next year, I'm talking about the long-term strategy.

    I fully understand the situation IU and CTC are in. My position is not an anti-CTC position, I think Crean is doing a great job.

    The discussion we've been having is the difference between the long-term strategy fans would like IU to take.

  • BGleas

    I don't know how many times I have to say this…

    I'm not talking about this year or next year, I'm talking about the long-term strategy.

    I fully understand the situation IU and CTC are in. My position is not an anti-CTC position, I think Crean is doing a great job.

    The discussion we've been having is the difference between the long-term strategy fans would like IU to take.

  • BGleas

    I don't know how many times I have to say this…

    I'm not talking about this year or next year, I'm talking about the long-term strategy.

    I fully understand the situation IU and CTC are in. My position is not an anti-CTC position, I think Crean is doing a great job.

    The discussion we've been having is the difference between the long-term strategy fans would like IU to take.

  • BGleas

    I don't know how many times I have to say this…

    I'm not talking about this year or next year, I'm talking about the long-term strategy.

    I fully understand the situation IU and CTC are in. My position is not an anti-CTC position, I think Crean is doing a great job.

    The discussion we've been having is the difference between the long-term strategy fans would like IU to take.

  • BGleas

    I don't know how many times I have to say this…

    I'm not talking about this year or next year, I'm talking about the long-term strategy.

    I fully understand the situation IU and CTC are in. My position is not an anti-CTC position, I think Crean is doing a great job.

    The discussion we've been having is the difference between the long-term strategy fans would like IU to take.

  • BGleas

    I don't know how many times I have to say this…

    I'm not talking about this year or next year, I'm talking about the long-term strategy.

    I fully understand the situation IU and CTC are in. My position is not an anti-CTC position, I think Crean is doing a great job.

    The discussion we've been having is the difference between the long-term strategy fans would like IU to take.

  • BGleas

    I don't know how many times I have to say this…

    I'm not talking about this year or next year, I'm talking about the long-term strategy.

    I fully understand the situation IU and CTC are in. My position is not an anti-CTC position, I think Crean is doing a great job.

    The discussion we've been having is the difference between the long-term strategy fans would like IU to take.

  • plane1972

    I think we fundamentially agree, but I don't see a whole lot of “long-term” perspective in this discussion. It seems like a lot of people are hell-bent on recruiting “elite” 4 and 5-star talent with little concern for “glue guys” and good students. The right combination of all those talents are what I feel make a solid team and program.

    However, I did agree with your perspective that Coach Knight won with talent and not just a rag-tag cadre of players. They learned to understand their roles (or transferred out), but they were highly-regarded recruits coming in. Knight was just good at keeping in-state talent in-state with the occasional recruiting defeat to Purdue (Troy Lewis), Kentucky (Kyle Macy), Michigan State (Scott Skiles), Iowa (Jeff Moe), North Carolina (Eric Montross and Rick Fox) and others.

  • plane1972

    I think we fundamentially agree, but I don't see a whole lot of “long-term” perspective in this discussion. It seems like a lot of people are hell-bent on recruiting “elite” 4 and 5-star talent with little concern for “glue guys” and good students. The right combination of all those talents are what I feel make a solid team and program.

    However, I did agree with your perspective that Coach Knight won with talent and not just a rag-tag cadre of players. They learned to understand their roles (or transferred out), but they were highly-regarded recruits coming in. Knight was just good at keeping in-state talent in-state with the occasional recruiting defeat to Purdue (Troy Lewis), Kentucky (Kyle Macy), Michigan State (Scott Skiles), Iowa (Jeff Moe), North Carolina (Eric Montross and Rick Fox) and others.

  • plane1972

    I think we fundamentially agree, but I don't see a whole lot of “long-term” perspective in this discussion. It seems like a lot of people are hell-bent on recruiting “elite” 4 and 5-star talent with little concern for “glue guys” and good students. The right combination of all those talents are what I feel make a solid team and program.

    However, I did agree with your perspective that Coach Knight won with talent and not just a rag-tag cadre of players. They learned to understand their roles (or transferred out), but they were highly-regarded recruits coming in. Knight was just good at keeping in-state talent in-state with the occasional recruiting defeat to Purdue (Troy Lewis), Kentucky (Kyle Macy), Michigan State (Scott Skiles), Iowa (Jeff Moe), North Carolina (Eric Montross and Rick Fox) and others.

  • plane1972

    I think we fundamentially agree, but I don't see a whole lot of “long-term” perspective in this discussion. It seems like a lot of people are hell-bent on recruiting “elite” 4 and 5-star talent with little concern for “glue guys” and good students. The right combination of all those talents are what I feel make a solid team and program.

    However, I did agree with your perspective that Coach Knight won with talent and not just a rag-tag cadre of players. They learned to understand their roles (or transferred out), but they were highly-regarded recruits coming in. Knight was just good at keeping in-state talent in-state with the occasional recruiting defeat to Purdue (Troy Lewis), Kentucky (Kyle Macy), Michigan State (Scott Skiles), Iowa (Jeff Moe), North Carolina (Eric Montross and Rick Fox) and others.

  • plane1972

    I think we fundamentially agree, but I don't see a whole lot of “long-term” perspective in this discussion. It seems like a lot of people are hell-bent on recruiting “elite” 4 and 5-star talent with little concern for “glue guys” and good students. The right combination of all those talents are what I feel make a solid team and program.

    However, I did agree with your perspective that Coach Knight won with talent and not just a rag-tag cadre of players. They learned to understand their roles (or transferred out), but they were highly-regarded recruits coming in. Knight was just good at keeping in-state talent in-state with the occasional recruiting defeat to Purdue (Troy Lewis), Kentucky (Kyle Macy), Michigan State (Scott Skiles), Iowa (Jeff Moe), North Carolina (Eric Montross and Rick Fox) and others.

  • plane1972

    I think we fundamentially agree, but I don't see a whole lot of “long-term” perspective in this discussion. It seems like a lot of people are hell-bent on recruiting “elite” 4 and 5-star talent with little concern for “glue guys” and good students. The right combination of all those talents are what I feel make a solid team and program.

    However, I did agree with your perspective that Coach Knight won with talent and not just a rag-tag cadre of players. They learned to understand their roles (or transferred out), but they were highly-regarded recruits coming in. Knight was just good at keeping in-state talent in-state with the occasional recruiting defeat to Purdue (Troy Lewis), Kentucky (Kyle Macy), Michigan State (Scott Skiles), Iowa (Jeff Moe), North Carolina (Eric Montross and Rick Fox) and others.

  • plane1972

    I think we fundamentially agree, but I don't see a whole lot of “long-term” perspective in this discussion. It seems like a lot of people are hell-bent on recruiting “elite” 4 and 5-star talent with little concern for “glue guys” and good students. The right combination of all those talents are what I feel make a solid team and program.

    However, I did agree with your perspective that Coach Knight won with talent and not just a rag-tag cadre of players. They learned to understand their roles (or transferred out), but they were highly-regarded recruits coming in. Knight was just good at keeping in-state talent in-state with the occasional recruiting defeat to Purdue (Troy Lewis), Kentucky (Kyle Macy), Michigan State (Scott Skiles), Iowa (Jeff Moe), North Carolina (Eric Montross and Rick Fox) and others.

  • BGleas

    Everything I've been discussing is long-term strategy. I'm not discussing this year or next years class.

    I guess one of my points is why do so many IU fans seems to think that being a good student and having character are mutually exclusive from having basketball talent and being a 5 or 4 star player?

    Go to Rivals and look at UNC's classes from the last 6 or 7 years. Almost every class is compiled of 5 and 4 star players with maybe one 3 star sprinkled in.

    UNC has been to 3 Final Fours and won two championships in that time, so obviously some of those high ranked recruits became role players and glue guys. Same at Kansas, Duke and UCLA.

    Why wouldn't we want IU to be like that? To my knowledge those programs haven't had academic issues and for the most part they haven't had character issues. They've had a handful of top recruits leave after one year, but they've had a large amount stay 3 years. I don't see the problem.

    Thanks for the backup on the Knight debate! I'm not discrediting his coaching, he was great, but he had great players too.

  • BGleas

    Everything I've been discussing is long-term strategy. I'm not discussing this year or next years class.

    I guess one of my points is why do so many IU fans seems to think that being a good student and having character are mutually exclusive from having basketball talent and being a 5 or 4 star player?

    Go to Rivals and look at UNC's classes from the last 6 or 7 years. Almost every class is compiled of 5 and 4 star players with maybe one 3 star sprinkled in.

    UNC has been to 3 Final Fours and won two championships in that time, so obviously some of those high ranked recruits became role players and glue guys. Same at Kansas, Duke and UCLA.

    Why wouldn't we want IU to be like that? To my knowledge those programs haven't had academic issues and for the most part they haven't had character issues. They've had a handful of top recruits leave after one year, but they've had a large amount stay 3 years. I don't see the problem.

    Thanks for the backup on the Knight debate! I'm not discrediting his coaching, he was great, but he had great players too.

  • BGleas

    Everything I've been discussing is long-term strategy. I'm not discussing this year or next years class.

    I guess one of my points is why do so many IU fans seems to think that being a good student and having character are mutually exclusive from having basketball talent and being a 5 or 4 star player?

    Go to Rivals and look at UNC's classes from the last 6 or 7 years. Almost every class is compiled of 5 and 4 star players with maybe one 3 star sprinkled in.

    UNC has been to 3 Final Fours and won two championships in that time, so obviously some of those high ranked recruits became role players and glue guys. Same at Kansas, Duke and UCLA.

    Why wouldn't we want IU to be like that? To my knowledge those programs haven't had academic issues and for the most part they haven't had character issues. They've had a handful of top recruits leave after one year, but they've had a large amount stay 3 years. I don't see the problem.

    Thanks for the backup on the Knight debate! I'm not discrediting his coaching, he was great, but he had great players too.

  • BGleas

    Everything I've been discussing is long-term strategy. I'm not discussing this year or next years class.

    I guess one of my points is why do so many IU fans seems to think that being a good student and having character are mutually exclusive from having basketball talent and being a 5 or 4 star player?

    Go to Rivals and look at UNC's classes from the last 6 or 7 years. Almost every class is compiled of 5 and 4 star players with maybe one 3 star sprinkled in.

    UNC has been to 3 Final Fours and won two championships in that time, so obviously some of those high ranked recruits became role players and glue guys. Same at Kansas, Duke and UCLA.

    Why wouldn't we want IU to be like that? To my knowledge those programs haven't had academic issues and for the most part they haven't had character issues. They've had a handful of top recruits leave after one year, but they've had a large amount stay 3 years. I don't see the problem.

    Thanks for the backup on the Knight debate! I'm not discrediting his coaching, he was great, but he had great players too.

  • BGleas

    Everything I've been discussing is long-term strategy. I'm not discussing this year or next years class.

    I guess one of my points is why do so many IU fans seems to think that being a good student and having character are mutually exclusive from having basketball talent and being a 5 or 4 star player?

    Go to Rivals and look at UNC's classes from the last 6 or 7 years. Almost every class is compiled of 5 and 4 star players with maybe one 3 star sprinkled in.

    UNC has been to 3 Final Fours and won two championships in that time, so obviously some of those high ranked recruits became role players and glue guys. Same at Kansas, Duke and UCLA.

    Why wouldn't we want IU to be like that? To my knowledge those programs haven't had academic issues and for the most part they haven't had character issues. They've had a handful of top recruits leave after one year, but they've had a large amount stay 3 years. I don't see the problem.

    Thanks for the backup on the Knight debate! I'm not discrediting his coaching, he was great, but he had great players too.

  • BGleas

    Everything I've been discussing is long-term strategy. I'm not discussing this year or next years class.

    I guess one of my points is why do so many IU fans seems to think that being a good student and having character are mutually exclusive from having basketball talent and being a 5 or 4 star player?

    Go to Rivals and look at UNC's classes from the last 6 or 7 years. Almost every class is compiled of 5 and 4 star players with maybe one 3 star sprinkled in.

    UNC has been to 3 Final Fours and won two championships in that time, so obviously some of those high ranked recruits became role players and glue guys. Same at Kansas, Duke and UCLA.

    Why wouldn't we want IU to be like that? To my knowledge those programs haven't had academic issues and for the most part they haven't had character issues. They've had a handful of top recruits leave after one year, but they've had a large amount stay 3 years. I don't see the problem.

    Thanks for the backup on the Knight debate! I'm not discrediting his coaching, he was great, but he had great players too.

  • BGleas

    Everything I've been discussing is long-term strategy. I'm not discussing this year or next years class.

    I guess one of my points is why do so many IU fans seems to think that being a good student and having character are mutually exclusive from having basketball talent and being a 5 or 4 star player?

    Go to Rivals and look at UNC's classes from the last 6 or 7 years. Almost every class is compiled of 5 and 4 star players with maybe one 3 star sprinkled in.

    UNC has been to 3 Final Fours and won two championships in that time, so obviously some of those high ranked recruits became role players and glue guys. Same at Kansas, Duke and UCLA.

    Why wouldn't we want IU to be like that? To my knowledge those programs haven't had academic issues and for the most part they haven't had character issues. They've had a handful of top recruits leave after one year, but they've had a large amount stay 3 years. I don't see the problem.

    Thanks for the backup on the Knight debate! I'm not discrediting his coaching, he was great, but he had great players too.

  • CraiginOR

    What I said that caused BGleas to throw a..weee, you know, was “IU fans don't have “disdain for 5 star recruits” we just admire the the coaches who put together a team with a variety of players.” IU can point proudly to players like Joe Hillman, Eric Suhr, Tom Coverdale, Todd Leary and a lot more (Dakich etc ) of the “talented overachievers” who have been cheered in Assembly Hall . IU teams have always had a great personality and if some of our scruffy physically challenged kids were gifted with athletic bodies we would have won a couple of more championships. GO IU!

  • CraiginOR

    What I said that caused BGleas to throw a..weee, you know, was “IU fans don't have “disdain for 5 star recruits” we just admire the the coaches who put together a team with a variety of players.” IU can point proudly to players like Joe Hillman, Eric Suhr, Tom Coverdale, Todd Leary and a lot more (Dakich etc ) of the “talented overachievers” who have been cheered in Assembly Hall . IU teams have always had a great personality and if some of our scruffy physically challenged kids were gifted with athletic bodies we would have won a couple of more championships. GO IU!

  • CraiginOR

    What I said that caused BGleas to throw a..weee, you know, was “IU fans don't have “disdain for 5 star recruits” we just admire the the coaches who put together a team with a variety of players.” IU can point proudly to players like Joe Hillman, Eric Suhr, Tom Coverdale, Todd Leary and a lot more (Dakich etc ) of the “talented overachievers” who have been cheered in Assembly Hall . IU teams have always had a great personality and if some of our scruffy physically challenged kids were gifted with athletic bodies we would have won a couple of more championships. GO IU!

  • CraiginOR

    What I said that caused BGleas to throw a..weee, you know, was “IU fans don't have “disdain for 5 star recruits” we just admire the the coaches who put together a team with a variety of players.” IU can point proudly to players like Joe Hillman, Eric Suhr, Tom Coverdale, Todd Leary and a lot more (Dakich etc ) of the “talented overachievers” who have been cheered in Assembly Hall . IU teams have always had a great personality and if some of our scruffy physically challenged kids were gifted with athletic bodies we would have won a couple of more championships. GO IU!

  • CraiginOR

    What I said that caused BGleas to throw a..weee, you know, was “IU fans don't have “disdain for 5 star recruits” we just admire the the coaches who put together a team with a variety of players.” IU can point proudly to players like Joe Hillman, Eric Suhr, Tom Coverdale, Todd Leary and a lot more (Dakich etc ) of the “talented overachievers” who have been cheered in Assembly Hall . IU teams have always had a great personality and if some of our scruffy physically challenged kids were gifted with athletic bodies we would have won a couple of more championships. GO IU!

  • CraiginOR

    What I said that caused BGleas to throw a..weee, you know, was “IU fans don't have “disdain for 5 star recruits” we just admire the the coaches who put together a team with a variety of players.” IU can point proudly to players like Joe Hillman, Eric Suhr, Tom Coverdale, Todd Leary and a lot more (Dakich etc ) of the “talented overachievers” who have been cheered in Assembly Hall . IU teams have always had a great personality and if some of our scruffy physically challenged kids were gifted with athletic bodies we would have won a couple of more championships. GO IU!

  • CraiginOR

    What I said that caused BGleas to throw a..weee, you know, was “IU fans don't have “disdain for 5 star recruits” we just admire the the coaches who put together a team with a variety of players.” IU can point proudly to players like Joe Hillman, Eric Suhr, Tom Coverdale, Todd Leary and a lot more (Dakich etc ) of the “talented overachievers” who have been cheered in Assembly Hall . IU teams have always had a great personality and if some of our scruffy physically challenged kids were gifted with athletic bodies we would have won a couple of more championships. GO IU!

  • BGleas

    Sorry pal, I thought we were having a pretty fun discussion, isn't that what sports is all about? Now I'm “throwing a weeee”, whatever that means? Just because I disagree with you?

    I guess you win then. Are we even totally sure Bob Knight actually coached Indiana to three titles? Maybe it was Mary's School for the Blind.

  • BGleas

    Sorry pal, I thought we were having a pretty fun discussion, isn't that what sports is all about? Now I'm “throwing a weeee”, whatever that means? Just because I disagree with you?

    I guess you win then. Are we even totally sure Bob Knight actually coached Indiana to three titles? Maybe it was Mary's School for the Blind.

  • BGleas

    Sorry pal, I thought we were having a pretty fun discussion, isn't that what sports is all about? Now I'm “throwing a weeee”, whatever that means? Just because I disagree with you?

    I guess you win then. Are we even totally sure Bob Knight actually coached Indiana to three titles? Maybe it was Mary's School for the Blind.

  • BGleas

    Sorry pal, I thought we were having a pretty fun discussion, isn't that what sports is all about? Now I'm “throwing a weeee”, whatever that means? Just because I disagree with you?

    I guess you win then. Are we even totally sure Bob Knight actually coached Indiana to three titles? Maybe it was Mary's School for the Blind.

  • BGleas

    Sorry pal, I thought we were having a pretty fun discussion, isn't that what sports is all about? Now I'm “throwing a weeee”, whatever that means? Just because I disagree with you?

    I guess you win then. Are we even totally sure Bob Knight actually coached Indiana to three titles? Maybe it was Mary's School for the Blind.

  • BGleas

    Sorry pal, I thought we were having a pretty fun discussion, isn't that what sports is all about? Now I'm “throwing a weeee”, whatever that means? Just because I disagree with you?

    I guess you win then. Are we even totally sure Bob Knight actually coached Indiana to three titles? Maybe it was Mary's School for the Blind.

  • BGleas

    Sorry pal, I thought we were having a pretty fun discussion, isn't that what sports is all about? Now I'm “throwing a weeee”, whatever that means? Just because I disagree with you?

    I guess you win then. Are we even totally sure Bob Knight actually coached Indiana to three titles? Maybe it was Mary's School for the Blind.

  • BGleas

    How about we discuss facts for once:

    '76 team:
    6 guys played in the NBA, including Kent Benson #1 overall pick and Scott May #2 overall pick. I'd say the top two picks in the draft is pretty loaded for a college team.

    '81 team:
    4 NBA players, 5 if you include Turner who would have played in the NBA. 3 first round picks. Including Isiah who is a hall of famer.

    '87:
    This is pretty much where your whole argument lies. Only 3 NBA players and zero first rounders.

    '92:
    5 NBA players, including 4 first round picks and the college player of the year. Bailey was also drafted but never played.

    Once again, I'm not saying Knight isn't and wasn't a great coach. But, his teams that won, for the most part, were extremely talented as well, not just a band of scrappy guys that he coached up. In basketball, the vast majority of the time, the right kind of talent wins.

  • BGleas

    How about we discuss facts for once:

    '76 team:
    6 guys played in the NBA, including Kent Benson #1 overall pick and Scott May #2 overall pick. I'd say the top two picks in the draft is pretty loaded for a college team.

    '81 team:
    4 NBA players, 5 if you include Turner who would have played in the NBA. 3 first round picks. Including Isiah who is a hall of famer.

    '87:
    This is pretty much where your whole argument lies. Only 3 NBA players and zero first rounders.

    '92:
    5 NBA players, including 4 first round picks and the college player of the year. Bailey was also drafted but never played.

    Once again, I'm not saying Knight isn't and wasn't a great coach. But, his teams that won, for the most part, were extremely talented as well, not just a band of scrappy guys that he coached up. In basketball, the vast majority of the time, the right kind of talent wins.

  • BGleas

    How about we discuss facts for once:

    '76 team:
    6 guys played in the NBA, including Kent Benson #1 overall pick and Scott May #2 overall pick. I'd say the top two picks in the draft is pretty loaded for a college team.

    '81 team:
    4 NBA players, 5 if you include Turner who would have played in the NBA. 3 first round picks. Including Isiah who is a hall of famer.

    '87:
    This is pretty much where your whole argument lies. Only 3 NBA players and zero first rounders.

    '92:
    5 NBA players, including 4 first round picks and the college player of the year. Bailey was also drafted but never played.

    Once again, I'm not saying Knight isn't and wasn't a great coach. But, his teams that won, for the most part, were extremely talented as well, not just a band of scrappy guys that he coached up. In basketball, the vast majority of the time, the right kind of talent wins.

  • BGleas

    How about we discuss facts for once:

    '76 team:
    6 guys played in the NBA, including Kent Benson #1 overall pick and Scott May #2 overall pick. I'd say the top two picks in the draft is pretty loaded for a college team.

    '81 team:
    4 NBA players, 5 if you include Turner who would have played in the NBA. 3 first round picks. Including Isiah who is a hall of famer.

    '87:
    This is pretty much where your whole argument lies. Only 3 NBA players and zero first rounders.

    '92:
    5 NBA players, including 4 first round picks and the college player of the year. Bailey was also drafted but never played.

    Once again, I'm not saying Knight isn't and wasn't a great coach. But, his teams that won, for the most part, were extremely talented as well, not just a band of scrappy guys that he coached up. In basketball, the vast majority of the time, the right kind of talent wins.

  • BGleas

    How about we discuss facts for once:

    '76 team:
    6 guys played in the NBA, including Kent Benson #1 overall pick and Scott May #2 overall pick. I'd say the top two picks in the draft is pretty loaded for a college team.

    '81 team:
    4 NBA players, 5 if you include Turner who would have played in the NBA. 3 first round picks. Including Isiah who is a hall of famer.

    '87:
    This is pretty much where your whole argument lies. Only 3 NBA players and zero first rounders.

    '92:
    5 NBA players, including 4 first round picks and the college player of the year. Bailey was also drafted but never played.

    Once again, I'm not saying Knight isn't and wasn't a great coach. But, his teams that won, for the most part, were extremely talented as well, not just a band of scrappy guys that he coached up. In basketball, the vast majority of the time, the right kind of talent wins.

  • BGleas

    How about we discuss facts for once:

    '76 team:
    6 guys played in the NBA, including Kent Benson #1 overall pick and Scott May #2 overall pick. I'd say the top two picks in the draft is pretty loaded for a college team.

    '81 team:
    4 NBA players, 5 if you include Turner who would have played in the NBA. 3 first round picks. Including Isiah who is a hall of famer.

    '87:
    This is pretty much where your whole argument lies. Only 3 NBA players and zero first rounders.

    '92:
    5 NBA players, including 4 first round picks and the college player of the year. Bailey was also drafted but never played.

    Once again, I'm not saying Knight isn't and wasn't a great coach. But, his teams that won, for the most part, were extremely talented as well, not just a band of scrappy guys that he coached up. In basketball, the vast majority of the time, the right kind of talent wins.

  • BGleas

    How about we discuss facts for once:

    '76 team:
    6 guys played in the NBA, including Kent Benson #1 overall pick and Scott May #2 overall pick. I'd say the top two picks in the draft is pretty loaded for a college team.

    '81 team:
    4 NBA players, 5 if you include Turner who would have played in the NBA. 3 first round picks. Including Isiah who is a hall of famer.

    '87:
    This is pretty much where your whole argument lies. Only 3 NBA players and zero first rounders.

    '92:
    5 NBA players, including 4 first round picks and the college player of the year. Bailey was also drafted but never played.

    Once again, I'm not saying Knight isn't and wasn't a great coach. But, his teams that won, for the most part, were extremely talented as well, not just a band of scrappy guys that he coached up. In basketball, the vast majority of the time, the right kind of talent wins.